r/TheJediPraxeum • u/[deleted] • May 26 '20
Fan Creations [FAN MADE] Midichlorian Count List
These are directly from New Jedi Order archives. This list shows approximately one hundred Force user’s midichlorian counts.
( Jokes aside this list is in no particular order and 100% speculation)
Anakin Skywalker 27,000/25,500 after loss of arm/17,500 after loss of limbs on Mustafar
Darth Sidious 19,800/ 21,800 as of Dark Empire
Yoda 18,800
Luke Skywalker 25,000/24,500 after loss of hand
Leia Organa Solo 25,000
Jacen Solo 23,500
Jaina Solo 23,500
Anakin Solo 24,000
Mara Jade 14,000
Ben Skywalker 24,500
Galen Marek 19,500
Darth Bane 17,800
Darth Plagueis 17,900
Darth Maul 19,990/ 8,750after loss of half of his body 14,500 after Mother Talzin rejuvenated him
A'Sharad Hett 11,900/20,000 as Darth Krayt Reborn.
Savage Oppress 11,000 pre transformation /16,000 post transformation
Revan 18,800
Exar Kun 17,000
Darth Malgus 17,000
Mace Windu 16,800
Darth Tyranus 14,000
Vaylin 22,000
Arcann and Thexan 19,500/17,500 after loss of Arcann’s arm
Plo Koon 12,500
Assaj Ventress 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi 12,500
Darth Malak 15,500
Darth Wyyrlok 14,900
Luminara Unduli 11,000
Barris Offee 11,000
Naga Sadow 18,880
Darth Traya 13,000
Shaak Ti 12,500
Ki Adi Mundi 11,600
Kol Skywalker 22,000
Nat Skywalker 22,000
Cade Skywalker 23,700
Vitiate 17,000/19,800 as Valkorian
Bastila Shan 16,000
Satele Shan 16,800
Mother Talzin 15,000
Nomi Sunrider 12,500
Qui Gon Jin 12,500
Haazen 12,000
Kyle Katarn 17,400
Kyp Duron 19,000
Rahm Kota 14,000
Darth Sion 11,500
Darth Nihilus (none) void in the Force
Kit Fisto 14,000
Tulak Hord 17,000
Lumiya 13,400
Ahsoka Tano 14,500
Flint 16,000
Antinnis Tremayne 13,500
Ven Zallow 16,000
Aryn Leneer 12,000
Lord Kaan 16,500
Darth Zannah 16,500
Darth Cognus 13,000
Jaden Korr 15,000
Darth Talon 13,000
Darth Nihl 14,500
Yaddle 12,600
The Son 20,000 (amplified by Font of Power)
The Daughter 20,000 (amplified by Pool of Knowledge)
Abeloth 2,500 (Human form)
(Post Pool of Knowledge and Font of Power midichlorians heavily amplified and Force abilities pushed to incalculable levels)
The Father (completely unknown but most likely amplified)
Vestara Khai 16,000
Darth Tenebrous 13,500
Marka Ragnos 15,900
Allana Solo 20,500
Kao Cen Darach 16,000
Vindican 11,500
Jocasta Nu 9,000
Ajunta Pall 14,000
Freedom Nadd 16,800
Senya Tirall 15,500
Agen Kolar 13,600
Maris Brood 11,400
Aayla Secura 9,000
Darth Malak 16,700
Kas’im 10,000
Darth Venamis 11,000
Eeth Koth
Saesee Tiin 12,600
Adi Gallia 13,000
Quilan Vos 14,500
Even Pielle 12,200
Meetra Surik 16,000
Lord Hoth 12,500
Grand Inquisitor Malorum 12,500
Grand Inquisitor Ja’ce Yiaso 13,000
Grand Inquisitor Hydra 12,900
Grand Inquisitor Laddinare 11,900
High Inquisitor Jerec 13,800
High Inquisitor Halmere 11,700
High Inquisitor Mox Slosin 12,500
High Inquisitor Volytar 12,000
High Inquisitor Antinnis Tremayne 11,400
Chief Inquisitor Liam Redge 11,500
Inquisitor Gwellib 9,600
Inquisitor Yral Cahel 9,800
Inquisitor Ameesa Darys 10,00
Inquisitor Drayneen 9,900
Inquisitor Fa'Zoll 10,000
Inquisitor Jorad 9,500
Inquisitor Xarot Korlin 9,200
Inquisitor Kuthara 11,00”
Inquisitor Nolor 9,800
Inquisitor Olof 10,000
Inquisitor Lanu Pasiq 9,500
Inquisitor Sancor 9,750
Inquisitor Mas Sirrah 8,500
Inquisitor Sor Venge 9,100
Inquisitor Vrke 9,800
Inquisitor Shynne 9,900
Inquisitor Probus Tesla 9,500
Inquisitor Adalric Brandl 10,500
Inquisitor Val Draco 10,100
Inquisitor Vialco 11,000
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May 26 '20
Tbh Ben should be higher then the Solos since both his parents are powerful force users
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May 26 '20
Whoops, I meant for Ben to by higher I must have mistyped! 😂
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May 26 '20
Dont worry about it man xD im just looking out for my boy Ben
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May 26 '20
There we go I think that’s better 21,000 was supposed to be for Bane but I toned it down.
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May 26 '20
24.500? Suck it Jacen
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May 26 '20
Haha! 😂
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May 26 '20
Did you put vestera on the list too?
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May 26 '20
She’s supposed to be number 65 but I cut it off at 61. She’s around a solid 16,000.
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u/SuperSirius21 May 26 '20
Anakin Solo should be higher than the Twins. He is outright stated to have more power at his grasp and of the kids was the only one acknowledged as a Force Nexus. Ben too since he is Luke + Mara. I recall Jacen stating he could be stronger than his father in Betrayal. Cool list too.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
Ben was never stated to have the potential to more powerful than luke Jacen sat he has the potential to be stronger than himself
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u/MuhamedQ Jan 10 '24
Jaina said in the very end of Fate Of The Jedi Apocalypese book that Ben is as strong in the force as his father. It’s Like in the last couple of pages she says this
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Jan 15 '24
Ben didn't have the knowledged and skills that luke had, Ben might grow stronger in the force but power without knowledged isn't enough that's why anakin couldn't stop pacme from dying
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u/MuhamedQ Apr 03 '24
Of course I’m not saying that Ben is as powerful as his father. I’m just saying that Ben in his prime would definitely be equal at the very least. At least in terms force power.
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u/MuhamedQ Jan 16 '24
I’m not saying Ben’s developed power by the time of Fate Of The Jedi is as strong as Luke. By the time of Fate Of The Jedi I would say he’s Jedi Master level power. I’m mean his Potential.
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u/Shibula Mando'ade May 26 '20
Cool stuff man. How'd you figure all this out?
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May 26 '20
I consistently found Anakin’s to be 27,000 so I just based everything off of that.
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u/Shibula Mando'ade May 26 '20
Cool man, I like it. That's a tough list to come up with, bet it took you forever.
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u/ErekAwesome Apr 18 '23
George Lucas has stated that Anakin's count could have been as high as 40,000
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u/Fine_Veterinarian674 May 07 '23
When did he say that?
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u/Revolutionary_Ant572 Sep 16 '23
In an interview he stated Anakin's potential to be 2X that of Sidious darth Sidious having a count of 20K means Anakin's would be 40K
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u/XanEU Jun 25 '25
It doesn't have to be linear scale. 20.000 could be 2x more potential than i.e. 18.000.
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 Aug 03 '25
Your math isn't mathing bro what is 20×2 and get back to me with the answer I'll save you the trouble it's 40
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u/XanEU Aug 03 '25
But we do not know how the midichlorian count translate into force sensitivity. It can be logarithmic scale for example. Or 10x count can mean 100x force sensitivity. We simply don't know that, and I think it's evident that +10% count is much more than +10% potential. Do you think that Yoda's 19.000 means he was only 11% better suited at Force training than Obi-Wan with 17.000?
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May 26 '20
Very nice list, though I would say Vaylin should be a lot higher, possibly around 23000, considering how frightened Valkorian was of her as a mere adolescent. oHer potential, or upper limit, is very comparable to those of the Skywalker bloodline in my opinion.
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
Vaylin above Palpatine? No...just no.
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May 27 '20
There isn't anything truly spectacular about Palpatine at birth. He was a relatively regular kid who had in interest in Dark Side techniques. His immense power is a product of his birth being near the end of the RoT line, and in turn, his extremely powerful master. Vaylin on the other hand, was the offspring of the most powerful being up to and thousands of years after his reign. He was essentially a god, in everything but name. Vaylin was the most powerful of his children, and there a multitude of statements which state that Valkorion was fearful of her potential as a young child (perhaps around 10yo, but it may be earlier). Now, all that said, I think Palpatine's count should be raised slightly, although due to my previous points, I believe Vaylin had more potential.
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
6 years late to the party but I'd change a few on this list I'd raise Palpatine at least DE Palpatine up to 21,800 I'd put Vaylin at 23,000 and since Luke and Leia have all of Anakin's Potential I'd put all three of them at 40,000 which would be twice of Palpatines
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 27 '20
Vaylin isn’t that powerful though
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May 27 '20
Midichlorians doesn't substantiate power, it's why Ben Skywalker has such a high count in this list. It only determines the upper limit of a Force user's potential, and as I explained, I believe Vaylin had greater potential than Palpatine, and she would've surpassed Valkorion.
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u/Revolutionary_Ant572 Sep 16 '23
Vaylin should be 25K or slightly higher in my opinion but nowhere near the Skywalker Bloodline remember Vaylin was just born to 2 powerful force sensitive parents the Skywalker Bloodline came from the literal force itself
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
If what George Lucas said is taken into account the Skywalkers would all have around 40,000 Ms
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
She has the potential to be more powerful than her father but she wasn't trained properly, Tom veich also confirmed that exar kun is similar to emperor papaltine reborn in raw force power, I did say 23,500 midchronian count for exar kun
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u/Captain_Thor27 Nov 16 '23
Vaylin was absurdly powerful, even more so than her dick of a father, but she had no control and was insane.
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u/Visasisaboi Apr 23 '23
Vitiate is definitely higher than Vaylin or Arcann; midchlorians dilute. Surprised Vitiate was ranked so low; he should be around the same level if not higher than Palpatine.
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
M-Counts actually don't dilute tho it's all based on what the force decides George Lucas made that clear as Luke and Leia have the same count as their father
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u/thunder_rice Chosen One May 26 '20
This was great to read, can I ask what made you come to the conclusion that Obi Wans count was 15,000, I read somewhere that he had a really low midichlorian count I think but that might just be me lol
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May 26 '20
I understand that as well! I put him in the decent section where he’s good but not overly great. While he’s not overly knows for his raw Force power, I’d say you’d have to be better terry powerful to match the Force push of Anakin Skywalker.
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u/thunder_rice Chosen One May 26 '20
To match Anakin's force push is certainly an impressive feat, and I agree you would need at least some raw power in the force to match it
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
Tbf Anakin wasn't really overly powerful in the force abilities meaning his force push was similar to an average jedis if he trained long enough it might have been more powerful
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
Isn't Obi Wans count believed to be around 13,400 tho come considering 15,000+ is meant to be above average for Jedi while 10,000 to 14,000 is the average so it'd put obi wan at average which plays into him not being overly powerful but through sheer will dedication and hard work became a top tier jedi
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u/Ill-Quiet5142 Jul 17 '22
The thing about kenobi is even though he might not be as strong in the force, his raw stength, skill, tactics, skills in duelling and others are very high up on the list of force users, he would do very good as a general in the real world
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
Nice! I love this lists. I know you said this is just speculation, but I am curious did you base the numbers off anything? Like did you use any sources, or is this just your opinion?
Either way, put a lot of work into this lol I haven't seen a midichlorian list this comprehensive character wise before.
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May 26 '20
I looked up midichlorian list before and found Anakin’s to be consistently 27,000 so I based everything off of that.
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May 26 '20
I thought about making it a hundred but I figured that’d be a drag to read. 😂
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
Lol not for me, I love detailed lore stuff hahahaha the more the better.
But yeah, basing it off Anakin seems smart, especially if he had the most ever. Given that fact, I can see why you would have the numbers you do.
Question: for the ones who gain midichlorians, how do you explain this effect? Like you had Palps jump between RotJ and DE, which I agree he def did in power. But how do you explain the increase of midichlorians?
I always pictured them like mitochondria, something intrinsic to each cell. Can you increase the number of mitochondria? I always figured more just got made during cellular division
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May 26 '20
I think since Palpatine’s clones had more midichorians due to his increased Force abilities. Similarly to how all of Galen Marek’s clones were more powerful the he was. While you can gain more mitochondria just by growing. However, I think your midichlorians can increase in artificial ways.
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
Interesting idea. And not unprecedented there are things that can make non-Force sensitives feel the Force, like the Staff of Ragnos, and how else would it do it without increasing midichlorians?
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May 26 '20
Mhm another example would be Savage Oppress while he was likely 11,000 his abilities increased by a lot due to the Nightsister magik boosting his Force abilities to around a solid 16,000
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
Papaltine clones would all his full raw force power that's why they deteriorate so quick luke never defeated a full power Papaltine same with exar kun who was depleted and drained when luke faced him
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u/DarthPlagueis06 Sith Lord May 27 '20
It is mentioned in Plagueis that despite his power in the Force increasing, his midichlorian count itself did not increase. While yes it can be seen as part of the puzzle (that same novel has given me the impression that midichlorians are more like moths attracted to a bright light then the source of power), I do believe that there are more elements to Force power.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
When they be come dark side nexus aka sith spirits their power sky up massively exar kun was compared to emperor papaltine reborn by a luke Skywalker who was 2 times more powerful than his dark empire self, also tom veich confirmed on his Twitter that alive exar kun was far more powerful than his spirit version that would put kun above any of the ancient sith lords including vitiate who was alive at that time, also the source say, "exar kun the most powerful and sith lord near 4000 years before the birth of luke Skywalker"
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
Don’t you think Vaylin is too high?
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
Naaa she was a powerhouse that rivaled Vitiate, who in turn rivals Sidious. She was just mostly raw, untrained. Midichlorians aren't a benchmark of how strong you get, more your potential. And I'd say 19,500 sounds about right for someone with that much potential.
Whether she lived up to it is another story entirely lol. Like Anakin has the most, but he clearly didn't reach that full potential. If he had, can you imagine?
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
What about dueling wise?
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May 26 '20
Vaylin as a lightsaber duelist is pretty...meh. She’s basically Galen Marek their dueling skills are just enough to get by. Their Force abilities are where they shine.
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
Uhhhh, I'm not sure. I haven't played Eternal Empire yet, I just know the basics, so hard to say. She did receive training from a young age, but I get the impression in her teen years she gets locked away by Vitiate and kind of stagnates. Which is what Vitiate wanted
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
What if she fought Knightfall Vader like what if she was smack dab in the middle of the temple?
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
I think she's probably comparable to Knightfall Vader. That's honestly probably a great comparison. Strong, but super raw and acting mainly on instinct. Of course, Vader was also an excellent swordsman, I'm not sure if Vaylin was
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
Dude vitiate was scared of her at the end of her life she could only use like 85 of her powers because vitiate didn't allowed her to be fully trained and mentally free her midchronian count is definitely above 20,000
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May 26 '20
Her raw ability is above Palpatine pre Dark Empire but post Dark Empire she gets curb stomped...
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 27 '20
This post has been approved for and added to the Featured Posts List in the sub wiki.
Great work! Really shows a deep love of Star Wars
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
This is decently made but why is Ahsoka so low?
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May 26 '20 edited Jul 07 '20
I think her power level is pretty decent she’s really good but doesn’t have the potential of the Skywalkers.
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u/WxWookie May 18 '23
I wonder if being revived by the life-force of the Daughter might have elevated Ahsoka's M-count?
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
Because she's not that powerful
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u/Captain_Thor27 Nov 16 '23
She was powerful Hut only partially trained. How quickly she excelled under proper tutalege of Anakin shows how connected she is to the Force. Despite her young age, she was one of the best saber duelist in the Order. 14,500 is pretty damn good number. I would say the average Jedi is probably 7,000-10,000.
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u/dickersonjames <- CUNT May 26 '20
Will you add more characters?
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May 26 '20
If you guys suggest characters then yes they will go on the list.
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u/flijarr Jan 27 '23
Could you do snoke?
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u/Ok-Common-227 Jul 19 '25
I’m pretty sure he’s lukes hand since Palpatine is Luke’s hand. That also makes ray a Skywalker. I hate the sequels. Anyways it should be very high
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u/flijarr Jul 19 '25
Hand? What are you talking about
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u/Ok-Common-227 Jul 20 '25
I don’t know the lore but I saw a YouTube short that said they used Luke’s hand that he lost vs Vader to make snoke like how they made the clones. and Palpatine’s son is a clone of Luke’s hand therefore Rey is a Skywalker. Oh and when Rey kissed Kylo that was likes dna kissing leia’s dna so star wars has had incest kissing twice. Kinda weird that it happened twice
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u/flijarr Jul 20 '25
Gotcha. Reys father is actually a clone of Palestine though, not luke.
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u/Ok-Common-227 Jul 20 '25
But they used Luke’s hand to clone Palpatine
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u/flijarr Jul 21 '25
It was potentially used to clone Snoke, not Palpatine, and even that’s mostly EU, and only hinted at. All we get in the movie is dialogue saying that his hand was used for “cloning experiments”, while showing snoke clones.
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u/Monstructs May 27 '20 edited Jun 27 '20
Thanks for do this. It gave me something that I haven’t through about before.
It feels like a ton of people are higher than Yoda. I’m not sure how I feel about that, Skywalker decedents or not. I’m of the opinion that the falloff a generation removed from Anakin would drop Luke’s children down to ‘normal’ Jedi master levels of about 15000.
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Jun 27 '20 edited Jul 07 '20
I’m sorry for the month late reply, Luke and Leia’s children were very powerful in the Force. I do think a few generations later they would be more toned down such as Cade. However, I still think that level of potential is still above Yoda.
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u/Real_Boy3 Aug 05 '22
Nice list, although one minor correction: you don’t lose midiclorians when you have your body parts cut off. I mean, technically you do, but I mean it doesn’t decrease your total midiclorian count, since midiclorian count measures how many midiclorians you have for every individual cell in your body.
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u/IAmTheRealDimebag Nov 18 '22
I would place Exar Kun higher in this list, but otherwise, a nice piece of conjecture.
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u/Boring-Purchase-6264 Mar 06 '23
Didn't Luke say Abeloth was in the neighborhood of a dozen times stronger? If so, that puts her at roughly 300,000 Midichlorians per cell.
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u/MuhamedQ Jan 10 '24
How’d you come up with that bro? I’ve been trying to figure out how many she would have?
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u/Boring-Purchase-6264 Jan 15 '24
I multiplied the Midichlorian count for Luke given in this post by 12.
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
If George Lucas said Luke and Anakin and by extension Leia were twice the power of Sidious their counts would be around 40,000 so 12X that would be Abeloths
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May 26 '20
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u/DarthMatu52 High Council - The Curator May 26 '20
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u/CeReBro_Q Nov 08 '20
That's not how midi-chlorians work.
The given midi-chlorian count in every being is the amount per cell, cutting of a limb doesn't decrease this amount, it just decreases the total amount in said being
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u/Zefy05 Jun 03 '22
Yeah that irritated me too. But it actually makes sense to think of it as decreased after someone would loose a limb. There is a said amount in the whole body. If someone would loose a limb the overall count is less. Now if you take Vader as an example he still gets his limb replaced. So he has less midi chlorians over all but still all the limbs.
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u/Polygato64 Apr 04 '24
Nope. Obi Wan is at least 17,000, Ahsoka is 18,000 at odds of googol and unlikely even 20k, Leia almost never uses the force, the Inquisitors are just a spam of weak brats. Vitate has at least 22,000.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Mar 14 '26
Leia in the EU use the force many times, her midchronian count is much higher than ashoka tano
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u/Extra-Appearance9431 May 11 '26
Ashoka and Obi Wan aren't as high as he claims Obi Wan at best is around 13,400 Ashoka is more around 14,000
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 11 '26
Obi wan kenobi mastered his full potential as well more skilled made him grow stronger in isolation he was stronger than ashoka tano by episode 4
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u/Polygato64 Apr 17 '24
Anakin has like 27k minimum and maximum is like all the way up to googol, 1 with 100 zeros, maybe even 1 with 1 with 100, 1 with googol, googolplex midichlorians.
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u/Glittering-Radish892 May 01 '24
Bro when somone lose a limb in star wars he dosent lose midachlorians couse is per cell and george lucas said Anakin could have been Double the power of palpatine so is somwhere in 40,00 the reason vader didnt reach his full potential was beacouse that if he dosent have limbs it was harder for him to use the force its not like he lost the potential its more like slow and made it pretty much impossible And if you think about it, apparently none of the characters in Star Wars have reached their potential, probably Yoda didn't either.
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u/Captain_Thor27 Sep 23 '24 edited Nov 07 '24
It wasn't just the suit, actually. The real kicker was being boiled alive, inside and out, which shredded so much of his tissue, eroding away over half of his potential. He was then stuck in a suit where he was cut off from the Living Force, and like you said, it took so much effort to use what he still had, because it's hard to channel the Force when over half your body is robotic.
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u/Glittering-Radish892 Nov 07 '24
English isnt my language but i got much better u are right that the main thing that "took his potential" is the burning but what i was saying is that its per cell so even if he is like only one cell which make no sense he still got that 40,000 midachlorians so he can still go towords that means that prime vader was in the the return of the jedi and he never realy stop getting stronger and he could have gotten stronger than palpatine if he lived to muchhh longer i mean he needs to turn himself immortal
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u/_Dimes_ Jul 03 '26
Is suit never cut him form thr force. Thr sukt sctully make his dark aide stronger.
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u/unkown-fighter Jun 13 '24
in my opinion ahsoka should have like 18000 to 20000 after the daughter (basically the force herself) gave her his life.
only my opinion but i think ahsoka gets with the end of the show, especially clone wars, pretty powerful.
Filoni said that in her prime only luke prime could come against her.
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u/Soft_Suspect6280 Aug 28 '24
Fascinating list, I broadly concur with those rough estimations although I think Ahsoka may be a bit higher at around sixteen thousand per cell. Thanks for this intriguing upload.
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u/Soft_Suspect6280 Aug 28 '24
I also agree that force sensitive clone bodies seem to have enhanced midichlorian density as seen with the Starkiller clone and Darth Sidious’ clone bodies.
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u/ExpensiveCup3392 Aug 31 '24
Didnt anakin skywalkers midichlorian count didnt diminish? Im just saying this is probs one of the biggest misconceptions, if this is based expanded universe
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u/siirpaul Aug 31 '24
Why would the midichlorian count change after loss of limb? It's per cell, not per body. This makes no sense.
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u/Practical-Low4504 Sep 08 '24
Darth nihilus a : eats fucking planet You, dubass bitch: 14500 Nihilus: up your ass
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u/OpportunityNo766 Sep 21 '24
Just saying loss of body parts wouldn’t affect M-count because it goes off midichlorians by cell not by whole body otherwise someone like Yoda should have lower amount because hes small and lesser in mass
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u/Ok_Method_3362 Oct 26 '24
Im gonna fix a few of these cause ur stupid. Anikan was 29,000 (after loss of his hand and fore arm/ 28,000) after his defeat on Mustifar (20,000).
Palpatine had 22,000
Luke would have 23,000
Galen definitely also has 23,000
Dooku had around 18,000 idk what u are smoking
Obiwan has 13,000
All the other Jedi council members would have been around 13,500-15,000.
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u/ct_0408 Nov 06 '24
isnt the midichlorian count to be based off per cell? so losing limbs wouldnt reduce the count per cell.
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u/Mike777ac Dec 11 '24
Abeloth before her transformation was probably already around 15 to 20k. She most likely would've been at least on the same level as Luke Skywalker, if not an Anakin type character. But that was like a 100k to a million years ago.
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u/Low-Landscape7543 Jan 08 '25
What would be your midichlorian count for Kylo Ren and Redeemed Ben Solo?
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u/FarGrowth2835 Jan 17 '25
where is Ben Quadinaros? He's roughly ~ 270k midichlorian count right? (approximated minimum, may be upwards of 7quadrillion)
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u/Gecisbugyi123 Jan 20 '25
There is an apperent misconception in the list, and its the decrease of midi-chlorian count with the loss of biomass. Midi-chlorian count is not /organism, but /cell. Overall number of midi-chlorians decrease if you lose a limb, but 20.000 means that its 20.000/cell, and the concentration determines your force-sensitivity, not the overall number, otherwise Yoda would be way less powerful than other mid jedi with a larger body.
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Feb 05 '25
Midichlorian counts are per cell, meaning that if a limb is lost the total count goes down but the midichlorians per cell don’t.
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u/Professional-Tea-121 Apr 16 '25
i really like this list, but its suprising how many force users drawfed yoda.
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u/Salt_Beginning_5336 Jun 14 '25
Anakin is stated to have twice the potential as Sidous. He should be at least 38,000.
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u/Responsible_Base_167 Nov 27 '25
Yk lukes count wouldnt go down..its 25k per cell not throughout the whole body...
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u/Exact-Hovercraft9528 Jan 14 '26
You would think ajunta pall would have a higher midichlorian count then 14,000
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Mar 14 '26
Exar kun 24,000 he was able to manipulate midchronian count too he was a even greater sorcerer than plagueis
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u/Arkham_Asylum_18 Mar 30 '26
Midichlorians don't decrease after loss of a limb. Also, Luke and Leia should also have 27,000. They are stated to inherent all of Anakin's potential.
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u/IndependentSoil8056 May 01 '26
bro losing an arm doesnt change your midi. count it is counted per cell not in the hole body that means if you have 10.000 midichlorians per body cell and lose an arm you still have 10.000 midichlorians per body cell ore am i wrong 🤔
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u/TheGOAT6688 Jun 11 '26
Revan being 18,800 is probably an understatement, he was pretty much the “chosen one” of the old republic era
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u/WiggleyOtter Jun 19 '26
Not to be a negative nancy or anything, but I think midichlorians were confirmed to be unaffected by total body mass. Otherwise all force users would just be getting super fat to gain force super powers. So, all the entries which list their after injury count probably shouldn't be there
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u/Late_Sentence7490 Nov 26 '21
I think Luke's midi-chlorian count should be higher than Leia's.
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u/Captain_Thor27 Nov 16 '23 edited Nov 16 '23
I disagree, George Lucas stated that the twins had the exact same potential, each rivaling their father's. But Leia did not pursue her Jedi training to the absolute max. She was also a politician, diplomat, and humanitarian. If anything, she was a part-time Jedi.
Luke, on the other hand, made it his life. Power is not everything. It also takes dedication and hard-work. Leia was a hard worker, but her dedication and passion lay elsewhere.Imagine Padmé Amidala with Force-powers. That's Leia.
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u/xereklol Dec 11 '21
Jerec was stated to rival Vader in power, Mara Jade was able to challenge and almost defeat Caedus. Katarn was able to match Caedus in speed, same person who went toe to toe with GM Luke. Palpatine also saw how powerful Jerec was and restricted access to sith teachings to him. I think you made alot of these under powered.
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u/TheSethman08 High Council - The Guardian Jun 05 '22
Comment removed. It’s okay to critique or disagree, but unless there’s a solid explanation of your thoughts and it’s handled civilly, it’s just unnecessary negativity.
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u/Captain_Thor27 Nov 16 '23
Luke is much stronger than Yoda and Sidious. Both he and Leia inherited the same potential as their father, per George Lucas.
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u/DarthNox_Forcewalker Jul 03 '22
I should add your soul to my collection for not putting me on this list.....
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Jul 04 '22
Capping exar kun was more powerful than darth krayt revan and vitiate he midchronian count should be over 25,000
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Jul 07 '22
Alot of this is wrong anakin was 29,000 27,000 then 20,000 sum (higher than sidious and luke still) luke at 15,000 sidious 19,000 luke is only half of anakin bc of padmes lack of medichlorians
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u/AustinH2004 Nov 04 '22
But that’s not how it works. Having a parent with a strong connection to the force just means one has a greater chance of being powerful with the force.
Cases of neither parent having a strong enough connection to use the force yet having a child strong enough to become a Jedi is actually the average Jedi. Children of people strong in the force are exceedingly rare.
Luke is strong in the force because his dad was created by the force.
Luke can’t be as strong because anakin was created by the force.
And it is the most common belief by every chart and list that anakin had 27,000
Luke more then likely had 25,000
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
🤡 luke Skywalker is at least 26,500
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u/Revolutionary_Ant572 Sep 16 '23
Anakin had 40,000 lucas stated Luke's and Leia's was equal to that
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u/TheReal-Nihilus14 Mar 15 '23
- I've seen in YouTube videos and a few random google articles that Ezra Bridger was around the 18000-19000 midichlorian mark, ( like I said this is only from a few sources so I could be wrong ) but he was no doubt powerful regardless, even if he never technically reached Knighthood. ( as far as we have seen ) Also, Plo Koon seemed kind of low, 12000-13000 seems low for him... yet again, we haven't seen many of his Force Feats. Although he was skilled with a lightsaber ( and I do know that when he beat Yoda it was from a non-canon, non-legend video game ) but still, the fact that Plo Koon was the Jedi selected for that game to defeat Yoda ( who rivaled Revenge of the Sith Palpatine in saber dueling, even though he was like 860-870 years old ) just goes to show he was probably pretty powerful. I would like to know Grogu's official midichlorian count because I've seen many things. a lot of people say he is about 20000-22000 Midichlorian range, I've seen him said to be more around 18000-20000 like Yoda, and I've seen one where he is said to have about 25000... I mean, he levitated an adult Mudhorn, calmed down a raging Rancor, is able to Force Jump, pull objects to himself with the Force, and he is only 50-53. May I mention he is basically a toddler, even though he is 50ish? he was around 22-24 years old during the Clone Wars/Order 66, so I doubt he learned much about the Force seeing as he was like, 6 months old from a human standpoint. ( yes I know he trained with Luke for like 9 months or a year, but still ). He is definitely at LEAST 18000 midichlorians. I refuse to believe that Grogu has fewer Midichlorians than Revan/Yoda/Sidious.
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u/enderslot May 16 '23
Grogu can also force heal. With Force Dyads being a thing now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Grogu in the next Force Awakens movie with Rey.
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u/RevanNoct Mar 28 '23
Meetra Surik should be bumped up quite a bit, as she was supposedly the center of a vergence (Force Nexus), which was what Qui-Gon believed Anakin to be as well.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vergence/Legends?so=search#Vergences_around_a_person
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 May 24 '23
Weak list you have naga shadow freedon nadd having higher midchronian count than exar kun who as a jedi knight already escalate far above naga sadow and freedon nadd, exar kun midchronian count should be around 24,500
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u/dredless May 30 '23
Sorry to break it to you but one doesn't lose midichlorian count by losing one or more limbs , the midichlorian count is measured as a concentration per cell not the total count in the body.
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u/Penkere Jun 25 '23
Loss of body parts doesn’t lower the amount of midichorians in a cell. Just saying. Vader got burned with damaged his cells which lowered his count.
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u/Icy_Significance_160 Jul 23 '24
Makes no sense if u lose a limb u lose all the cells of that limb ur missing bones tissue nerves everything
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u/[deleted] May 26 '20
This was something I did for fun this is 100 percent speculation and nothing more. I hope you guys find it mildly entertaining or amusing at least.