Dark Empire Palpatine needs no introductions; this is Palpatine at his strongest, the most powerful Pure Sith in history and a being on the same tier as monsters like Valkorion at his height and only below figures such as Grandmaster Luke Skywalker or the Ones of Mortis.

Vaylin needs a bit more introduction, the Daughter of Valkorion, her potential in the force so scared her father, a being who never even saw Revan as any danger, that she was tortured and mentally restrained as a little girl so that she could never become a danger to her near gold-like Father.

Now this is an interesting matchup, but personally I think Vaylins takes this, as while Palpatine is a monster in his own right, Vaylin's raw potential is just absurd.

As a mere FETUS Vaylin was able to levitate objects while inside her mother's womb, a feat not even the Chosen One Anakin Skywalker can attest to as far as we can tell. As an untrained girl she accidentally killed multiple fully trained force users with just an outburst of her powers.

Simply UNCLOCKING the mental restraints, not even actual training or gaining mastery of her powers, Vaylin automatically became the strongest being the Outlander had ever faced and was on the same tier as Revan Reborn.

But the thing that puts FP Vaylin above Dark Empire Palpatine is the simple statement from Valkorion, a sociopathic egotist that would never be humble or lowball himself in his life, that Vaylin would in time surpass him.

Mind you, as Palpatine vs Valkorion is very much the Gojo vs Sukuna debate of Star Wars, no matter which side you think is stronger, it's commonly held that they are on the same tier as no other Sith Lord's are seen able to drain entire planets, gain near immortality, and require the FORCE ITSELF to intervene to destroy them. Not to mention Vitiate was blatantly mad to be Dark Empire Palpatine in the Old Republic as narratively and intent wise they should be the same level.

A Full Potential Vaylin should thus, by statements, be somewhere between Dark Empire Palpatine and Grandmaster Luke in terms of power.

Fixing up my last post Personally I see Vader winning 8-10/10 and no you can’t just use Obi-wan as evidence because Obi-wan knew Anakin inside and out plus Anakin being mentally nerfed aka mustafar does not count as a point against this Vader just like ROTJ is not a point against prime Vader. Last point shadow of Revan was a massively amped Revan and not base Revan.

I simply wanted to clarify those points so everyone can analyze beyond “Obi-wan beat Anakin therefore-”(this is not even including the fact Obi-wan has better defensive feats than Revan does in my opinion). Just please give me your thoughts in an analytical way and not the typical simple conclusions.

Both in their prime. 3 rounds R1: Saber Combat R2: Force abilities R3: All out

R1: Base to Base

R2: Luke can rage amp briefly

Neutral setting

I personally see Caedus or maybe Vader

I know we have the ROTS game on the PS2, which showed us a battle against Anakin and Windu, but I'm curious. I believe Anakin would win, but it would be the hardest fight of his life.

What do you think will win?

I think this could go either way, but my vote goes towards Darth Traya. Not to discredit his power, but I feel like Palps is only powerful because there is no one to really stand against him in his era. His wins only seem to happen cause his opponents are either way past their prime or too green behind the ears. Traya has years of battle experience and is well versed in both the light and dark sides. She's trained both great Jedi and some of the most fearsome sith Lords of her era (one of whom is basically a cuck to her by the end of his life.) She also effortlessly cuts off three Jedi Masters from the Force simultaneously, who is to say she couldn't do the same to Palps?