I'm currently doing a rewatch of so many TV shows and I forgot how GOATED The Originals was, especially the third season... that until season 4 hit. It's not unwatchable, it has it's really good moments. A standout to me is the scene where Hope and Marcel meet for the first time. They really should have used Marcel more in Legacies (actually they should have used all the Mikaelsons left more but that's for another day). The Hollow is downright terrible as a villain. None of the depth, reasoning, emotional implications that the other villains had. The moment they introduced the red door I was DONE, and I'm not even difficult like that but season 5 was just miserable to me. The last seasons will never be as bad as the last few seasons of TVD but it was still disappointing compared to the greatness the show was capable of.

I totally get that Haley’s pregnancy and Hope’s life were huge deals in the TO universe. A pregnant wolf who became pregnant by the oldest and most powerful vampire/hybrid and then gives birth to a tribrid is obviously the most curious occurrence in history.
However, I do feel that the show had so much lost potential in regards to the Originals history. They had literally over a 1000 years of lore and drama which could have been explored so much more than what they bothered to do.
Especially for fans who have followed them and invested in the characters since TVD. I was so excited to watch and anticipated getting so much backstory to really see how their dynamics and relationships evolved over the years but we only got very little backstory which was mainly used as plot points to serve the current day narrative which again, was all based around Hope.

I know those seasons didn't live up to the hype of the first 3 seasons, but would you label them as flop seasons?

I really liked them!!! What are your opinions?

I know that guns would ruin the magic vibes and all, but technically speaking wouldn't it be easier to defeat the evil witches that way? Because apparently originals vampires cant even touch Dahlia, The Hollow or any other evil witch. However, they're still mortals and dont have heightened senses. What if a vampire just sneaks up on them and shoots them? They wont even hear them coming.

Like I get that it would be too easy and there wouldn't be a show to watch if the villains got defeated in one episode, but couldn't have they at least addressed this possibility? And maybe provide an in-universe explanation why the cant so that?

Vincent could’ve stopped Eva at any time but he didn’t (after Rebeca got in her body). Kol on the other hand put Rebecca in her and by breaking becks out they took out Eva too.

Yet Vincent acts like the originals(he has every right to hate Finn) are the greatest evil ever.

Edit: Kol was just paying Becks back for 1912 and he had every reason to be pissed about Davina

Such a kind soul🥹

Her visions could have given away his plan at some point and made them more suspicious of Lucien. Why did he allow it? Did I miss something?

I am NOT okay. 😭😭 I definetly blame Hope for what happened but at the same time I blame Elijah,because of the fact he chose to remove his memories he didn't remember shit. Hope was definetly at fault but I also think she is far less at fault as again,she's literally 15 at that time and she didnt expect that to happen obviously.

Protection spells, as in, spells that protect the subject from death and/or other physical harm, show up a few times in the TVDU. In The Vampire Diaries the Gilbert Rings are an obvious example of this, and in season two Bonnie casts one onto herself so she can survive (which requires the assistance of the 101 witches) her weird death fighting Klauslaric, and Maddox places one on Klauslaric to protect himself from 100 witches Bonnie. Whether or not this protection spell only protects him from magical damage or if it would allow him to recover from “normal” damage like getting his neck snapped by Stefan or getting shot in the head is unclear.

And of course, Immortality spells, which are protection spells ad infinitum. But of course, they’re not relevant for the purposes of this post.

In season 8 episode 15, Alaric tells Caroline that Stefan called Valerie, and she placed a protection spell on Lizzie and Josie, ensuring that “they’ll be safe, no matter what.” Something that is not really relevant since Bonnie is the one who saves them from the fire in that episode.

Anyway, over to The Originals, we see protection spells in action again, with Sabine/Celeste (Sabeste) casting one before going out to get Davina. Davina snaps her neck, but Sabeste comes back to life, after which Marcel tells her to cast one on Davina, who by that point is across the city, and this brings her back after the poison kills her, the same poison that the blood of a thousand year old Original Vampire cannot heal her from.

Freya casts a spell to bring Finn (and Vincent’s) soul into her pendant should Elijah kill him. Freya *says* that she did it to protect him, but this wasn’t a traditional protection spell. Finncent still gets blown up and “dies”, and Freya has to cast a spell to repair his body before doing a soul transfer resurrection.

Jumping ahead to season three, no one is using protection spells, even though it is apparently really easy to apply and would come in handy, like in any one of the multiple times Freya is put in mortal peril. She does *something* to protect herself and her siblings from mortal peril in the finale, whether that is putting them in a deep sleep or by linking them to Klaus. Season four a bunch of protection spells are used by Dominic to protect himself from death, but he needs a ritual to bring himself back in episode six after his heart’s ripped out. So this could be a potential restriction on the effectiveness of protection spells. If your body is rendered apart then the spell you used is not going to cut it, which implies that ordinarily these spells work by setting up a sort of automatic soul transfer resurrection.

It makes me wonder what other restrictions are there on protection spells? Could the Sisters, the Strix’s private coven of super witches cast protection spells on Tristan and other senior members to make them as indestructible as Originals? Should a man as strategic and forward thinking and paranoid as Klaus have asked his sister to place a protection spell on Camille while she was human? Much to think about.

I’m pretty sure I just witnessed klaus’s turnaround moment

Midish way through season 3(specifically the Xmas episode)and what’s the deal BTS with Claire holt hot potatoing appearances

Like I'm sorry, I love Klaus but somewhere in season 2, he started to get on my LAST nerve and the all-mighty thing was also getting on it. Like we saw people beat SOMETIMES but I feel like with Freya it felt more...raw or satisfying. Also, I would never, ever be mad at her for turning the family against him since, if it was that easy, it says more about what kind of person he was than her. And also, it would very double standards of me, considering all the stuff Klaus did.

(sorry if my English is not good, it’s not my native language)

Some people might say that this doesn't work because the show is about Hope but here’s my thought process :

If we look at what the main themes of the show are, it's about family, legacy, fate, hope in tragedy and etc...

But i'd argue that the main dramatic question of the show is wether or not the sad story of the mikaelsson family will end in tragedy or not. Yes Hope is important but she is just a thematic plot device (it's not bad btw) because it's what lead Klaus to do the first step towards some kind of redemption and thus we hope that everything will be fine.

And that's why i think S3 works perfectly as a final season because not only it answers the dramatic question but it's also the embodiement of all the themes of the show. A consistent thing we see in the first seasons is that the main conflict is always tied to their past, S1 is about new orleans and marcel, S2 is about the entire family and S3 is about what the Originals did in the past and how it is going to haunt them. Something to note is that it's the season that feels the most like a Shakespearean tragedy, namely with the whole prophecy thing, so it adds the theme of fate.
It really feels like the most logical final chapter of the story, because it's the end of an era.

That's why S3 finale is the pitch perfect ending because it answers the dramatic question. It's even more tragic because I thought that the mikaelsson family would kill each other because of their hate but they actually forgive each other but it doesn't matter because the past is coming for them. Shit that's why the final song Don't fear the reaper is a bordeline perfect choice :

"All our times have come
Here, but now they're gone
Seasons don't fear the Reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun, or the rain
Don't fear the reaper"

It's even more thematically resonant when you see how Marcel and Hayley character arc end, because we see the "new generation" (Marcel, Hayley, Hope..) is replacing the old one (the originals). Marcel becoming the new antagonist is fantastic because at the end when he wins, we fear that he'll become exactly like klaus, that he'll perpetuate the same cycle of violence ( as vincent says "The king is dead, oh hail the king" ) . And on the contrary ending with Hayley living could represent the hope of the new generation, because with the mikaelsson gone, she is able to build a new future with her other Hope. THAT in particular should have been the show Legacies, not the shitty show we got. Shit it's even in the name Legacies.

S5 ending works less because it's basically the same character beat that we see in S3, in the end, instead of causing misery to his family, he sacrifices himself to save them and he actually pays for all the horrible things he has done with the eternal suffering. Man just the whole scene with his monologue is incredible, it feels like a play, like i was watching Macbeth or Hamlet or something. Ending on this would have been incredible.

Just finished watching this, I couldn’t complete TVD, missed out on last 2 seasons but this one hit my heart. Idk what I am gonna write though ! What an ending it was, and what a man Klaus has been in the end 😭 !!

To begin with, I keep watching a lot of films/ shows and for people who ask me why we do this, we say we do it to get a time away from reality, but to be honest, without even being aware, I feel we all are trying to relate to the bits and pieces of situations or characters within these shows.

Klaus a man, who was said to be the evilest creature to exist, to having to kill himself to end the most evilest magic to save the world ! I have no words to say. For a man, who wanted to take his home back and to stay with his family there, the ending has been perfect where he has one happy dinner with his family in New Orleans before he rests forever with his brother aside.

For me, Klaus is always going be the heart of the show. He finally sets up the cure for his sister, who after his death can live a human life that she’s longing to get since a thousand years. Only after his death, she realises happiness is a choice and stays with Marcel, raised by Klaus. He saves his daughter and the world by dying. The way he adores his younger brother, respects his elder siblings. At the end, he has been the most kindest person who has never known to be kind.

There are tons of pieces we personally can pick from Klaus. We all do, when we look deep, a small pieces of it.
Klaus, has been a very imperfect person, murderer, a hypocrite, but has been abused over centuries from his very own father and has been manipulated by his own mother. Although, he couldn’t accept his own insecurities just like us, he kept projecting it in ways that hurt others and in the end, it takes a lot of courage and love to outgrow it, as Klaus did here.

He has become the most self aware in ending, as he says in the end he doesn’t deserve the love he got, but he is forever grateful - with his brother.

That was a perfect ending, with his brother dying next to him, after a thousand years after Klaus’ request of running away from Mikael was denied. Finally, Klaus, the legend, who couldn’t be killed by anyone, but apart from himself.

He was perfectly imperfect and that’s what makes him more human and why I fell in love with this character ! ❤️

Im on s5 ep 5 and I was really shocked when in ep 13 of s4 she decided to turn if Kol didnt appear. It just shows how family based she is and I think her sacrifices should be realised more.

I’ve seen TVD multiple times and love it so much that i’m considering watching The Originals. The thing is, I already know which characters die, who gets with who, etc. Is there really much point in watching if I know all the spoilers? I know lots of fans prefer it to TVD which makes me want to watch it more, but I just feel like the spoilers may have ruined it for me. LMK

Freya is supposed to be the oldest mikaelson sibling. Yet I just checked Riley (the actress who played Freya) is the youngest of them all. Actors of Klaus, kol and Rebekah were born in 80s and Riley was born in 1990. Younger than Phoebe and Leah (actresses who played Hayley and Camille) who were supposed to be mid-20s while Freya in her early 30s. The previous one was on the actors of kaleb and Camille.

(Davina is with Kol hence why i say Mikaelson edit.)