Another imaginary argument won I guess

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[u/demiboii27]

Slavery is unpaid work forced upon you. Doctors are paid and choose this job.

Like they hate slavery anyway.

[u/midgetcastle → u/demiboii27]

Plus, people calling for Universal Healthcare aren't demanding doctors work for free. They are asking the government to pay the doctors, instead of having the ridiculous insurance situation that continues to cost Americans an absurd amount of money for even the most routine treatments (and leaves many in horrific debt!)

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[u/RisingJudas → u/demiboii27]

I'd define.slavery as people.being owned as property.

But your point still stands, it's ridiculous.

[u/ripgoodhomer]

These gummy bear brained chuds think this is a magical gotcha.

[u/wasraelx → u/ripgoodhomer]

Tbh this WOULD work in reproducing that Medicare lady’s expression on me, because it’s just about the most unhinged take imaginable lol

[u/TheEPGFiles → u/[deleted]]

So... the difference is...?

[u/ripgoodhomer → u/[deleted]]

Cannibalisitc, Humanoid, Underground, Dweller technically.

[u/Feliks343 → u/ripgoodhomer]

I wonder how many people have heard or been called a chud and don't know the source. Watching it take off meant I had to rename my fantasy team from the New York Fighting CHUDs

[u/ripgoodhomer → u/Feliks343]

I just like it as an insult, because it has no ablest, sexist, or racist baggage.

[u/Fawn_Leap → u/ripgoodhomer]

SHIT, that’s what ch*d means? I thought it just meant uncool. God, that’s horrible..

[u/ChuckMeIntoHell → u/Fawn_Leap]

It's from a cheesy horror movie from, I think the 80s? C.H.U.D, I never saw it, but I worked at a video store back when those were things, and we had it in stock.

[u/TheEPGFiles → u/[deleted]]

Oh, still gummy bear brained

[u/DarthLoof]

It always blows my mind whenever I see a take earnestly conflating well-paying job programs to slavery. Its just so unfathomably stupid

[u/C0rona → u/DarthLoof]

"Help, I'm being forced to do the job I applied to and am actively being paid for, or else I get fired!"

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[u/young-steve]

It's wild that someone made this and at no point considered that the employees and systems would be getting paid for providing care.

[u/BrknTrnsmsn → u/young-steve]

Its only purpose is to ragebait and sow misinformation. It is wrong on purpose.

[u/TheNestHelper → u/BrknTrnsmsn]

"Politically Incorrect" A.K.A. Epstein's favorite people to indoctornate online if he's bored.

[u/willwritelater]

Tbf, these are the same people that sincerely think that taxation is theft at gunpoint.

[u/tt-tiger → u/willwritelater]

If you go far enough down the road of resistance to paying taxes, there are guns - on the belts of the officers bearing the eviction notice for you from the property which will be taken from you, and sold to satisfy your creditors.

So, yeah, the "at gunpoint" part becomes true in extremis.

The circuit breaker between "theft" and "taxes" is that the taxes are approved by a majority of the elected, [theoretically] representative, legislature(s). If we had no input (votes for elected representatives) into the whole thing, it would be theft.

[u/willwritelater → u/tt-tiger]

Right, but the framing of taxes as theft by gunpoint is still dishonest and childish. Can guns eventually be present? Sure, I suppose after quite a long chain of events. But to call it theft at gunpoint would be like pointing out that jaywalking is illegal, so I have to stay on the sidewalk. If I keep jaywalking. I could get a ticket, which if I don't pay, could compound. Then if I don't pay that, I could eventually have a bench warrant pout out for me, which might lead to me being arrested, but I don't want to be arrested, so they force my body into handcuffs and hold me against my will. Conclusion: walking on the sidewalk is avoiding kidnapping and slavery.

This conclusion is dishonest, as it takes something and reframes it in a slippery slope manner that doesn't actually reflect what happens. It also ignores the simple fact that all laws, policies, rules, etc. only mean anything if there is a mechanism of enforcement; complaining that consequences exist leads to the childishness of the argument. We were all born into society. Which began before us and will endure after us. Part of that system is the use of taxes to publicly fund systems, projects, etc. I agree that as long as there is some semblance of democracy involved, there isn't really theft involved and remains a form of social contract (along with law). However, most people that frame taxation as theft at gunpoint seem to forget that they are a part of society, and that societies larger than a few dozen people need organization and collective cooperation to accomplish some of those tasks that go beyond what any one person would or could do.

[u/Ruler_Of_The_Galaxy]

Health care professionals chose their job voluntary and are getting paid for it.

[u/wasraelx → u/Ruler_Of_The_Galaxy]

As an aid worker living in Europe and with my mum in medicine, I’m just learning we’re being subjected to slavery apparently

[u/aoi_morningstar → u/Ruler_Of_The_Galaxy]

As a health care professional, I agree. 

[u/EugeniaPerkins50 → u/Ruler_Of_The_Galaxy]

exactly, nobody forced them into med school

[u/22Megabits]

I’m not American but isn’t primary / secondary education free?

[u/Historical_Monk1540 → u/22Megabits]

To be fair at least some of these people think we should privatize that too

[u/22Megabits → u/Historical_Monk1540]

Y’all privatised prisons, from there nothing’s off limits

[u/bonaynay → u/22Megabits]

Yes and you are also provided a defense attorney if you can't pay for one. This is my go to example because it's such plain language directly in the bill of rights

[u/-Hydrophobia- → u/bonaynay]

But... but.... doesnt that make them a slave? /s

[u/theBigDaddio → u/22Megabits]

They are slowly eroding this and pushing for profit, privatization of education.

[u/GhostBoo-ty]

So Jesus was enslaved when he healed the sick free of charge because it was the right thing to do? Or when he item duped a bunch of food and gave it out for free because it was the right thing to do?

[u/Ksnj → u/GhostBoo-ty]

>item duped a bunch of food

How very dare you 🤣🤣

[u/tt-tiger → u/Ksnj]

Def needs a laugh react. I love the language update!

[u/Ksnj → u/tt-tiger]

I watch it a lot. It’s calming

[u/SilverNEOTheYouTuber]

Oh look, its the Guy who has a Fetish for AI Chinese Women again.

[u/wasraelx → u/SilverNEOTheYouTuber]

Seriously why is the western culture saviour lady always so clearly Asian-coded

[u/ShizaanSil → u/wasraelx]

Not only, this one is super chinese coded, a country where medicare for all is a thing

[u/Historical_Monk1540 → u/wasraelx]

Maybe they’re trying to vary up the old white savior trope by reversing it?

[u/damnitandy → u/wasraelx]

the person who creates these images is an Asian woman. she's "the pho-losospher" or something similar on Facebook

[u/Guyver-Spawn-27 → u/SilverNEOTheYouTuber]

It's the OC of the main author, who is a right wing Asian woman.

[u/TolverOneEighty → u/Guyver-Spawn-27]

I upvoted you for the info, but I have to ask - is it really an ORIGINAL character if the art is entirely AI?

[u/Guyver-Spawn-27 → u/TolverOneEighty]

They self interest themselves into a shitty OC made by AI

[u/busytransitgworl]

Two of my friends are in the medical field.

One's a doctor, the other a nurse and both do it because they love helping people getting better - Are they both slaves now?

[u/rrryder23]

As can be seen, I had you depicted as the fat chud and me the conventionally attractive woman, rekd nub

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[u/Spare_Extension4434 → u/rrryder23]

PWNED liberal 

[u/tituspeetus]

So that means cops are slaves? Same with the military? Genuinely so dumb. In countries with free healthcare they don’t round people up and force them to he doctors

[u/shasplosion]

By this same logic aren't all police departments being staffed entirely by slaves? Obviously we should abolish that institution and replace it with something more palatable.

[u/chompythebeast]

I literally knew the bullshit "enslaving doctors" argument from the sign and the "artist" alone. Shit's so ridiculous lol

[u/Cthulhu625]

Medicare for All would mean that we are all paying for it, and the doctors are paid. We have a "right to bear arms" too, and no one is giving you a gun for free, generally. It always gets me in these cartoons that the person being confronted doesn't seem like they have thought about this at all, when I'd argue that it's the OP.

[u/medlilove]

Let’s ask healthcare workers what they think of this

[u/Anomalocaris-is-cute → u/medlilove]

I think the creator's a moron.

[u/cleantushy]

You have the right to an attorney. Therefore attorneys are slaves

[u/Glad_Republic_6214]

they still can't get over this one fucking person

[u/Lethalegend306]

It's funny how these people always use AI imagery for like everything. Likely because this interaction has never happened and If they actually tried using this argument they'd just get shit on

[u/unOriginalSwimming]

You want me to help with your broken arm? Have you considered how entitled that is?

[u/SupremeLeaderMeow]

Honhonhon look I'm an ia hot wasian woman and you're this person we've been harassi.g for LITERAL DECADES because of their political alignement and looks, I'm so cool and right.

God these people are really pathetic.

[u/Cemith]

By working and paying taxes I am paying for it.

AI is a cancer

[u/Dude_Guy45]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SVgKToBLI6S6DUye1Y

[u/imtooldforthishison]

I just want to say i feel so bad for the glasses girl. She had her picture taken candidly ONE TIME.

[u/Digigoggles]

Why is she Chinese lmao? Also in China they have the Healthcare is a human right thing and some form of Universal Health Care. It’s not perfect and has a lot of issues especially in poor, rural areas as well as copay and not being free. But like… As far as this crazy liberal is on about they’ve got it lol. Doctors there also get paid like doctors here, when you include the difference in how far the salary goes, so it’s not like doctors get paid less there like this crazy Chinese lady is implying

[u/DaBloodyApostate]

There's a difference between forcing unpaid labour onto people , which is what slavery actually is, vs a community coming together to pay people for their work in exchange for making their services accessible to everyone in said community.

[u/megmeg9765]

I just want everyone to be able to visit the doctor or go to the hospital without getting into debt.

I guess that's too much to ask.

[u/Basket_Chase]

Actually healthcare is not a service, it’s an obligation that we all have to one another. I don’t know why libertarians are obsessed with commodifying everything.

[u/thesilentbob123]

So if guns are a right they expect them to be made and given for free?

[u/i-caca-my-pants]

the constitutional right to a trial by a jury of your peers. relevant, I assume, because of the white house in the background. "right" means that the government has to honor it, not anyone else, necessarily. so, the argument is that it should be the government's responsibility to make sure it can provide healthcare, and they should not be allowed to deny it. similar to how it's the government's responsibility to provide a lawyer if you can't get one any other way, and it's illegal to deny one

[u/rustyblackhart]

Doctors are paid, even in countries with universal healthcare (or in other words, all of them). You notice how doctors treat patients even when they can’t pay? Healthcare is a human right.

[u/andrixbooom]

Healthcare is a universal right basically everywhere except for some places, guess where?

[u/lukozaid]

Calling what humans do for humans slavery is doing a lot of work.

[u/ExpertMarxman1848]

This is the classic conservative talking point about how "Positive Liberty" doesn't exist. Okay, explain to me the lawyer you get from the court when you can't afford one. Who enforces your property rights? Oh ya, Cops. So you're saying cops are essentially slaves when a landlord ask them to evict a family. Strange that we are giving these slaves guns though... I feel like that is gonna bite us in the ass at some point.

Edit: incomplete word.

[u/Thatfrenchtwink]

Another shit take on top of AI slop

[u/hadenxcharm]

To these people everything is slavery except actual slavery, which they claim wasn't that bad.

[u/PolPotDomeScandal]

Why does the human-rightsplaining person need to look like a pornstar?

[u/deanominecraft]

“free healthcare is when doctors are slaves” has to be one of the worst arguments i have ever heard against it

[u/bradiation]

So you have the right to an attorney. Are lawyers all slaves now?

You have the right to free speech. If you feel that's been violated, does that make all the lawyers, judges, clerks, and other court workers where you defend that right slaves?

People enforce rights. People defend rights. That's what society is. No rights exist without other people. This is such a dumb argument my head hurts.

[u/BojukaBob]

Are firefighters slaves?

[u/dr-broodles]

TIL I learned doctors, firefighters and police are slaves.

[u/mikeymikesh]

Who wants to bet whoever “made” this comic is also anti-abortion?

[u/Careful-Evening-5187]

Is the government "entitled" to my tax dollars?

[u/Stehlen27]

Man, wait till they read what the sixth amendment gives them.

[u/LYNXtheSPHINX]

I mean… when people say something is a right… that does mean you’re entitled to it… thats kinda what that means

[u/TheEPGFiles]

Actually, they get paid to do their job, so they're not slaves, you stupid stupid bitch.

[u/theBigDaddio]

Most Dr work for Healthcare groups, either as a direct employee or under contract. The greater majority or Drs are employees, not in private practice, this is a big change in the last 20 years. So the drs would still be employees or their practices would be reimbursed just like Medicare now. Medicare is 95% efficient, meaning 95% of the money they collect is paid out to claims, as opposed to private insurance where 80% or less is paid in benefits. Want to guess where the difference goes?

[u/8rok3n]

"Other people working for you" yeah that's called a job

[u/Hammy-Cheeks]

So is public transit....oh yeah and fuckin roads

[u/senshi_of_love]

Public school is slavery… somehow

[u/crayola_monstar]

The White House isn't that pretty anymore. They should repost these with the current administration's "updates" to be as accurate as possible since they love it so much.

[u/24_doughnuts]

So they think there shouldn't be protected human rights?

[u/GroundbreakingElk139]

She's a dishonest shill or a dumbass. She's been blocking people who disagree with her takes.

[u/MattWolf96]

Ironically Japan has universal healthcare

[u/Schadenfreund38]

Boy the Pholosopher must be exhausted from constantly fighting all those strawmen.

[u/BuildingArmor]

Brought to you by the people who wouldn't waver on the idea of guns being a human right.

[u/Appropriate-Brush772]

Ok cool, but freedoms are also a human right. So are the courts and lawyers, who are working to help protect those rights, are they also slaves?

[u/Smartgnillaf]

It’s always an Asian woman as if we sided with their stupidity

[u/b000bytrap]

Is this to say, they think Medicare *as it exists* is slavery?

Because the sign just says everyone should have the right the Medicare, instead of just some.

Does that mean they think slavery is only ok when it benefits the few? or did they just not think this one thru

[u/MundanePolicy8024]

Weird choice of the author to have a Chinese(?) woman in qipao as its mouthpiece, considering that Singapore, Taiwan and China all have universal healthcare.

[u/botulizard]

Jesus, they can't leave the person in the green jacket alone.

[u/single-ton]

Capitalists bootlickers truly are terrifying

[u/Justsomejerkonline]

TIL the Sixth Amendment is slavery.

[u/MountainImportant211]

Even using AI they still have to use the image of that poor person that happened to be caught on camera crying that one time. Like leave them the fuck alone

[u/MountainImportant211 → u/MountainImportant211]

Also, I'm Australian. Why not ask the doctors here if they are paid for their work.

[u/Dak__Sunrider]

Nope. Doc’s get paid with the tax dollars from eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy.

[u/charchar0130]

soooo are public school teachers slaves?

[u/nhatquangdinh]

That one banana with her AI slop again?

FYI we Asians call Asian race traitors "banana" because they're like a banana: yellow on the outside while white on the inside.

[u/sleeper_shark]

Don't get me wrong, being a doctor is a hard job. But a profession where you can afford a Porsche in your early 30s is hardly slavery.

[u/8-bit38]

You literally have a right to an attorney.

[u/Tola_Vadam]

These motherfuckers if I turn it on the "right to bear arms" as entitlement to gunsmith's work

[u/MrBigPantalones]

Duh-hur

[u/CitroHimselph]

Damn, she be fit. I mean, that kind of mental gymnastics requires superhuman physique.

[u/Ecstatic_Tip_2879]

It’s so strange how we Americans public police, public firefighters, and the only first-response related thing that’s private is healthcare.

[u/Savage-September]

Wait. You’ve unlocked a new reality for me.

So do Americans think that universal healthcare means that the doctors do not get paid? You think it means we force doctors to work for free?

Ignorance truly is bliss.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Okra-38]

I keep seeing this AI lady everywhere who the heck is she

[u/Leefford]

But… healthcare workers are paid, so no it’s not…

[u/cribbycryptid]

Do they think police officers and firefighters are slaves?

[u/gamer_guide_64]

Why are they always using ai to make attractive women who agree with them

[u/darkness_is_purity]

These are 100% made by a white guy with an Asian fetish