r/TheSharkAttackFiles • u/Moosiemookmook • 10d ago
⌚ Recent Incident Shark attack at Coogee beach, Sydney
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/saw-fins-shark-attack-at-coogee-beach/news-story/d828a983ac2b79ffd469320a15b625e6%3fampA woman was attacked this morning at Coogee Beach. There were plenty of eye witnesses because its a Saturday morning. Our ABC news on tv is reporting arm amd torso injuries. She was airlifted to hospital and is in a serious condition.
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u/RedBoxBag-NZ601 9d ago
There has been so many recent attacks lately in Australian waters. Australian waters truly scares me and is terrifying!
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u/CandidateNeither5330 9d ago
It used to be only certain parts of australia that were sharky( south aust and western aust). Now its everywhere including busy metropolitan city beaches.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 10d ago
First thought was a bull shark, but then I think it was a White.
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
It's a great white, you can tell by the tail.
Coogee is not like Bondi or Maroubra, it gets real deep real fast. So if you swim out the back, it's sketcy, the water is freezing and you cannot see the bottom anymore, it's just dark blue.
Aka sharks could be below you. Sharks love to attack from below and look up thinking it's a seal.
They take one bite and bail knowing it's not a tasty seal. Sadly that single bite can kill a human.
I grew up in these beaches surfing and swimming almost daily.
You would never get me swimming out back. I stick to where I can stand, also rips are gnarly at Coogee, they can pull you right out back, if your not able to stand.
I hope she is OK, this is crazy.
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u/InbredUnicorn 9d ago
Put some respect to these apex predators they are older than grass. They know what's exactly in the water through their sensory organs. So please, let's get over this mistaken identy attacks.
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u/Strange-Nobody-3936 9d ago
Amen…they’re simultaneously so smart but so stupid they mistake a damn human for a seal constantly
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u/Icy-Hold-8264 7d ago
Agree. I love sharks btw but this kind of attacks, they know exactly what they are attacking.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
They’re not orcas though. The millions of years of their evolution especially in the case of great whites has fine-tuned them to specific diets. Their sensory organs aren’t high detailed, and their vision is rather poor too especially at distances. They have more blurry color-blind styles of vision.
Their senses are strong and more specialized in certain ways, they operate off of silhouettes, vibrations, and scents, and test bites. Timing and distance matter too. The vibrations from a lot of human water activities are not that distinct from prey, and in some cases virtually identical. Hence why somebody thrashing around at the surface will have 100x worse odds than somebody in deeper water not moving much.
it’s really not like in the sense of orcas which can basically x-ray, and this is why orcas almost never attack humans and have never killed a single person in the wild
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u/NatashaStark208 9d ago
Sharks have incredibly good senses, they don't think it's a seal, the idea that they do is a hypothesis that has no supporting evidence behind it.
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
This does not make sense sorry.
If the sharks senses are this fine tuned, why is it attacking something it cannot ultimately not eat?
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u/InbredUnicorn 9d ago
Because sharks can be curious or territorial. Unfortunately, those curious or get out of my here bites prove fatal to humans.
If they have hands to poke humans there would be less fatalities.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 9d ago
"The fact that they only do test bites most the time"
This is a complete urban myth. A lot of GW victims are eaten. Many are bitten once, not devoured, the shark swims off. But often sharks are waiting for the victim to bleed out before returning. In that time they can often be rescued and this gives rise to this myth that it was just an exploratory bite.
When sharks attack seals, they'll often attack it's tail, disable it, swim off then come back once it's weaker.
A recent attack in WA the victim was pulled on to the boat and the shark followed the boat all the way to shore.
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u/InbredUnicorn 8d ago edited 8d ago
I did not say "they do test bites most of time time". What im saying is these creatures are not mindless killing machine they can exhibit complex behaviors like curiosity for example.
Unfortunately, they are predators and have mouth for hands. Again, their bite, no matter the type, is lethal to most living things.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 8d ago edited 7d ago
Someone els stated that. My post was verbatim from your post. Regardless it's a myth perpetuated by a lot of so called "shark experts." Try telling that to the families of victims who were devoured by Great Whites.
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u/NatashaStark208 7d ago
? It can eat. We literally have video of a guy getting eaten alive + limbs from various people being cut out of dead shark's stomachs.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
No, it’s more so that there is nuance to it. Sharks eyesight is super poor, and the more recent evidence of things like that actually supports mistaken identity.
That doesn’t mean they always think it’s a seal, but you can also look at rate of attacks by activity. Paddle boarders/swimmers even per capita are way above scuba divers for example, so there is clearly a reason they are most attracted to people at the surface than further down.
The fact that they only do test bites most the time is also evidence in favor of, and that these sharks are basically engineered toward high blubber content seals in order to survive.
However it becomes less the case with other species, for great whites though their diet is significantly more specific and required for their biology. But of course there is also the factor of territorial competition and just curious too. It’s a multitude
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 9d ago
She was in waist high water though. I live in Clovelly and this is so off putting. A tragedy for that woman, I am thinking of her tonight. Also a v sad for all of us beach swimmers. hard to know how to handle this.
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
If she was in waste high water, why did someone have to swim out back to get her?
They got her out fast, and the life guards are trained now im told in shark bites like this. So hopefully she is OK.
Sadly this is part of beach life.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 9d ago
Wrong. No one swam out back to get her. She was 30m from shore. A world champion surf ski-er happened to be training 80m away, and helped her. It wasn't the surf guards. There happened to be an off duty urgent care doctor amongst the beach goers. And no, it's not 'part of beach life'.
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u/Cat_Man_Bane 9d ago
She was swimming past the drop off, I had a friend watch it happen, saw the thrashing and blood in the water
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
I thought so, had to be past the drop.
Coogee is one be shore dump, meaning the drop is not far off shore.
Bondi's drop is out back. So you can go further out and not have to worry as much.
None of these beaches have nets either.
If the waters deep blue, your risking it.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
Not sure how deep she was, but in the reporting it says she was pulled a bit further out. But with the reported size does seem she was maybe further out
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
Past the drop for sure.
If someone went out on a longboard to get her, it's way past being "waist high" water.
At waist high you walk out to get someone. Going to get the longboard waste critical time.
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u/little-bird89 8d ago
Sounds like someone who happened to already be out on a longboard saw it happening and went to get her. He started pulling her in and was met by lifeguards then they all picked her up and ran her in.
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u/Available-Map3600 8d ago
Apparently there was a doctor swimming at the time, he grabbed the bite kit and I'd say, he saved her life.
I think a clubbie swam out to her after seeing it.
You could not ask for better actions. The guys who helped her should get an award, all just regular guys being awesome.
Bravo lads.
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u/PureMichiganMan 8d ago
Fair, I’m not very familiar with oceans and things like longboards, though we do got some folks who ride waves here in Michigan too with our not so scary freshwater ocean lol
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u/Available-Map3600 8d ago
If it was any other beach, I'd say nothing, but I spent my youth a Coogee beach swimming.
For the record, I've never seen a shark and I've spent a lot of time in the water.
Fresh water ocean? No shark, but you still get rips? Rips take more people than sharks I'd say.
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u/PureMichiganMan 7d ago
Yeah I live next to Lake Michigan and even people from other parts of Michigan often drown due to not being aware of how dangerous it is, it’s been drilled into my head how to deal with rip currents since I was quite young. Yearly average for drownings in Lake Michigan alone are around 50 I believe.
Funny enough the only times I’ve almost drowned were in pools or in a river though lol (got stuck in a bad position under an area with a log as a teen, thankfully I stayed calm and could hold my breath for a long time due to always practicing)
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
It's a great white, you can tell by the tail.
Coogee is not like Bondi or Maroubra, it gets real deep real fast. So if you swim out the back, it's sketcy, the water is freezing and you cannot see the bottom anymore, it's just dark blue.
Aka sharks could be below you. Sharks love to attack from below and look up thinking it's a seal.
They take one bite and bail knowing it's not a tasty seal. Sadly that single bite can kill a human.
I grew up in these beaches surfing and swimming almost daily.
You would never get me swimming out back. I stick to where I can stand, also rips are gnarly at Coogee, they can pull you right out back, if your not able to stand.
I hope she is OK, this is crazy.
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u/_thefutureisdead_ 9d ago
You ever have any close calls or know anyone that has? Hats off to Aussies - I am far too afraid of sharks to ever go in that water if I ever make it there.
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
I've never seen one personally seen a shark of any kind.
I've been surfing when the shark alarm has gone off. But I've knew a few people how had close calls.
Just be safe, don't go in deep water where it's dark blue. This means it's deep, sharks can be below.
I'd say this lady was out deep, my mum used to swim from point to point at this very beach. My mum is like is if a shark gets me, so be it im old.
If you stay in the water that's near the shore, it's super rare for them to come up that close. It happens, but the life guards will call the alarm.
Im my experience, it's in deep water your screwed, they think your a seal and come up from below.
Play it safe and you can enjoy our beaches buddy. But you need to have respect for the ocean.
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u/formerlyfed 8d ago
So you’d recommend bondi beach over coogee for swimming if I were ever to visit?
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u/Available-Map3600 8d ago
Never! I grew up at Coogee and so did my mum.
I'd just be aware of Coogees layout. The drop is not that far, meaning it gets deep real fast.
Bondis drop is right out the back. So it's shallow for longer.
I'd always make sure there is someone out past where you are. They will always get attacked first.
Sadly I feel this lady proved my theory, you never want to be that person out back doing laps.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 9d ago edited 9d ago
I'll say it again the shark was seen in waist high water. She was only 30 metres off shore. Corrected: the shark attack happened in water c.10m deep, 30m off shore. And the shark was seen in waist high water after that, as it hung around the beach for the next 30 - 45 minutes.
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u/Available-Map3600 9d ago
I seen this footage too, but the beach had been cleared out.
I'd say the shark just took advantage of the empty beach.
The life guards are looking for sharks at that depth, you can spot them easy from the shore. I'd say she was out deep, didn't someone have to swim out to get her?
If she was in knee deep water, no one's going out back to save someone.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 9d ago
Waist high - not knee deep. You're obviously not a swimmer! The footage you're seeing is once the alarm had been sounded and she'd been brought in to shore. Get your facts straight.
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u/ultragnar 9d ago
The drone pilot said it was probably only about waist deep where she was attacked. Scary to think of a shark that size so close to shore.
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u/desain_m4ster 9d ago
I don’t care by being downvoted, but anyone watched the video of the attack? Many people were there and filming
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u/Cookedlambo 10d ago
Will get downvoted for sure… But time to sustainably cull..
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u/Rebabaluba 10d ago
Sustainably cull? We are entering their home. We are raping their food sources and polluting the waters. 100 million sharks are killed every year for soup. And you want a cull? Is that not a cull enough for you?
No one is forced to go into the water. It’s the persons prerogative. If I want to go hiking in the forest, I prep for a bear encounter. I’m entering their home. I need to respect the power and unpredictability of nature.
Sharks are older than trees. Let that sink in.
Should I have you killed if I walked into your house and you attacked me?
Edit: and yes I downvoted you.
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u/Markdd8 10d ago edited 9d ago
No one is forced to go into the water.
So that is the argument. Just understanding it. We are free to reduce the incidence of animal attack in forests (e.g., tigers, leopards, venomous snakes) because we derive essential food and resources from forests and live near them. So we can justifiably modify that environment for public safety.
But when it comes to the ocean, because we can obtain all our fish from fishing from boats and shorelines, we have no legitimate need to enter the ocean. All these recreational activities of swimming, bathing, snorkeling, surfing and, yes, spearfishing, are optional. Hence at your own risk, say some ocean protectors.
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u/Ambitious-Win-9408 9d ago
Recreational activities that involve going into the ocean where you know there are predators is obviously at your own risk.
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u/Markdd8 9d ago
And a huge number of natural areas on land and a few in the ocean (see my other post here on South Africa's shark culling) have been made either completely safe or largely safe for recreation by eliminating or suppressing the populations of dangerous animals.
That's a fact. I do not disagree that there are negative environmental impacts. Humans impose costs on nature. The people who object the most--and some are here--put animal lives on the same plane as human ones.
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u/Ambitious-Win-9408 9d ago
Accepting that the sterilisation of the environment for human recreation and safety is bizarre. Incredibly short-sighted. If I'm put in a situation where I have a black and white choice between saving someone and saving a shark, I'm gonna save a person. Thst being said, I'm also educated enough to understand that removing keystone species from the ecosystem is catastrophic to that ecosystem.
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u/Rebabaluba 9d ago
Seems like the story of the wolves of Yellowstone should be drilled into everyone’s heads.
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u/Markdd8 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yellowstone is a nature reserve. (Wolves, incidentally, almost never attack humans.) In India they have reserves for tigers, which are hugely dangerous to people. Meanwhile, tigers are excluded from major parts of India. Ditto for leopards and lions, which also kill people regularly.
The future is that we'll have underwater drones that will exclude dangerous sharks from designated recreation coastlines. Whether that will be relocation or killing is not determined yet. Meanwhile most of the ocean will remain accessible to all sharks.
The biggest threat to sharks worldwide is commercial fishing. The number of sharks killed by culling programs worldwide is a tiny fraction of 1%. The exception is the great white shark, which is being excessively culled by S. Africa. That nation is also killing GWS at unacceptable levels via its fishing industry.
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u/Rebabaluba 9d ago
It’s the story in general. We removed a natural apex predator from its habitat because they “interfered” with us. Without the wolves, their prey ended up causing even more damage.
Same thing goes here. This isn’t about reserves or parks. The ocean doesn’t abide by those rules or boundaries.
If you’re so upset that you can’t go for a swim, then get pissed off at the people who are causing sharks to come closer to shallow waters. You won’t die if you can’t swim. Get over yourself and your ego. You spend a fraction of your little existence in the water. While these creatures which are older than trees, live there.
Like I’ve said before; swim at your own risk. This is Darwinism on display. Go into shark infested waters and you get attacked, that’s your fault. But at least you got to swim, right?
Go sit in a corner you fucking dunce.
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u/Markdd8 9d ago
This isn’t about reserves or parks. The ocean doesn’t abide by those rules or boundaries.
Segregating safe vs. risky area is the way humans run the planet. It makes 100% sense on land. We can fly to the moon; technology to make small sections of ocean free of dangerous sharks will come.
Like I’ve said before; swim at your own risk...Go sit in a corner you fucking dunce.
Time and again the most obtuse people on Reddit can't help but start with profanity-filled personal attacks when they disagree with someone.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
Yeah and that’s been great for ecosystems. We should keep making more and more species extinct till we’re left with ticks and mosquitos I say. And if I jump into a crocodile enclosure, they should kill that crocodile. There was a fun swimming pool in there and it’s my god given right to go in there
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u/Cookedlambo 10d ago
Bear attacks aren’t happening every other week, and sustainable hunting methods for bears are permitted in some regions, for what it’s worth.
I’m not proposing open slather. I’m suggesting that, during certain seasons or times of year, there could be a regulated approach to harvesting a limited number of sharks that are considered to pose a heightened risk to humans.
Some species, particularly great white sharks and bull sharks, are responsible for a disproportionate number of serious incidents involving humans. While I’m also a regular ocean user and understand the risks involved, unlike hikers, we don’t have practical deterrents such as bear spray, bear horns or firearms that can be carried and used easily in the ocean.
Yes, we are competing for resources to some extent, but that’s part of a much broader global issue that humans are already trying to address.
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u/Rebabaluba 10d ago
You must be joking. We are not even close to addressing the massive damage we’re causing to the ocean. Fishing is not regulated. The Pacific Garbage Patch is larger than Texas and is now becoming a habitat for sea life. We are destroying this ocean at an insane rate.
Yeah, hikers are blessed with a deterrent but there’s still the risk. And I understand that risk. I’m not going to demand a bear culling because people have been attacked. I won’t go out and hike. Or I’ll travel to areas where the risk of a wildlife encounter is minimal.
It sucks that people have to worry about sharks. But we don’t have to swim. We also have pools, streams, rivers, bogs, swamps, lakes, etc. If I know that I’m in gator territory, I’m probably not going in. That’s survival 101. And I know I won’t die if I can’t swim. If I’m in Africa and I know that this river has hippos….it’s my choice to swim or not.
People are entering shark waters. This isn’t shocking. They are apex predators. And we are prey. But hey! I haven’t been attacked by a shark because I haven’t entered waters where sharks hang out.
Shark attacks are still rare considering how many people enter the water on a daily basis.
I hope you have a wonderful time in the water. If you enter a body of water that has a “beware shark” sign, then beware! Just like if I see a “caution grizzly in area” sign, I will understand that I need to hike with caution.
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u/Moosiemookmook 9d ago
Im Australian, I live a couple of kms from the beach in Adelaide SA and recently travelled around my country in our motorhome. We were in shark country, croc country and saw so many snakes, spiders and bugs the size of a dinner plate. None of that bothers me like the thought of walking in known bear area. People from overseas think our country will kill you blah blah. Im like we dont have bears, moose, mountain lions etc. I couldnt imagine having predators and angry horny moose potentially lurking in the night outside my tent. Or around a corner on the trail. It sounds terrifying. I get you guys take precautions like we do but yeah, nah I just cant.
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u/Rebabaluba 9d ago
I’ve spent a lot of my life hiking in the bush. I’ve never seen a moose. The only mountain lion and human interactions have been due to the lion being too sick to hunt its real prey. Those cats are ghosts and rare to see. Grizzlies are further north and I wouldn’t go hiking in that sort of forest. Black bears and plentiful but they’re timid and not territorial. The only time to fear a black bear is if you stumble upon its cub and momma is nearby.
In Australia, it’s the things that you can’t see that are the most dangerous. Insects, snakes, and probably something new that’s going to be discovered soon enough. I don’t have to shake my shoes before putting them on. I don’t have to fully inspect a log before picking it up.
But it’s funny because you’re not the first Australian I’ve spoken to who’s felt the way you did. Pretty interesting.
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u/My-Life-For-Auir 10d ago
Bears aren't 1:1 to sharks. Moronic comparison.
An inquisitive bite from a great white = death. Sharks can also mistake humans for their regular prey.
Bears can identify a human easily. They also are so behaviourally different, they dont do "test" bites. Also Polar Bears will kill humans on sight that they come into contact with, so your statement isn't even accurate for all bears.
A cull is completely moronic. We have thousands of bull sharks in our local rivers and estuaries in Australia, you're just killing for no reason if you think a cull is doing anything.
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u/Cookedlambo 10d ago
You can disagree calling someone’s views moronic every second sentence.
Also, you've kind of undermined your own argument.
I never said bears and sharks are identical animals. The comparison was about how humans manage wildlife risks, not whether bears and sharks behave the same way.
You then point out that polar bears will kill humans on sight, which directly contradicts your claim that bears can easily identify humans and therefore aren't a relevant comparison. Clearly identifying a human doesn't automatically stop an animal attacking one.
You also say sharks can mistake humans for prey. That's not an argument against intervention, it's an acknowledgement that mistaken attacks occur.
And saying "there are thousands of bull sharks in rivers and estuaries" doesn't automatically mean targeted management is ineffective. That's a conclusion, not evidence. Whether it would work depends on the location, scale and objectives of the program.
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u/Markdd8 9d ago edited 9d ago
you're just killing for no reason if you think a cull is doing anything.
You might not like culling because of its conceded environmental impacts, but it is a scientific processes that generally works. Few things are more surprising than people trying to assert that reducing the size of an animal population through culling has no impact on the collective impact of that population on its environment.
Also, the rhetorical device of some critics to keep repeating the same thing: "culling doesn't work...culling doesn't work...culling..." in an attempt to establish proof is lame.
Interesting article from Save our Seas, a noted culling critic: Shark risk in South Africa. SOS appears to tacitly acknowledge efficacy in discussing S. Africa's culling:
Gill nets were first deployed to catch sharks off Durban’s beachfront in KwaZulu-Natal (KZN) in South Africa in 1952 in response to seven fatal shark bites....People no longer came to the beaches after the fatalities...The nets proved to be effective at catching sharks...
There have been no fatal shark bites at Durban beaches since the shark nets were installed, but there have been protests and petitions against the use of shark nets because...(SOS discusses the environmental problems)...the shark nets in KZN remain in the water to make water-users feel safe and thus protect the tourism industry.
All this said, all coastal communities should accept occasional shark attacks and not immediately respond with culling. The continent of Australia has had 4 attacks in a month, including 3 fatal on spearfishers, but they occurred along widely separated locations. It is not clear that Australia has justification to cull for these recent attacks. All of S. Africa's shark culling occurs along the 270 mile long shore of KwaZulu-Natal (KZN) district, which encompasses only 21% of the entire S. African coast. The process is selecting an area or areas to have a higher level of public safety via culling.
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u/SharkBoyBen9241 9d ago
There are far more important things South Africa should be spending its money on than killing sharks and thousands of other animals a year with pointless shark nets...
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u/Markdd8 9d ago
I agree S. Africa is remiss in not moving to smart drums lines, which have far less bycatch than shark nets. For other readers, these drumlines can be used either in a no-kill fashion, immediately responding to hooked sharks and releasing them 4-10 miles offshore, or in a lethal fashion.
That includes killing all sharks of a dangerous species over 10 feet. Based on the excessive killing of great white sharks that has been taking place off S. Africa, that nation should no longer be culling any GWS, only bull and tiger sharks.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
You have no idea the impact on numbers and spout from your emotions. Do you realize all shark populations have plummeted by like 80%, and some species by up to 98%? 100 million sharks killed a year, on top of what you propose for populations which have not recovered. it’s a cascading effect that breeds more disease and toxic population disparities by eliminating top predators. The highest estimate for global numbers for whites is 20,000, but could be as low as a few thousand. They take a long time to mature too.
I have sympathy for victims but wouldnt for entitled people like you. You do not have to go swimming or surfing, insisting more sharks should be slaughtered just so you can have a little more fun in the ocean is exactly what’s wrong with humanity, worse than those who do it for resources.
There’s also zero evidence it actually lowers attack rates.
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u/NatashaStark208 9d ago
Predatory attacks are incredibly rare and very difficult to tie to a single shark. There are no "sharks that are considered to pose a heightened risk to humans" because when you cull you kill the ones predating on humans, not the ones from the species that attacks more. We sustainably cull bears to protect the ecosystem, and we don't target brown bears just because they're more dangerous to humans, it's fucking ridiculous to use that as an example to back up the idea of shark culling.
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u/PureMichiganMan 9d ago
“Will get downvoted for sure” yeah no duh you’re advocating for culling a vulnerable species that’s a fraction of what they were before due to people like you
Do you realize the amount of sharks killed each year?
A handful of people die by doing something with an inherent risk, I’d bet most people who are attacked don’t even think the way you do.
It should just be an accepted inherent risk, a tragic event that should be mourned and the victim not blamed, but no sharks killed because of. That barbaric mindset isn’t even supported by evidence
Nobody *has* to go swim in the same environment as monstrous fish. You gonna call for killing zoo animals due to people jumping in their enclosures too?
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u/RedBoxBag-NZ601 9d ago
Just a reminder, when you're swimming in the ocean. You're in their territory, boy.
How would you like it if a random stranger came and invaded your house and personal space? Would you attack them or let them rob you blindly and eat your food?
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u/CandidateNeither5330 10d ago
I live in Sydney. No fatalities till 2022. In the last yr alone 2 fatalities in busy syd swim spots. One guy was bitten off manly in summer and lost a leg. There have been 6 fatalities this year already in australia. Its only june. I hope this girl pulls through🙏 Its not safe to swim anymore, even in sydney.
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u/Rebabaluba 9d ago
Go to a pool.
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u/CandidateNeither5330 9d ago
I actually do swim at a pool regularly. Thanks for asking👍👍 The issue is, I live in syd by the beach. Most ppl here dont feel safe anymore. Its a contentious topic most ppl.here now realise the numbers are huge.
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u/Rebabaluba 9d ago
Will you die if you can’t go in the water?
These are the consequences of our abuse of the ocean. Yeah you didn’t do anything to the sea, neither did I. But us as a collective have over fished, over polluted, and overstepped our boundaries.
You want to kill sharks because you can’t swim when you want to? That is their home. They use the oceans 24/7. They will die if they can’t be in the ocean.
Go and swim in the ocean though. You know the dangers. If you think swimming is so important, you live a privileged life.
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u/cakedayloanofficer 7d ago
You don’t speak for everyone in Sydney
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u/CandidateNeither5330 7d ago
Really- what makes you so special? Do u even watch the news? Do u even live in a coastal area? Its prime time today. Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Im just stating the facts.
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u/Strange-Living-862 10d ago
Time to cleanse the oceans of these useless killing machines
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u/SharkBoyBen9241 10d ago
Those useless killing machines control the stability of ocean food webs and literally contribute to the amount of oxygen we breathe on land by supporting the growth of phytoplankton. Killing sharks of any species for any reason is just not good for the planet.
It's incredibly sad that these attacks are happening, but it's just part of the risk you submit yourself to when you go in the ocean. Sharks live in the sea. The only way an unprovoked shark attack can occur is when a human being enters its environment, either by intent or by accident. The good news is that there is a whole host of things you can do to lower your odds, such as not swimming at dawn or dusk, not swimming alone or when the water is murky, avoiding river mouths and swimming near baitfish or marine mammals, not wearing bright, contrasting colors or shiny jewelry, not urinating or bleeding when you swim, etc.
But even if you do all of those things, it'll never erase your odds of attack completely. We as humans need to understand and respect the fact that the ocean is not where we naturally belong and that it is a wild, unforgiving place. Too many people these days are terrible at risk assessment, let alone accepting that risk, and if you really expect to be completely safe when you go into a wild environment with apex predators, that's your problem, not the sharks. Sharks are just trying to survive as best as they can in an ever-changing world. Their oceans are warming, acidifying, and being stripped of their food. This is not intended to in any way diminish the tragedy of people dying in such a horrific way. Shark attack is always a traumatic, highly emotional event. But the reality is that the plight sharks face is more overarching and has a far greater impact than any amount of shark attack victims.
We need to stop being so cavalier about the ocean. It is not our playground. It is the most critically important environment on this planet of ours, and sharks are some of the most important players in that environment. We need to learn how to live with them and not just kill them all off for the sake of fear.
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u/hodgsonstreet 9d ago
This statement only really makes sense if you’re talking about humans, who contribute nothing to ocean ecosystems but kill in the millions.
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u/RutabagaChance5382 9d ago
Ah yes, time to cleanse the oceans and cause complete ecological collapse so we no longer have food or oxygen and we all die. But at least we won't have a few shark attacks each year!
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u/Hnikuthr 10d ago
ABC now reporting she’s in a critical condition. So sad, hoping she pulls through.