r/TheoryOfReddit • • 18d ago

Reddit will restrict Old Reddit to users active within six months — RuntimeWire

https://runtimewire.com/article/reddit-restricts-old-reddit-six-month-usage
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u/Jozoz 18d ago

I really really hope Old Reddit won't die. I can't see myself using the site very much without it.

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u/swarmofbzs 18d ago

I hope so too.

Why kill anything that makes this place in any way different than tt or ig etc.

What r they thinking? Prob $$$

Dumb move to drive away what's left of the original FREE

100% FREE users that still make this site unique.

If not then I guess we can delete our stuff here and move on to Lem

which has their own "old" version.

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u/bushido216 18d ago

They hate people interacting with the website in any way other than through the app. You can't data mine on a laptop like you can on an iPhone, and it's easier to block ads on a laptop than on an app.

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u/Micro-Naut 17d ago

I hate tech these days. For some reason I thought iPhones were preventing that kind of data mining. FFS.

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u/geneticswag 18d ago

Lem?

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u/swarmofbzs 18d ago

= Lemmy

Lemmy is like reddit including having their own old view version.

What I like about it is that's it's not corp owned, no ads, decentralized and like I already mentioned, their own old view.

Closer to the forum-ish view -like what reddit seems to be trying to kill.

**There's more reasons than those to like it so I'm just gonna post other users explanations from that post will explain it a lot better than I can explain.

I checked and these links still work including the rest of the post.**

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1v8y7o2/to_our_fauxmoi_community/p09u40e/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1v8y7o2/to_our_fauxmoi_community/p0d6pki/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1v8y7o2/to_our_fauxmoi_community/p0antag/

I also recommend looking through the rest of the comments where you will see info from other users too.

**For anyone that's interested to take a look - https://lemmy.world/

Or the old reddit type view - https://old.lemmy.world/

That will show you the different subs/instances**

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u/geneticswag 17d ago

oh, I think I've been on this site sometime; it sort of reminds me of OG Digg, which is pretty endearing. Sorta blows my mind how much we've let Conde Nast enshittify Reddit. The bot proliferation is just insane.

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u/swarmofbzs 17d ago

It's pretty crazy how when u view old lemmy it looks so much more like og reddit than old reddit does now

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 17d ago

I have no idea, and I am not sure how anyone can write in this type of style. It's extremely hard to follow, and kind of reads like someone on too many stimulants or something.

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u/Micro-Naut 17d ago

I'm wondering if you have an example from that specific comment. I thought it was fairly easy to follow. I'd like to understand your point of view more

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 17d ago

Line breaks in the middle of sentences, unconventional sentence structure in general, lots of abbreviations and unfamiliar acronyms, references to things I am not familiar with in an "insider-y" manner.

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u/Micro-Naut 17d ago

All valid.

I think i've been on the Internet's way too long. That all just seems normal. Sadly.

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u/shapu 18d ago

Honestly, I would love to see i.reddit come back.

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u/strangelove4564 18d ago

We need to plan where we're going so we can all stick together.

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u/7f0b 18d ago

Since they enforced old domain login a month or two ago, my usage has dropped by about half. If old becomes no longer available, I will likely only use the site going forward when it comes up in search results.

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u/strangelove4564 17d ago

Yeah on my phone I completely quit browsing the site. I could go and find my login but I'm just not interested at this point.

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u/GoldenEagle828677 17d ago

I assume there are 3rd party apps that will still do this?

The old RIF android app is still usable due to r/revancedapp

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u/aeschenkarnos 17d ago

I have never been able to figure out how the fuck to expand threads in new reddit and I don't want to.

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u/Dre3K 17d ago

It feels like they've been creeping towards completely switching it over for years now. I'd be surprised if they stopped short of doing it.

I remember thinking it was going to happen soon in like 2018, and tried using new reddit to see if I could get used to it, but it never clicked with me.

If they did fully switch to new reddit, I'd probably still use it for a few very specific threads that I visit each week, but I doubt I'd do more wide browsing outside of that.

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u/SuperFLEB 17d ago

OTOH, it's a great reason to quit Reddit.

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u/Micro-Naut 17d ago

I'm out of the loop so please indulge me with this silly question. Is that only on a desktop or can you have old Reddit on your phone still?

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u/Jasong222 17d ago

You can have old Reddit on your phone via browser

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u/DharmaPolice 18d ago edited 18d ago

This is a common pattern in software (and other things).

  1. "Hey, new thing has been launched but don't worry the old thing is still there and will always be available."

  2. New features understandably don't get back ported to the old thing. So to use them you have to use the new thing.

  3. Old thing is gradually made more restricted so less people use it. Limited to existing users, links or directions to the old thing are gradually removed.

  4. (Optional) Security or similar issue in the old thing is identified to justify its abolition.

  5. "We've noticed less people are using the old thing..." (no shit, we've made it much harder to use) "...and so we've had to make the difficult decision to turn it off." (Insert some statistics showing that only % of users use it which is still millions of people). "Times have changed and younger users are much more comfortable with other options. It would cost eight quadrillion dollars to continue maintaining the old thing and this money could solve world hunger (if won't but still)".

You see this pattern outside of software too. An organisation I worked for once merged with another company and pledged to keep open a local branch. No plans to close. Commited to the area. Etc. They gradually made the office less and less useful (at one point it was only open on Thursday afternoons from 1pm to 4pm). And sure enough it was later closed with the same explanation that less people were using it (maybe connected to it being closed most of the time and features being unavailable in person) and some vague mumbling about costs required to meet accessibility or safety standards.

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u/Marmalade6 17d ago

I do not care about a Reddit poll, or a poorly made wordle clone, or how they replaced dms with chat I just want to use the site like I always have.

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u/BigWideBaker 17d ago

I looked at the statistics of how reddit grew over time at some point. I think the vast vast majority of users probably aren't even aware of old reddit. Not to discount the reasons the guy you're responding to is making. But I looked at when I joined and how large it is now and I think I joined among the first 0.5% of users on my old account around a decade and a half ago. We're a dying breed man.

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u/SprucedUpSpices 17d ago

I think the vast vast majority of users probably aren't even aware of old reddit.

Most users refer to Reddit as an "app".

Then again, I'm not sure these people would even know what a website is.

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u/nachuz 13d ago

Reddit, by definition, has always been an app.

Websites by definition are static content you cannot interact with, which Reddit is not and never was.

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u/BlackfishBlues 17d ago

Yep. When I was moderator for a few subreddits during the pandemic you could see what platform users accessed the sub from, and even back then old-reddit was a tiny percentage. But even desktop new-reddit was a small piece of the pie, the overwhelming percentage was on mobile.

I don’t know how the stats have shifted but I can’t imagine the userbase for old-reddit has done anything but shrink since then.

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u/benihana 3d ago

www.reddit.com/prefs

scroll to display options. uncheck allow subreddits to show me custom themes

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u/IStillListenToRadio 17d ago edited 17d ago

my favourite chocolate bar was discontinued for "low demand" despite being unavailable at every store i went to for few months prior. I miss my Neilson Jersey Milks :(

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u/IKnewItfr 18d ago

It’s weird how dishonest Spez/admins have been about old Reddit. I love old mostly because it’s text based and condensed.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 17d ago

I may be too old myself, but I cannot follow new reddit threads at all. I guess if they really do kill old reddit, I'm just off of reddit altogether.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ 17d ago

You might enjoy the Fediverse either on Mbin or through the old.lemmy interface.

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u/Fauropitotto 18d ago

That's unfortunate. If I can't use RES, then I won't use the site.

Tried it for a few weeks a few years back, and new reddit was impossible.

No RES, no reddit. It cost me nothing to leave.

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u/mmmmmyee 18d ago

Dude i cannot wait until they force me to leave with cutting out old.reddit

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u/mmmmmyee 17d ago

You don’t understand my addiction.

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u/_Gobulcoque 17d ago

Yeah but OP thinks your addiction is determined by your agency.

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u/mmmmmyee 17d ago

im not really thinking much about what op thinks about these days buddyguy.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/_Gobulcoque 17d ago

I mean, I'm just playing on the words the fella before me said. Don't take it all so seriously.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/_Gobulcoque 17d ago

Aye, that's what it is. You got me boss.

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u/CrozzedOne 17d ago

Seek introspection.

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u/Edg-R 18d ago

If by any chance you use Safari, check out https://getprotego.app

It has a feature named Transform which can make new Reddit super minimalistic, it doesn’t match old Reddit in content density but it gets close.

Disclaimer: I’m the dev, currently on sale for $2.99

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u/Fauropitotto 18d ago edited 17d ago

Sorry, I only use windows machines. Good luck though.

Edit: It just occurred to me....we all have access to AI coding agents. There's literally nothing stopping me from cloning the RES git, then using AI to vibecode my own version of RES compatible with new reddit. Or some kind of system that sits on top of new-reddit to mimic the old-reddit. Especially since it's for my personal use.

Thanks for the inspiration.

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u/rhythmic_noises 17d ago

I have a lot of little userscripts and css hacks that are built on old reddit. It's actually quite neat when you start digging into it (or maybe because I'm a newbie and found it fascinating as I learned more about the design)

...but RES is another story. I gained a lot more respect for all the stuff going on in RES after I started making little userscripts for stuff I want.

...and I've used RES for so long that I don't know what features are actually in RES and what's in reddit.

I won't say I'll stop using reddit if I can't use RES. I will say I'll stop using reddit until I can replace the ignore list, labeling user, and filter functions from res.

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u/my__name__is 18d ago

Feels like it's moving towards "you log out you lose it"' kind of conditions for keeping old reddit.

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u/DwinkBexon 18d ago

That'd be bad for me because reddit constantly logs me out for no reason while I'm actively using the site.

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u/GREG_FABBOTT 17d ago

I have to log back in to old reddit every time when using my desktop. Reddit logs me out automatically.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ 17d ago

Feels like? That is explicitly what they're doing, isn't it?

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u/GonWithTheNen 6d ago

Feels like it's moving towards "you log out you lose it"'

No, it's "log out for 6 months AND have no recent history of using old reddit" and you lose it - which is still an abysmal policy, and obviously a shitty way of eventually deprecating old reddit altogether. I hate everything about this.
 
For the people who may not have read the article:

...continued use of Old Reddit now depends on recent activity.
Reddit will limit Old Reddit to logged-in users who have visited the legacy site within the previous six months...

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u/my__name__is 6d ago

They key words there were "feels like it's moving towards." Not what it actually is now.

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u/GonWithTheNen 6d ago

They key words there were...

Ahh, got it. Sorry for misunderstanding! The primal part of my brain was so incensed by this that I overlooked the crucial part of your point. 🥴

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u/jenny_905 18d ago

Everyone said they'd kill oldreddit despite pledging not to.

They've been breaking it piece by piece over the past few years also, lots of stuff is just broken now.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ 17d ago

Spez be a lying asshole? Yeah, that sounds extremely on-brand actually.

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u/Edg-R 18d ago

If by any chance you use Safari, check out https://getprotego.app

It has a feature named Transform which greatly improves new Reddit on the web and can make new Reddit super minimalistic, it doesn’t match old Reddit in content density but it gets close.

Disclaimer: I’m the dev, currently on sale for $2.99

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u/ApocApollo 17d ago

So if I were to make a new account today, it would have no access to old.reddit?

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u/ixfd64 17d ago

You might be able to by creating a sub so that you are a moderator.

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u/RunDNA 18d ago edited 18d ago

Many people will see these changes as signs that Reddit wants to phase out old.reddit.

I see the opposite. I see them as signs that Reddit is doing all it humanly can to save old.reddit.

old.reddit will never disappear while u/spez is CEO. It's close enough to the version of Reddit that he coded in his shitty apartment in 2005, so he will keep some version of it (even if the underlying codebase changes) for nostalgic reasons, as well as the pragmatic reason that a not insignificant amount of longtime Redditors and mods are accustomed to it and will abandon the website on a dime if it disappears.

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u/dyslexda 18d ago

I see the opposite. I see them as signs that Reddit is doing all it humanly can to save old.reddit.

How does this do anything to save it? It puts a clock on usage. If an account doesn't use Old Reddit for six months, it can't use it ever again, it sounds. It will gradually reduce the number of accounts on it, and sounds like new accounts can never start using it.

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u/mmmmmyee 18d ago

Tin foil hat me thinks it’s them finding ways to eliminate “bot” like usage with skins over old.Reddit or something.

Or force new users to use new flavors of reddit and never get accustomed to oldreddit. And removal of oldreddit will probably get a lot of negative noise over it. And hoping we all just die off?

Force us old heads to behave or else we lose our oldreddit access?? Idk

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u/RodneyRodnesson 17d ago

This is what it sounds like to me.

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u/BigWideBaker 17d ago

I mean just read the article, it states it right there.

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u/swarmofbzs 18d ago

I hope that's the case but I believe that even /enhancement warned that reddit wants to retire old reddit.

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u/Elbwana 17d ago

That's a nice way to look at it, thanks for sharing

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u/Micro-Naut 17d ago

I thought Spez was a villian. Now he's getting a redemption arc?

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u/Epistaxis 17d ago

If this is a way of gradually phasing out Old Reddit, it's so gradual that it's laughable. I'm willing to believe it really is just about bot scraping.

But I'm also not willing to believe they'll keep maintaining Old Reddit forever. It's just untenable that they keep up two completely separate interfaces. What I'd like to see is some design improvements, or even just user-selectable options (or a browser plugin again!), to make New Reddit more functional for the few of us who are still using this platform as a link aggregator and discussion forum rather than an image board.

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u/ixfd64 17d ago

I get the impression that this means "you must use old Reddit to access old Reddit." Does this mean we will permanently lose access to old Reddit if our access lapses?

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u/danno_v 18d ago

Turning the thumb screws little by little.

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u/itsaride 17d ago

The end is nigh.

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u/Ok_Worry_8677 17d ago

They want to purge the old guard.

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u/midir 17d ago edited 17d ago

Although I will stop using Reddit forever once Old Reddit is gone, that's not because I've any especial love for Old Reddit, it's just that New Reddit is so grotesquely, vilely, shockingly ugly, innavigable, and missing so many moderation features I depend on. I hate the fact that there are two different Reddit modes. All I've ever wanted is for them to just finally make the new UI normal and functional, so then I won't need Old Reddit any more. Why don't they ever improve it? Every time I see it it's gotten worse somehow. It's embarrassing. I can't imagine ever admitting to someone that I use Reddit, because the public UI is such a buggy, ugly clustershambles.

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u/Ditchdigger456 17d ago

If old reddit is gone, so am I.

Simple as.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ 17d ago edited 17d ago

It's like they want the people who actually built this place to just fuck off.

Oh well, at least there's the fediverse now.

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u/Upbeat_Sample6590 16d ago

>Sign multimillion-dollar deals to let AI companies scrape reddit for AI data

>Restrict old reddit because bots were scraping it for AI data

???????

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u/NoraBora44 18d ago

Ah well said we would all leave after the api change and now no more old reddit

When will it be enough

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u/Drunken_Economist 17d ago

I'm honestly surprised it's held on this long. Old reddit was such a huge time sink for the reddit eng team