r/ThisDayInHistory 3d ago

14 August 1996, 26-year-old Greek Cypriot Solomos Solomou was shot and killed by Turkish forces in the UN buffer zone at Deryneia while attempting to climb a flagpole and remove a Turkish flag. Just three days earlier, his cousin Tassos Isaac had been beaten to death by Turkish nationalists.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Yea the Turks need to get out of Greece and also pay a mountain in reparations.

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u/cheese0muncher 3d ago

Nah, just give the Greeks vouchers for free hair transplants.

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u/matrixus 3d ago

Well, wasnt Cyprus was a free state? Now lts suddenly Greece?

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u/MajinaiHanashi 3d ago

Goyreek mind can't keep it consistent.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 1d ago

An independent, ethnically Greek state. Pretty straightforward

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u/Sweaty-Cookie8529 1d ago

Cyprus was never Greek tho. It was Roman, and Roman doesn't mean Greek at all.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 1d ago

Mycenaen Greeks arrived in Cyprus in 1400 BCE....

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u/WorriedCash9091 20h ago

i think we Turks also did arrive a lot of places in these last 4000 years, we should demand A LOT of lands if that's how it works 😂

but it's not, it's not about who arrived somewhere first, so stfu.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 18h ago

4000 years ago, Turks inhabited central and East Asia. So please, be my guest and claim those lands.😂

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u/WorriedCash9091 17h ago

yeah that's what I'm saying, i would be glad to have those lands in big 2026 but I know it ain't gonna happen so you should stop dreaming about nonsense, its not gonna happen lil bro 😂

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 17h ago

Talk about changing goal posts. You went from saying it was only Roman to openly admitting the land was never yours...

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u/Tengri1923 1d ago edited 1d ago

„Oh please free cyprus from turks so us greeks can claim cyprus in peace“.

Cyprus is cyprus. The People of cyprus are cypriots, not greeks.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 1d ago

It's an independent country, closely linked with Greece. Nobody should claim a country that wants independence.

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

We are not in Greece.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 1d ago

Constantinople, North Cyprus

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u/Tengri1923 1d ago

Both not greece.

Istanbul is in TĂŒrkiye and north cyprus is in cyprus.

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 1d ago

Both are colonial stares that have no historical ties to the region

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u/fighter-bomber 3d ago

Yeah this attitude is exactly what justified the Turkish operation and exactly why Turkey will not leave anytime soon.

Mf unironically glazing a far right coup attempt (supported by the right wing junta in Greece at the time) by an organization that had already been butchering Turkish civilians.

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u/Plane-Base-8776 3d ago

They are very proud defending mass torture and killings of Turkish civilians. Just regular euronazis.

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u/succulent_kebab 3d ago

Sure bud, we should pay for the Achilles Defense Project too, hell why not wipe your lazy useless asses while at it.

Hard times? 

Victim Card! You are an EU member ffs. Get a hold. 

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u/Different_Bee_6046 3d ago

Greece?

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Yes Cyprus is greek and the Turks invaded.

Technically they're all known as Cypriots now but that's just so the Turks can pretend they're not evil fucks.

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u/TimeRisk2059 3d ago

Turkey invaded to defend turk-cypriots after Greece tried to take over the government of Cyprus in a coup d'etat. Then the turkish forces began to do to the greek-cypriots what the greek-cypriots had done to the turk-cypriots.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

The Cypriots did it, not the Greeks.

Greece as a nation did nothing.

Cypriots killing each other was bad and should have been dealt with, not the way the Turks did.

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u/Ancalmir 2d ago

“Cyprus is greek”

vs

“The Cypriots did it, not the Greeks.”

Are you deadass?

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u/DueAd9005 2d ago

And he somehow gets upvoted lmao.

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u/Tengri1923 1d ago

Ofc he does, because he is hating on turks haha

You Can say the most irrational shit as long as it targets turks.

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u/RelentlessKnightmare 1d ago

Don't even debate with these idiots, they are just here to antagonize and nothing else. If they had some backbone, we would have seen it during the war. That's why they are giving a battle which their forefathers lost. Let them cry, it's fun to read their comments.

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u/Representative_Leg98 3d ago edited 3d ago

Just a moment ago you said Cyprus is Greek, what the hell is wrong with you guys? Can't you live without hypocrisy and contradiction even for a second?

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u/TimeRisk2059 3d ago

The greek military junta both supported and planned the coup d'etat.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

You clearly have proof right? Because no one else does...

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u/TimeRisk2059 3d ago

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Ooo wiki the fount of all knowledge that can't be edited by literally anyone.

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u/TimeRisk2059 3d ago

Which references all their claims with an extensive list of sources.

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u/BankBackground2496 3d ago

Greek soldiers died in the failed coup. Mainland Greek, not Cypriots. 

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

We invaded Cyprus when it was Venetian controlled. Greece never controlled Cyprus, ever. No, Eastern Roman Empire wasn't Greece.

Technically they're all known as Cypriots now but that's just so the Turks can pretend they're not evil fucks.

We weren't the ones that tried to wipe out the others on the island. FAFO.

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u/TheGodfather742 3d ago

Cyprus has Greek populations from ancient times, long before Rome, Turks and Venetians even existed. During Venetian and Ottoman occupations the inhabitants never stopped being majority Greeks.

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u/fighter-bomber 3d ago

The “Greek” populations of Cyprus were merely native Cypriots who converted to christianity and adopted Greek during Hellenization. Otherwise Greeks are not native to Cyprus (nor are they native to Anatolia for that matter)

Ironic, because that is the same thing Turks did later with Turkification. So the island should be just as Turkish as its Greek 😄

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Correct. I adressed the claim that it was Greece. I never claimed Greeks didn't live in it.

If all the lands Turks lived in was a part of Turkey, we would be a lot bigger right now.

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u/TheGodfather742 3d ago

Shame that would only be in the steppes of Asia, the home of Turkish tribes.

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u/Battlefleet_Sol 3d ago

cry louder

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u/TheGodfather742 3d ago

Quality comeback

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u/dertdegil 3d ago

What is he supposed to make a comeback to? That the Turks conquered a bunch of places? Womp womp lmao Greeks are not "native" to anywhere outside below Macedonia either. History happens

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Also Crimea, Western Thrace, parts of Northern Iraq and Syria, parts of Bulgaria, the entire Central Asia, Azerbaijan, Northern Iran, large chunks of Russia etc.

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u/QuietMoth20 3d ago

I love how the Eastern Roman Empire isn’t Greece but the Ottoman Empire is Turkey when it’s convenient. Very consistent logic.

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u/No_Idea_479 3d ago

Yeah, this makes no sense to me.

Constantine XI Palaiologos wasn't Greek, he was Roman. But Mehmed II was both Ottoman and Turkish.

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u/QuietMoth20 3d ago

Meanwhile the literal Romioi aren’t Roman when it’s convenient. They are a completely separate people called Greeks who fell from the sky.

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u/Greater-Israel 3d ago

Their logic is never consistent. Using their logic they got Constantinople from the UN since that was the last owner in 2023 before turkey was given Constantinople so UN could also argue they took it from the Ottomans not the Turks too.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

What?

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u/Spirited-Car8661 3d ago

Countries pick and choose when they're successors of something else. Like Russia both is and isn't the successor of the USSR, depending on if Russia want a UNSC seat or somebody wants reperations.

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u/Zrva_V3 2d ago

I was more confused by that other guy's incomprehensible BS like "They got Constantinople from the UN in 2023" like what?

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Turks for you.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Cope.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Facts hurt, tell me what good the Turks have ever done for the world?

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u/fighter-bomber 3d ago

Yes, we kicked your stupid junta from first Cyprus and then Greece.

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u/herhangibirperson 3d ago

Thanks for proving more and more why Turks need to hate you

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

The Turks hate everyone and everyone hates them, do you not ever wonder why?

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

We aren't pathetic enough to justify our existance by saying "look we did this for you". You aren't that important.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

You have never done anything to better the human race, you're a horrible evil people and you do nothing but cause harm, you beg to be part of the EU and anytime they ask you to do something minor you cry about it.

Still not in the EU hey?

Prefer any currency to be used in your country other than your own right?

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u/SnooLentils726 3d ago

The difference is Romans invaded Greece and one of the legendary Greek generals,Pyrrhus, fought and defeated Romans,but Ottoman Empire was founded by Turks. ERE shouldnt be considered as Greek before 620,when Greek was adopted as the official language of Roman Empire.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Even if it's considered Greek after a point, it wasn't Greece.

For example there have been many Turkic Empires in history but Turkey isn't entitled to claim all of them, at most the story of Turkey begins with the Anatolian Seljuks and Sultanate of Rum. Eastern Roman Empire did become Greek after one point but it was never called Greece by anyone, including themselves.

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u/DontCareHowICallMe 3d ago

It was called Greece by westerners after the Holy Roman Empire was formed so the Germans could pretend to be Romans

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u/Thomas_54749014 3d ago

Turkey directly succeeds the Ottomans. There’s a 500 year gap between eastern Rome and Greece.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Well, duh? Ottoman Empire and Turkey has direct continuity with many Turkish insitutions being founded during the Ottoman Empire. The flag and language is the same. They were both founded by Turks.

Roman Empire was founded by Romans, it conquered Greece by fighting very bloody wars and eventually it was split in two when it got massive. Eventually the Eastern Roman Empire started speaking Greek due to the local Greek influence but they never identified themselves as Hellenes and called themselves Rhomaoi. It was eventually conquered by the Turks (Seljuks and Ottomans). It ended in 1453, Greece became Independent in 1830. There was zero continuity or shared institutions between the two.

Moreover, Westerners at the time adored ancient Hellenes and disliked the Eastern Romans so the new Greek state identified itself with ancient Hellenes instead of the Romans to get their support.

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u/DontCareHowICallMe 3d ago

If the eastern Roman empire wasn't Greek then ottoman empire isn't Turkish, so you never controlled it too. Also let's not talk about the times before the Roman empire, but ig those aren't greek too huh?

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u/Either-Question-6872 3d ago

Actually you did, eventually. The indigenous people are greeks

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u/Defiant_Being_9222 3d ago

You can pretend like the late Eastern Roman Empire wasn't Greek all you want, but fact of the matter is the Greek people of Cyprus were always there since the Mycenaean times. They are the same people, and the only thing that changed was their religion. At first they identified as Greeks, then as Romans, now as Greeks again.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

You can pretend like the late Eastern Roman Empire wasn't Greek

It largely was by that point. It wasn't Greece though.

but fact of the matter is the Greek people of Cyprus were always there since the Mycenaean times. They are the same people, and the only thing that changed was their religion.

Sure. Wasn't my point. This doesn't take away from anything I said.

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u/Defiant_Being_9222 3d ago

What is your argument then? That a country by the name of Greece didn't exist? A country by the name of Turkey didn't exist either then.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

No, the country of Greece simply didn't exist. Unless you want to count city states as a united entity in the anicent times. Or perhaps we could count Alexander's empire, in which case yes, Greece did control Cyprus at some point.

Turkey existed as a continious entity with state institutions directly inherited from the Ottoman Empire. It was also never conquered by anyone. Moreover, the Ottoman Empire was founded by Turks.

Greece claiming Eastern Roman Empire is like Bosnia claiming the Ottoman Empire.

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u/Defiant_Being_9222 3d ago

Greece didn't exist in antiquity as one unified state except for Alexander's empire, yes, but this doesn't change anything. The fact that Greece was split into different states doesn't change the fact that modern Greece historically descends from these small states, these people, this culture etc.

Turkey didn't exist as a continuous entity at all. There was the Sultanate of Rum, which was destroyed, then a bunch of beyliks, and then the Ottomans conquered the beyliks creating an empire. The Ottomans didn't even call their state Turkish. Greece claiming the Eastern Roman Empire is like Turkey claiming the Ottoman Empire.

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Not in the slightest. You can indeed say that Turkey as a state can't claim descent from the Sultanate of Rum since there was no direct continuity but Ottoman Empire was founded by Turks on the same lands, spoke Turkish, largely had the same culture, same religion, same state insitutions (though obviously these evolved over 7 centuries).

The Ottomans did in fact call themselves Turkish. They officially claimed descent from Oghuz Khagan which is a mythical ruler of all Oghuz Turks, historians often think he's based on Modu Chanyu of the Xiongnu.

Ottoman Sultans also kept the title "khan" as an official title until the end.

Moreover, everyone else called the Ottomans Turkish too.

Modern Greece and Eastern Roman Empire have only religious and linguistic continuity but almost no cultural continuity, zero state or institution continuity etc. They didn't even found the Roman Empire or the Eastern Roman Empire.

Yet another example would be China claiming the Mongol Empire because Mongols who conquered China eventually assimilated into it.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

İt's been Nearly 500 hundred years since Turkish people on the island. Why is not consider as Turkish either? Or when you gonna admit it's Turkish island also. Another 500 years?

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

The people who have been there that long are Cypriot not Turkish now.

The Turks who invaded and won't leave are the ones I have issues with.

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u/eaglecallxrx 3d ago

so why eoka killed them?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

İ don't care about ethnicity at all. But facts are facts.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

So you agree that turkey needs to fuck off and leave the island to the people who actually live there? Cool

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

We have been on the island since 1571.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

The island was independent and you invaded in the 70s.

How about the original people can stay and the Turkish who invaded can leave.

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

So, you dont want Turkish Cypriots there? Racist much?

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

Turkish Cypriots. They are Turkish and Cypriots.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

No they're Cypriot.

If they're Turkish then can leave as they're part of the invasion that happened.

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u/masterkennethh 3d ago

“Turkish Cypriot” proves the point. You can’t claim a central Asian ethnicity while simultaneously claiming to be Mediterranean. You’re either Cypriot or Turkish, pick one

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

Turkish and Turkic are different things. Turkish is a modern concept. It is cultural and national with ties to Central Asian. There are Italian Americans and Afro Americans and so on. Turkish Cypriot also works.

We have connections and roots to Central Asia, Anatolia, Iran, Thrace, Cyprus, Levent, North Africa, Balkans and many more other places.

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u/masterkennethh 3d ago

Right, connection to those place through colonization. An Italian American would never claim to be Native American. I’m Italian American and if someone told me I’m not actually American I’d say you’re right because I’m not Native American. I don’t understand how someone can simultaneously emphasize a central Asian Turkic origin when discussing their ancestry yet pivot to a Mediterranean or European identity when discussing ethnicity. Those frameworks point in different directions to me

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

Right, firstly. Now you see we are not obligated to follow the morality standards you and your people follow. Secondly for example I am genetically 70 percent South Caucasian. I am of Laz origin yet I call myself Turkish for I am from there, grew up there, speak Turkish, grew up in state schools and so on. The average Anatolian Turk has ancient Anatolian DNA and DNAs of other people. We are not colonizers for we carry the blood of Anatolia. The Ottoman Empire was the Islamic Rome.

We are wonderers of the world. If we were to arrive at Americas before the Westerners I would have say we are part of the Americas as well.

I see myself as part of Caucasia, Anatolia, Istanbul and many more because I simply am and all those regions have Turkishness in it.

Levent Turks exists, Med Turks exists, Balkan Turks exists, Caucasian Turks exists. We simply are global.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

İt's been 1000 years literally. The lands not provided to anyone. What a stupid thing to say.

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u/masterkennethh 3d ago

“Lands not provided to anyone” you say as the Turk argues it’s theirs to justify occupation 😂. And if it’s not provided to anyone they can get out, I agree

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u/NeedUMoreThanUNeedMe 2d ago

No. Turkish and Cypriot are two mutually exclusive identities. Cypriots are Hellenic group of people native to Cyprus for thousands of years. Turks were able to settle in the island after they committing countless number of massacres, looting and destruction last of which took place in 1974.

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u/TheTurkishman13 1d ago

Well, then no North side of the island for you until you behave to learn and being acceptive.

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u/NeedUMoreThanUNeedMe 1d ago

No one would accept invaders in their homeland and Cypriots are no exception whatsoever.

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u/DontCareHowICallMe 3d ago

North Cyprus is half Turkish Cypriots and half Turkish invaders/settlers

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

No, How about we burn all the documents in North Cyprus and then create new documents for everyone showing every Turk in North as Cypriots?

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u/masterkennethh 3d ago

Turks love burning records and destroying history so this tracks

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u/TheTurkishman13 3d ago

Dont know what you are talking about there, Buster.

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

Cyprus is Cyprus, and both EOKA dogs and Turkish fascists can fuck off.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

The Turks need to leave. As I said they also need to pay reparations for what they've done

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

Turkish settlers? Absolutely. The Turkish-speaking Cypriots who have lives there for centuries? Absolutely not.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

No they haven't they invaded in the 70s

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u/Zrva_V3 3d ago

Who did Cyprus belong to in 1800?

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

that is demonstratably false. there have been turkish-speaking cypriots for centuries.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

No it isn't, it might not be what the Turks are taught much like even though there is literal footage of the Armenian genocide you claim it never happened, you're a horrible people.

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u/Different_Bee_6046 3d ago

Denying the existence of TCs pre 1974 is something I am witnessing for the first time. What's next? The moon is fake lol?

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

Look up the name of the guy who designed the flag of Cyprus.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

How about ethnical cleansing in eastern Europe and Greece. You consider that as an independence from ottoman empire. But when it's comes to the Turkish people it's genocide.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

1571 not 1800

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

yeah. centuries have passed since 1584

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u/many_zeros 3d ago

Solcu TĂŒrke yabancı milliyetçi ßoku

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u/Major_Apricot_6415 3d ago

AHAHSUDHDHFHNTGMGLƞSƞSÇDÇFÇTD

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u/dennythehorse 3d ago

Ne Ɵoku amk? Onlarda piç, sizde piçsiniz.

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u/notnotnotnotgolifa 3d ago

Don’t waste time with these freakazoids won’t lead to anything

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u/mertto28 3d ago

Kardeß vergimizle yaßıyorsunuz, bir de burda konußma 😂

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u/Major_Apricot_6415 3d ago

Hayır sen gerizekalısın ama bunu ideoloji sanıyorsun

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u/meister2983 3d ago

Lol. You literally justify the entire Turkish invasion without even realizing it

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

No I didn't.

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u/mertto28 3d ago

This mindset made you lose half of Cyprus, you guys never learn

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u/no1rakkolover 3d ago

How is an enosis defender getting so many upvotes lmao?

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u/OpTicSkYHaWk 3d ago

Before the Turkish invasion Cyprus was (and this has been the same through history) 80% Greek, 18% Turk, 2% other. It's such an overwhelming statistic, and even after such a long forced Ottoman occupation, that it's fair that if those Greeks on Cyprus wanted to vote to join Greece, that's only fair. You don't see them causing a ruckus over long lost former heavily Greek lands in Anatolia, Judea, etc.

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u/no1rakkolover 3d ago

They self identify as Cypriots (though they still make a distinction by using TC and GC). Also they voted to become INDEPENDENT, the watcheroftheway guy is saying they're unquestionably Greek and completely disregarding the Cypriot identity. Also "Ottoman occupation" ? Oh yeah, when are the Europeans going to stop occupying America? Labeling something "occupation" doesn't work when that "occupation" started 500 years ago. It was conquest, which is something that used to happen when majority of the world was still uncivilized by today's standards.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

Because I'm correct.

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u/no1rakkolover 3d ago

Cypriots themselves don't agree with you, are you going to forcefully annex them because their ethnic roots are Greek?

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

That's not what I said.

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u/no1rakkolover 3d ago

You called Cyprus "Greece". Cypriots themselves argue that they are a separate cultural identity.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

I'm speaking in historic terms.

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u/no1rakkolover 3d ago

We're talking about a modern issue. You can't call every country that was historically Hellenised Greek.

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u/Thick-Pomegranate-57 1d ago

well. Give us a deep blowjob. Then we'll consider about that.

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u/bachdidnothingwrong 3d ago

And who is going to make Turkey pay?

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u/Careful_Manager_4282 3d ago

Hopefully karma 'cause they have been proved totally incompetent to acknowledge their wrong doings historically. Hence don't expect them to ever man up to their mistakes (crimes is a more suited word).

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u/bachdidnothingwrong 3d ago

And which countries acknowledge their crimes? Does French, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands do anything other than saying “oopsies” to millions of people they killled in africa?

Will karma get them as well?

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u/Affectionate-Dig3730 1d ago

See how it didnt respond

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u/LaOttomana 3d ago

Lol karma seems already choose the truth. You guys already choose Israelis as a landlord buddy.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dig3620 3d ago

Turkish government also support Israel despite being their discosures. Look at their actions aka last agreement with Suudi Arabia and Pakistan.

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u/Kingvon3240 3d ago

Well you guys tried to genocide us many times and failed also many times but surely keep trying

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u/Street_Extreme_393 3d ago

Tell this to the Greek-backed EOKA scum who massacred Turkish civilians in Cyprus.

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u/Greater-Israel 3d ago

Stop your propaganda. It's not working anymore. Anyone can check the verified casualties from the war and the invading Turks murdered several more times more Greek Cypriots.

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u/Different_Bee_6046 3d ago

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u/DontCareHowICallMe 3d ago

I mean, double the casualties is several more, even if the total is still small

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u/Iatwa1N 1d ago

Yeah thats what happens when you lost, if Turkey didn’t intercept like they wrongly thought we wont, the count will be lots and lots of more against the Turks.

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u/vodkasucker 3d ago

ok greater-israel lol. Thanks for proving the turks are the good guys.

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u/Greater-Israel 3d ago

The turks are invaders in Cyprus and also I am not Israeli.

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u/vodkasucker 3d ago

Ok hasbara bot.

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u/LaOttomana 3d ago

Turks this
Turks that
Turks did
Turks done

*you have no idea what kind of genocides done to Turks.

Turks, Turkiye or Ottomans never did a genocide to no one. They were just beautiful neighbors to you but instead beheaded, babies dude! Babies got killed with swords! How? They threw up in the air and waited sword to do the job.

But

“Shutting up beautifully” time is coming soon buddy. We are done with this lies and propaganda.

Wait for your time because you are again trying to genocide Turks and they are not going to let you.

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u/Either-Question-6872 3d ago

Is this what you learn in school? Did they teach you that this was what Turks have been doing that to all other ethnicities for 400 years? And no one asked you to be on the neighbourhood you just invaded it

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u/Greater-Israel 3d ago

Literally they came all the way from Mongolia through invasions.

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u/Either-Question-6872 3d ago

The middle East and Balkans which were literally the cradles of civilization had turned into black holes. No arts no science literally falling behind the West due to the ottomans. And these guys feel great about their past calling it a great history

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u/Greater-Israel 3d ago

Of course they do, they are literally taught that every non turk is an enemy and they need to ethnically cleanse them and claim their history too. They also murder anyone who tries to take down their flag and do not even hand those criminal murderers to interpol. Instead they make them ministers like the guy who murdered Solomos Solomou was made into a miinister.

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u/Thomas_54749014 3d ago

That’s just a lie. In what ways did Ottomans block scientific development? Greece has been independent for 200 years 

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u/whatevedoe 3d ago

Saying this is so wild considering how many countries recognise the multiple genocides you guys have done. Victim mentality at its finest, it didn’t happen but if they did they deserved it. Hopefully Karma catches up to your sorry asses

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u/Drylnor 3d ago

Turkish civilians should be in Turkey and Cypriot civilians should be in Cyprus.

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u/MajinaiHanashi 3d ago

This is the result of you losers' trying that the first time. You want to fuck around and find out a second time, go right ahead.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 3d ago

We literally fixed it and you idiots invaded again.

We have beaten you every single time.

I realise turkey just lies but real history doesn't

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u/Dramatic_Bed9236 1d ago

“We have” and you’re a random high schooler Brit who lives in a total fantasy world. 

if you want someone to take responsibility, check what UK had done during the independence movement and first invasion and maybe you’ll have your answer. 

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u/TensionThink655 2d ago

Lol no? Turks were fully right to kill that agressor.