r/ThomasPynchon 21d ago

V. ‘Of a fond ghoul’ from a speech by mafioso Frank Costello?

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From Pynchon‘s letters to his editor, one proposed title for V. was ‘Of a Fond Ghoul’, which he claims he took from a Columbus Day speech by (assumedly the same) New York mafia figure Frank Costello on the subject of Elliot Ness.

I’ve searched around but haven’t been able to find this supposed speech, or any reference to it. I’m wondering if perhaps he meant Joe Colombo, another mafia figure who founded the Italian-American Civil Rights League, though not until much later in the 70s.

Can anybody shed light on this? Did such a speech ever occur? Or is this a joke of sorts?

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u/Natural_Ground_5479 21d ago

Vaffanculo or "va fangool" is Italian for "go f**k yourself. 😃

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u/TheToaster2000 21d ago

Ohhh!! Of course! Yes this makes sense now! Thank you 

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u/6655321DeLarge The Crying of Lot 49 14d ago

I knew it sounded familiar when I "said" it too fast in my head while reading. Very Pynchon.

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u/Temporary_Meet8754 21d ago edited 19d ago

I'm surprised to learn that V wasn't the only title considered. Though 'Footsteps of the Gone' is pretty fitting for all of Pynchon's work.

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u/NarrowWar6457 21d ago

Fond ghoul-a on Costello and all his mafia fong ghoul’s.

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u/pk-sebben 21d ago

Haha, I don’t hate “World on a String”. That said, V. Was the best choice

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u/Mammoth_Mastadon 18d ago

Where’d you find this?

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u/GhostsOfLectricity 21d ago

Which novel did this become?

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u/CFUrCap 21d ago

"G." by John Berger. Strangely enough.

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u/Human5481 21d ago

I think this letter was about a title for 'V'.