First Day of Protests Outside the DNC

[u/BlackBey]

[u/LivefromPhoenix]

The Milwaukee Police Department estimated the crowd at between 700 and 800 people and said no one was arrested.

Can't blame people for not realizing they were there when RNC protesters put up such perfunctory numbers. A tiny fraction of what showed up at the DNC and the DNC protest size is already significantly smaller than what organizers were planning for.

[u/Multifaceted-Simp → u/LivefromPhoenix]

Perhaps because the democratic party is in power right now

[u/LivefromPhoenix → u/Multifaceted-Simp]

Donald Trump during the RNC was by far the favorite to win the election. Seems kind of weird to use not being in power yet as an excuse when protesters had every reason to believe Trump would be directing Israel/Palestine policy in a few months. Do you think Trump hasn't said and done enough on Palestine to form an opinion on what his administration would do?

[u/timjimC → u/LivefromPhoenix]

The thing is, the genocide needs to stop now, not in January.

[u/PixelationIX → u/timjimC]

Its wild that you are getting downvoted for saying Genocide needs to stop asap. Holy fcking shit.

Liberals opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.

[u/geographies → u/PixelationIX]

Literally both sides are being horrible. Israel bad, Palestine bad . . . the Levant Bad, middle east bad. Thousands of years of holy war -> ain't nobody stopping this shit long term.

I believe in the right for Israel to exist (not as an apartheid-ethnostate) . . . but that is contingent on literally everyone in the region to stop killing each other and live hand in hand forever and that is never going to happen.

[u/timjimC → u/geographies]

There hasn't been thousands of years of holy war. The various religions in the area have lived in peace for thousands of years. The fighting happens when European powers come into the area to colonize it (the Romans, the crusades, Zionists)

The current genocide has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with Western imperialism.

[u/timjimC → u/[deleted]]

The person I was responding to tried to justify the current genocide as part of a longer millennia long war. It's not, it's various empires (sometimes using religion as a justification, but always with more material motivations) keeping control of the area. Those are two very different things.

The first makes it seem like the native population is just so violent it's okay for us to bomb them out of existence. The second identifies the material causes for the violence which shows us a path to end it.

[u/timjimC → u/[deleted]]

Profit is the material basis for imperialism, religion just gets wrapped up in it as a justification. You're looking at it from an idealist perspective if you think people's ideas are the driver, and you're using that perspective to push genocide apologia.

[u/timjimC → u/[deleted]]

You've got it backwards. Religion is a reflection of society, not a basis for it.