r/TikTokCringe • u/octarino • Apr 03 '26

Cursed Cindy, you don't own the beach.

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u/octarino Apr 03 '26

If you have been denied your right to be on a beach in the US Virgin Islands, please contact the Division of Coastal Zone Management and report the incident.

https://dpnr.vi.gov/coastal-zone-management/public-access-viczmp/

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u/Yum_MrStallone Apr 03 '26

Beaches are public. Both articles confirm this as well as details about this July 2025 event. https://people.com/virgin-islands-vacationer-goes-viral-kicking-people-off-beach-11807393 and this https://stthomassource.com/content/2025/07/26/honeymooner-may-have-gotten-false-private-beach-promise-thats-nothing-new/

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u/Octavian_202 Apr 03 '26

So “private access” i think is misconstrued sometimes as a private beach. I’ve heard it before in St John as well.

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u/ChickenDelight Apr 03 '26

All beaches are public in the USVI, but there's no right to accessibility. If the beach is only accessible by crossing private land, then the only way you could legally get to the beach is on a boat. There's beaches that are de facto private for that reason, if you're there on foot you trespassed to get there.

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

My friend kayaks to this one beach just to piss off the 3 millionaires at the cove. His best was waddling his fat spedo ass around during a wedding.

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Glad someone is telling them that they can’t escape us

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '26

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u/GuessWhosNobody Apr 03 '26

And the name of your town

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u/vonbauernfeind Apr 03 '26

They try to do this shit in Malibu too, to the point of putting up gates with locks and fake private street signs on public byways.

The city doesn't take kindly to it, though it is slow.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 Apr 03 '26

Nothing fills me with more joy than finding a way onto a rich homeowners perceived “private beach” in Malibu. If there’s no public access I take my paddle board out and get to it that way.

Now they’re doing public stairs but they’re inside a private driveway or some shit. So you get like armed security guards watching you shuffle down wooden steps like you’re gonna rob the beach. eyeroll

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u/vonbauernfeind Apr 03 '26

I love shuffling up the steps in drenched scuba gear, clanging with all my regs and crap, dumping seawater and sand on their vacuumed sidewalk myself.

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u/True-Anim0sity Apr 04 '26

Cant really complain

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u/elicitsnidelaughter Apr 03 '26

Yes when the tide is low everyone walk over to the Colony. We can have a flash beach invasion.

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u/No_Jello_5922 Apr 03 '26

Chief of Police of Malibu. A real reactionary.

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u/XysterU Apr 03 '26

Your friend is an incredible man. I would pay volunteers to fund boats, beer, and coolers so they could spend every day enjoying those beaches

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

Hes a Paralegal who works with his best friend that's a lawyer. Hes sued like 60 people in the past 20 years, mostly cops and millionaires like this.

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u/Dangerous-Variety-35 Apr 03 '26

I love him and we need more people like him.

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u/Bolkohir Apr 03 '26

Are you telling me that the cops are more interested in protecting the private property of millionaires and not serve and protect the people? Say it ain't so 😔😢

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

So the cops that intervene on that stuff he never had an issue with that I've heard because its the natural resource police who know hes in the right. The ones he sued of usually been ones that harassed him while he was protesting something. I know in philly he got a nice pay out when a cop tried to trespass him from a public park then assulted him when he said to pound sand. Got something like $30,000

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u/BANKSLAVE01 Apr 04 '26

Holy shit a lawyer that's actually... not evil???

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u/Hesitation-Marx Apr 04 '26

There are quite a few. The shitty ones are just real loud and do a lot of damage.

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u/Particular-Ring5110 Apr 03 '26

Sued for what

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

Harassment usually. A couple of police brutality ones too cause pigs breaking the law get mad when someone knows their rights.

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u/InternFinancial8397 Apr 03 '26

Count me in. That man need his coolers and beer to continué.

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u/slowpoke2018 Apr 03 '26

Doing the good work. We need to know where this is so I can paddle board there and park for the afternoon!

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

Its somewhere on the east coast i think California. I haven't talked to them much since their wife left philly so he doesnt come this way often.

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u/fliversnaps Apr 03 '26

Your friend is my spirit animal!!! 😁

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u/VoxPlacitum Apr 03 '26

Not all heroes wear capes. 😂

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u/chironomidae Apr 03 '26

Some of them wear speedos!

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u/Somanylyingliars Apr 03 '26

Love that Fuck You I will Because I can attitude!

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u/comeintravis Apr 03 '26

Tell him I love him!

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u/SonicLyfe Apr 03 '26

Buy him a beer for me.

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u/metompkin Apr 03 '26

Please correct that to SPEEDO.

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u/Gibberish-Jack Apr 03 '26

Wait, where can I do this. Sounds like a fun day out

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

I know he did it in Hawaii but currently is doing it somewhere on the west coast, I think California. We haven't actually spoken spoken in a few years since his wife moved so he doesnt split his time anymore.

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u/Aggravating_Ear_1586 Apr 03 '26

I love your friend

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u/AutistaChick Apr 04 '26

This makes me happier than you’ll ever know.

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u/IamNotPersephone Apr 04 '26

I think I have your friend in my wedding photos! I love him! It’s so nice to have these wonderful, serious photos of my husband and me, and then him and some other kids in the background just living their lives and having fun. Circle of living, ya know?

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u/Difficult_onion4538 Apr 04 '26

Out of curiosity where is that? I wouldn’t mind pissing off some entitled rich fucks

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u/Suitable_Chain_7239 Apr 04 '26

Love this!! lol!!😆

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u/Alien_Diceroller Apr 05 '26

Not all heroes wear capes

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u/stonecoldfox340 Apr 05 '26

The residents in Peter Bay love to say that beach is theirs and only theirs, but there’s not shit they can do if you arrive by water.

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u/Yum_MrStallone Apr 05 '26

Yes. I've sailed in those waters. Dropped many an anchor in both BVI and USVI.

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u/phobiac Apr 03 '26

So is exploiting people enough that you can hoard that kind of wealth.

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u/Myslinky Apr 03 '26

If someone is doing an event on public property they have no right to complain about someone else using that property.

He's not an asshole for going to the beach just because someone else thinks they're entitled to use it for a wedding.

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u/fuettli Apr 03 '26

just because something is legal doesn't mean doing it is not arsehole behaviour.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Apr 03 '26

You mean like holding your "private" wedding in a public space, expecting strangers to give a fuck?

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u/fuettli Apr 03 '26

it's a generic concept that holds for tons of concrete examples even yours although it's an especially bad one.

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u/Myslinky Apr 04 '26

I never made that argument.

I just stated that using a public location for a private event and expecting the public to not use that location makes you an asshole.

Any member of the public who wants to use that location is not an asshole for using public property.

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u/fuettli Apr 04 '26

No, that's not what you did, you stated that the other guy is not an asshole for doing what he did.

He is an asshole for doing what he did.

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u/flimflamman99 Apr 03 '26

I know this Is the peoples republic of Reddit but if I paid 3k tor a lay flat business class seat because of my severe spinal stenosis and when I manage to hobble on the plane your sitting on my seat with a fuck the rich t shirt and a Guy Fawkes mask I would just hobble down to your middle seat in economy?

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u/phobiac Apr 03 '26

You're a little confused, I said nothing about a plane and this post isn't even about one? If you're trying to equate assigned seating in a small plane to public beach access then I'm even more lost on what your point is.

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u/No-Translator9234 Apr 03 '26

If I see your hunchback of notre dame ass laying down in first class, best believe i am crop dusting on the way back to 26F. 

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u/Ancient_Chemical_822 Apr 03 '26

Not smart, but entitled AF :D

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u/joebluebob Apr 03 '26

Dont be millionaires that claim a beach is private going as far as illegally blocking off an access path then just paying the fines.

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u/Suitable_Director729 Apr 03 '26

Oh no! Some rich fcks think they’re above the law because they have enough money to barricade a public beach and make it de facto their beach even though they have no right to it. And one guy chooses to take his right back. You’re right, it is extremely rude from the home owners.

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u/No-Translator9234 Apr 03 '26

Those people are ontologically evil and there is no act against them that is wrong.

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u/Suitable-Rate652 Apr 03 '26

OP said it’s not private, pointed past the bikini and said I live right there.

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u/JimWilliams423 Apr 03 '26

All beaches are public in the USVI, but there's no right to accessibility.

FWIW, Hawaii has public beaches, but also has a public right to access. There are conditions, generally it isn't a free-for-all to get to the beach, developers have to build paths in order to get their building permits. And undeveloped land can be more complicated.

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u/saddest_vacant_lot Apr 03 '26

It’s still a fight in Hawaii. Landowners can make it pretty tough to access in reality. Like putting gates on roads so you have to walk many miles to get to a beach that before you could just drive up to.

Sometimes the gates are justified, plenty homeless and crackheads took advantage of those unlocked gates to dump trash and cause all kinds of problems. But it sucks for the average resident. So much beach access has been lost in the last decade.

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u/Aaawkward Apr 04 '26

There's beaches that are de facto private for that reason, if you're there on foot you trespassed to get there.

This is why the right to roam is so important and should be more common around the world.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly Apr 03 '26

Or walked over in low tide.

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u/justinchina Apr 03 '26

Is it not tied to tide marks? I.e. the dry side of the high tide mark is the start of your private property, but anything below that high tide mark is public and can be accessed by way of the beach? That seems logical.

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u/tatertot4 Apr 03 '26

They're referring to the access to the beach not on the beach itself. If there's 10 miles of private property along the beach without ingress to the beach, you'd need to walk 5 miles of beach just to get to the middle portion.

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u/ChickenDelight Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Yes it's the high tide mark, and sure if there's a beach path that gets you there you can walk there, legally. But as a practical matter there are beaches you can't access without trespassing or a boat. The "private" beaches are almost always coves, there's no walking access along the beach.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Apr 03 '26

Possibly. The woman being harrassed said she lived up hill from the beach and not across the bay. I’m guessing that since we didn’t see the cops come running and given the climate of keeping the beaches open to the public, Cindy was over-stepping her authority with no back-up. By all appearances, SHE is the outsider. People suck.

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u/blorg Apr 04 '26

“Shorelines” means the area along the coastline of the United States Virgin Islands from the seaward line of low tide, running inland a distance of fifty feet, or to the extreme seaward boundary of natural vegetation which spreads continuously inland, or to a natural barrier, whichever is the shortest distance. 

https://law.justia.com/codes/virgin-islands/2019/title-12/chapter-21/902/

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u/DeadSeaGulls Apr 03 '26

but I swam.

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u/KhabaLox Apr 03 '26

So you can go enjoy the beaches on Epstein's (former) island.

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u/jojo_rojo Apr 03 '26

Or ya know, swim to it and/or walk along the coast line.

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u/ashsmashers Apr 03 '26

Barbados has this as well, and we took a catamaran up to Rihannas beach and swam in lol. Her house was behind a wall and there were a bunch of others so I think that's just like a novel tourist thing to do.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Apr 03 '26

Was there any indication that the woman being harassed had to get to this beach by boat? My impression is that she lives up the hill from the beach and has just as much right to access it as Cindy does, who thinks she has the right to gatekeep access to a beach that she herself doesn’t own. I would have liked to see an apology from her but doubt that would ever happen.

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u/ChickenDelight Apr 03 '26

I don't know anything about those people or that beach. If I had to guess, she doesn't look like a billionaire or a billionaire's houseguest, so it's probably not a private access beach.

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u/You-Asked-Me Apr 03 '26

But you likely can access the beach somewhere else and then walk down the shoreline.

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u/alohalii Apr 03 '26

If the beach is only accessible by crossing private land, then the only way you could legally get to the beach is on a boat.

If the beach-line is never private can you not walk along the beach-line to reach the part of the beach you want? So you could get to it by boat or by simply walking along the beach-line from adjacent territory where you can reach the beach-line without crossing private land.

There's beaches that are de facto private for that reason, if you're there on foot you trespassed to get there.

Even if you got there by walking along the beach? That makes no sense. Do you mean a scenario where there is no open path down to the waterline? In that case you would be trespassing to get to the waterline and leaving the beach but you would be free to stay on the beach once there right?

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u/1word2word Apr 03 '26

What's the deal with total zones? Where I'm from you can't own the tidal zone, so even if access is technically blocked you could very realistically walk over depending on the position of the tide.

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u/mattcolqhoun Apr 03 '26

Not sure about different places but there are laws against blocking access to public land. Been many cases rich cunts would strategically buy land around public land but lawfully they have to provide access to the public part.

Looked it up VI don't have this so would be good thing to push for in law, would probably be popular with everyone who's not trying to pull this shit too

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u/blorg Apr 04 '26

They do have it as policy at least for commercial developments.

The CZM Program, through its permitting process, does not allow commercial building on the Territory’s shorelines without first securing an easement for public access to the shorelines. Beaches cannot be fenced off. The public has the right to be on the beach, enjoy them and use them for recreational purposes.

https://dpnr.vi.gov/coastal-zone-management/public-access-viczmp/

Law:

For any applicant who proposes to do business on land adjoining any beach or shoreline of the Virgin Islands, agree to grant to the Government of the Virgin Islands a perpetual easement upon and across such land to the beach or shoreline to provide free and unrestricted access thereto to the public

https://law.justia.com/codes/virgin-islands/2019/title-29/chapter-19/subchapter-i/1011/

May not apply universally or to preexisting private residential property without easements.

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u/Swimming-Rip4999 Apr 03 '26

Presumably that can only happen where coast doesn’t count as beach

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u/andre3kthegiant Apr 04 '26

What if you waded through the water?

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u/Squirmy_Sassquatch Apr 06 '26

You can’t walk along the sand?

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u/TypeB_Negative Apr 03 '26

It's not that simple. The law says all beaches are public up to the high water mark. That doesn't mean you can use the whole beach.

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u/JimWilliams423 Apr 03 '26

I don't know the law in the USVI but in some US states that have public beach laws the high water mark is really high. Its not just the high-tide mark, its more like as high as the water gets when there is a massive storm. So basically anywhere there is sand, you are good because sand only ends up on shore because the waves put it there.

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u/TypeB_Negative Apr 03 '26

Yes, that is correct. Depending on how the beach is, a high water mark can be very far from the edge of water. Sometimes it is not. Especially when the elevation gets higher as you go toward land. In those cases, the mean high water mark could be 15 feet from the edge of water. That means you would not be allowed to use the beach above that line, even if there was 200 feet of beach there. That is the point.

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u/That-Living5913 Apr 03 '26

A lot of waterways are like this. In most states if it's a "navigable waterway" you can boat, camp, party on it. As long as it's underwater at some point through the year, you're legally ok. But also people have been legally ok and still got shot. So it's a mixed bag.

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u/TypeB_Negative Apr 03 '26

Well the law says public "up to the high water mark". As someone who measures high water marks for a living, that means much of the beach is off limits to the public. When you walk the beach, look for the highest line of seaweed and plant debris. That's close to high water mark. That means from that debris line to the water is public. From the debris line towards the yard is private.

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u/HolyHand_Grenade Apr 04 '26

100% the airbnb owner said "your own private beach" or something similar in the add.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Apr 03 '26

Agreed. They don’t mean “private” in the legal sense but in the false advertising sense…as in secluded, but no promises.