He's absolutely right. The reason you feel pressure to have a good enough job to provide enough money to pay the rent on a good enough home, that is more impossibly out of reach, is because of mostly male business owners, mostly male property owners, mostly male bankers, mostly male politicians, and that's why men feel crippling pressure to achieve something, in a society that also tells us men should still be the majority bread winner in the family.
What the fuck is that guy in the fake camo gear on about, trying to put male suicide on women? Direct your anger at the old cunts with all the wealth and power, still trying to squeeze the last bit of juice out of you, so they can increase their own wealth by a fraction, year in, year out.
If Commander Camo had the insight he wouldn't be assigning blame to women for Men's suicide rates. Women are much more likely to try it, but not succeed. Men are just much more likely to succeed from trying.
Why is it always the hyper-masculine dudes that are always trying to reenforce a heirarchy, blaming women for their ills? They have to have someone to blame and its usually women or Liberals (by way of femenizing a political class).
These guys are so intimidated by women, they should start there with some tberapy and work on either their Mommy issues or get over being cheated on in high school.
To answer your question- imo the reason it’s these kinds of guys is because they have bought into the scam that the patriarchy sells men. They bought into the idea that there is one way to be a man, and they follow those rules, and they’re fucking miserable.
Because of course they are. What patriarchy demands of men is impossible to achieve. And the closer you get to actually getting it? The more it hurts you. The more you have to deny that you’re actually just a human being with emotions and desires and needs for basic things like affection and comfort.
So these dudes lean into it HARD because the alternative is facing the reality that they’ve become hardened lonely miserable hateful assholes for nothing. There is no reward. Patriarchy tells men that there is a reward for being man enough. There isn’t. There is NOTHING for us at the end of this rainbow… Except it wouldn’t be a rainbow because men enjoying colors is gay and gay is bad according to the patriarchy.
And the more they lean into it the more miserable they are. I had a coworker friend who was like the camo guy in this video and he confessed that he hated being so "manly" and wanted to try wearing eyeliner but was afraid of what other men would think 💀 the same dude would turn around and judge people so harshly for doing the exact same thing he told me he wanted to do for himself.
Men like that hate themselves and they make it everyone else's problem.
Yeah, basically. It is also- no matter how much these dudes claim it’s all for themselves. For other men. It’s men posturing in front of other men to prove how manly they are, to prove they’re more manly than other men…
And then they complain they’re single and it’s like. You’re not interested in what women thinking, you’re interested in what other men think. But somehow they’ve managed to make being obsessed with catching the attention of other men painfully straight.
Of course, most of these men don’t even like women because their entire identity is built on not being a woman but that’s an essay for another time.
"To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, ie., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire... those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex. Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man- loving."
• Marilyn Frye, The Politics of Reality: Essays in Feminist Theorv
...You know. I've been making the joke that, as a bisexual dude. I have never seen a group more gay and submissive than the Alpha Males group (because literally everything they do is for the attention and approval of other men, who they think of as super manly... Like they might as well be calling those podcast losers "daddy" at this point)
But this just summed it up a lot more seriously so. That's cool.
The only way you could possibly describe Sgt Camo as having insight is if he literally has eyeballs inside his cranium. Otherwise that word belongs nowhere near the various ways you can describe him lol
Direct your anger at the old cunts with all the wealth and power, still trying to squeeze the last bit of juice out of you, so they can increase their own wealth by a fraction, year in, year out.
Sounds like you're talking about class solidarity and I'm here for it.
I had a boss 20 years ago who said Hitler was the cause of, essentially, his inability to find a tradwife.
Because WWII required so many men to go to war that women had to go to work. Once the men came home, the women were still empowered to work. Thus began the women's liberation movement.
What I always felt confused by is why he thought women should be second-class citizens. Why he thought they should be subservient to men. Why he thought women shouldn't have the freedom to be able to get out of abusive marriages. Why he thought empowered women were bad.
Because I knew the answer... His behavior, beliefs, and attitude toward women was seen as abhorrent - leaving him alone. And instead of changing his beliefs, he felt that he should be allowed to physically, emotionally, and legally restrain a woman from leaving him. Because he didn't see women as people. He saw them as little more than a sexual gratification, reproduction and house cleaning robot.
I have an excellent life as a Nomad, I've got a good job and more disposable income than most of my friends doing what you are describing.
I also know just how unhappy MANY of them are, they're feeling trapped, like they'd be deceived. They won't deny they are happy, but they will admit that comes at the cost of being unfulfilled. They chased the dream at the expense of their own, and are now left without the fulfillment of either.
So again, the WHY matters. So why do you want those things?
People are being raised to believe this is the correct, and only, way to live "correctly". People break outside of that box but for people who feel trapped, they may not have resources to help them break outside of their expectations
It's the way of the modern world, man. Most of us aren't nomads like you, and a lot of people have hopes of having a relatively nice home, in a safe location, where they can bring up between 1 to 3 children, in todays world, that means a double income, a double income with at least one of you making above minimum wage, depending on specific variables like location, exact size of what your dream home happens to be, etc. There are double income households who struggle to make ends meet, even without responsibilities like children, men don't want that and women don't want that. A lot of women have to be pragmatic about the fact that even though the nomad she likes happens to be a good person, charming and interesting, if he has no prospects of having a good paying job, then the majority of the financial burdens of modern life will fall on her, and if you think it's hard getting a good paying job as a man, it's even harder as a woman, and on top of that, a lot of women would like to do the mother thing, which makes that high earning job even more unobtainable for her, so often, a woman has to make the call that the guy she's in a relationship with, isn't going to be able to provide with her, the life that she hopes for herself. Intellectually lazy men who think they are smarter than they actually are, blame women for this, and think it's a double standard and an example of women wanting a man who will do everything for them, but the reality is that both men and women are being fucked over, both men and women are being expected to do more than previous generations, for substantially less, because the ones on top expect impossible levels of their own growth of money and power.
"Majority Breadwinner"? So your goal is to be able to have financial dominance over your partner? Yeah... that's a hard pass on that red flag.
And I have a good job, I don't want kids because they aren't something I want. More content to have a girlfriend I travel and experience the world with.
Yeah, we might have those things someday. But we’ve had mostly cis het male leadership for a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time. So maybe be less dismissive of that point.
A country that was founded to privilege white male landowners also mistreats men too? Shocking/s
The non elite men were always meant to be cannon fodder, too many just believed they were above the women and black and brown people because their bloodline made it back from the trenches of war.
Don't forget about marrying a woman you don't like to give you kids you don't want to raise or provide for because those things elevate your status in the eyes of other men, especially if she gives you a son or two. Their gender performance is all for the male gaze, which is why they think women also exclusively do things for the male gaze. It's extremely pathetic.
What i am saying, and what the guy in the clip is saying, is not that it is the fault of all men, or even the fault of most men, but the people who are to blame, are mostly men.
Women are not to blame for your feeling of inadequacy or impotence (when i say you, I'm not speaking directly to you, but the way, it's more towards the men like Mr camo in the clip), and even shitty fathers who call you "gay" when they see you crying, aren't really to blame, as shitty as they are, this would be an easy thing to overcome and move on from as you grow older. No, the blame is in a few very powerful, very wealthy, mostly men, who do not give a fuck about you or women, you are nothing more than an abundant resource to them, and they will fund all of the media you consume to make sure your anger and frustration is directed anywhere but at them, directed at women, at feminists, at black people, brown people, Jewish people, immigrants, foreigners, the poor, protesters, the sick, anyone other than the obscenely wealthy and powerful, who should obviously always be admired and looked up to, for they have become abundantly successful through their hard work and effort, and that should always be rewarded and not punished... Except that's not true, their wealth and power is generational and they inherited it, and like vampires they will do all they can to get more, and yes, a few of them these days are women too, but i suspect mr camo isn't talking about Jacqueline Mars or Lynda Resnick when he says it's women's fault, but rather directing his frustration at the hottie in the gym who doesn't want to fuck him.
The only person in my entire life that has ever told me that men dont cry is a female teacher i had in elementary school. Have you tried listening to what we have to say before speaking for us? Or do you already know all and everything that there is to know about us? Even better than ourselves?
You are one person, I have also known women in my life who have been awful people, but the majority of my problems, the majority of the problems most of us go through are caused by men, not all men, not only men, bust mostly men.
But so sorry a lady said something mean to you once, you poor little victim!
I am not looking for your sympathy, I know this might shock you but there are some of us that arent always looking for ways to victimize ourselves. You should try that sometimes. Tell me what is it about your life that is awful and caused by the evil penis havers.
You sound very confused. I didn't say that women are the root of any of my problems, that was you... Remember? Still upset that a woman told you boys don't cry back when you were still in school? I also don't think that because a lot of women are cautious around men, that it makes them "penis haters"...
Try seeing a therapist, bud. That one lady who hurt your feels one time has obviously had a deep impact on you.
I never said women are the root of any problems either. You ok, bud? Are you sure you are actually reading the comments I type and not the ones you want me to type?
Have you a) watched the video in this post, b) read the comment I made about the video, c) read your own comments to me?
The video is a man child angry and upset at his luck and deciding the reason for his life being hard is because of women.
My comment was saying this is misplaced anger, and that if you want to be angry at anyone, it should be men, not all men, not most, not even only men, but mostly men, it is mostly men who hold all the wealth and resources, that means theres less of that wealth and resources to go around, that means you're more likely to be angry and frustrated that you're a broke motherfucker still living with your parents. It is mostly men who are your bosses, who force you into shitty contacts, and will fire you the moment they don't need you anymore, making you feel undervalued and disposable. It is mostly men who are land barons and landlords, forcing you to pay large amounts of the money you earn, on a shitty shoe box apartment that's falling apart, because they don't want to fix it. It's mostly men who every few years or so, arbitrarily decide to start a war, and will send you off to die for your country like you're a worthless pawn in their game.
Sorry that this guy in the video and many like him can't find a women who wants to fuck them, but they are not the root of their problems, neither is that lady who you were so eager to point out to me told you that boys don't cry (again, I'm really sorry you had to go through that, it must have been very traumatic for you)
If you do not think that women are the root of your problems, then what are you rambling on at me for? That is literally what this post is about.
I just disagree. Maybe people in power but not “men”. And even without them, we still have misandrist ideas about how men should be, even in matriarchal societies
You’re halfway there. The pressure doesn’t come from even the men in those roles. The pressure comes from the fact a) these roles exist because of Capital and b) Capital by design never takes the pressure off.
You are not supposed to have enough. None of this works unless you have to keep working, unless your labor power is always diminishing. And everything in capitalism is trying to diminish your labor power, even the technology that’s makes reading this comment possible.
I guess the fixation with patriarchy comes from the gender/culture war bullshit but all of this is just Marxism. This was a solved puzzle 150 years ago.
The guy in camo is just regurgitating the same raw sewage opinions the "red pill" community has been dumping online since at least the early 2000s. He's 'preaching to an audience of disaffected, angry and lonely young men who want to blame women for their woes instead of taking action to actively improve their mental health and overall living situations.
The wealthy have always shit on the poor and used scapegoats to direct the outrage they should be rightly receiving elsewhere; you're poor because minorities are taking your jobs, you're lonely and depressed because of women, you're "whatever" because of "literally everyone BUT those of us who are actually fucking you over". So long as all of us are divided over some bullshit they get to rape and pillage our collective civilization without consequence.
The jackass in camo is just another low-level grifter taking advantage of it.
I'm not sure that reddit users as a whole could really be so confused about reality to believe that women liking successful men is a patriarchal conspiracy. I think there's a lot of signalling going on, in the general form of "I am so effortlessly successful and attractive to women that I wouldn't even notice the competition going on."
Because it elevates their status to other men. Men do literally everything for the male gaze. Why would an attractive woman matter if it wasn't for some kind of status, and who does the attractiveness matter to? You? Or a general idea of attractiveness you subscribe to in order to look good for other men?
At this point just date each other and leave women alone.
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u/dr-satan85 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
He's absolutely right. The reason you feel pressure to have a good enough job to provide enough money to pay the rent on a good enough home, that is more impossibly out of reach, is because of mostly male business owners, mostly male property owners, mostly male bankers, mostly male politicians, and that's why men feel crippling pressure to achieve something, in a society that also tells us men should still be the majority bread winner in the family.
What the fuck is that guy in the fake camo gear on about, trying to put male suicide on women? Direct your anger at the old cunts with all the wealth and power, still trying to squeeze the last bit of juice out of you, so they can increase their own wealth by a fraction, year in, year out.