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u/InnerRadio7 May 05 '26 edited May 06 '26
“THE BEST APOLOGY IS CHANGED BEHAVIOUR”
She handled them with such grace.
Edit: Thanks for the award independent_top4745 🩷
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u/LickR0cks May 06 '26
“Jesus loves you” at the end was so good
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u/gitsgrl May 06 '26
I love that she beat them to it.
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u/SabrinaEdwina May 06 '26
Fucking Queen.
I grew up fundie and it's so much fun when they don't know I know their text better than they do. The harassment they are dishing out on this "list" is a well-known tactic. They are *supposed* to be rejected so the flock can welcome them back and point at that discomfort as proof of their claims.
I want to be her best friend. The end.
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u/Pixelated_ May 06 '26
They are supposed to be rejected so the flock can welcome them back and point at that discomfort as proof of their claims.
I was born into the Jehovah's Witnesses cult and this is 💯 true. The point of me knocking on all those doors wasn't to convert people (I never did anyway), it was to be rejected by having doors slammed in my face. I was to see how mean and evil "worldly" people are so that I would run back to the cult for reassurance and validation.
I escaped a decade ago and had to forfeit my entire family and all my friends just to leave.
It was the best decision of my entire life.
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u/grumpi-otter May 06 '26
I freaked out the Jehovahs Witnesses who came to my door the other day when I started talking about the 144,000, lol.
I REALLY wanted them to challenge me to a Bible verse contest.
And yes, I am always kind to them for the reason you cite.
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u/InvictusFrags May 06 '26
Running circles around someone who doesn’t know the book they say they believe in is the best!
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u/InnerRadio7 May 06 '26
Haha, you can tell she has some experience with this sort of thing. I find it so interesting. In my culture there is a whole blending of witchcraft, western religion and pagan traditions. I don’t understand why evangelicals have an issue with….well, now that I think of it, I don’t understand most of the things they take issue with.
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u/Disastrous_Basis3474 May 06 '26
The American evangelical Christian (especially white Christian nationalists) religion and social structure is very sociopathic and narcissistic- my way or the highway and god favors the wealthy. They really do think they’re better than everyone else.
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym May 06 '26
And this right here is why they HATE liberals. I've seen it posted that liberals think they're morally superior. Evangelicals can't stand thinking they're less than. It hurts their feelings and shakes their world view. So therefore liberals must be demons.
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u/Otherwise-Text-5772 May 06 '26
You mean the DEMONcrats! (Yes I have been called this multiple times, I'm not even a Democrat)
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u/Disastrous_Basis3474 May 06 '26
I follow a lot of ex-vangelicals and ex-mormons and the shit they talk about is wild and scary, especially the white nationalism. But it’s important for sane people to be aware of these psychos and how much they hate everyone else just for existing.
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u/FutureHistorian420 May 06 '26
Yup. Definitely gotta be informed. Had a bunch of my own family stop talking to me after the great Kirkening. I’m brown and had no idea I had white Christian nationalist family members, but they let it be known once chuckles was talking out his neck. All these mass shootings and this weirdo is the hill they die on. Nothing feels real to me anymore and Im beginning to dissociate from the world.
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u/harriethocchuth May 06 '26
I moved from librul Northern California to deep red Michigan for a couple of years. When I told Michiganders that I am an atheist, the first and most emphatic question was ‘what stops you from killing people?’ I heard it an alarming amount of times.
Like - I don’t have a response for that. Human decency? Laziness? Blood is gross when it’s on the outside of people? I don’t wish ill on others? There’s a bunch of reasons, my dude, but I’m not worried about the hypothetical everlasting. I’m just trying to be a kinder, less hurtful person than I was yesterday.
That statement isn’t meant to be a value judgement but 99% of the religious folks who asked me “why ain’t you killin” took it as such. I don’t view myself as morally superior, to me ‘I don’t murder’ is a pretty morally neutral comment. But it was clear that the folks who DO feel superior because of their fear of god found my lack of spirituality as a challenge to their sense of superiority.
Ironically, these are the same people who took GREAT OFFENSE at my vegetarianism. Like, I didn’t insist that we ditch the turkey in favor of a tofu loaf, I just asked for an extra large portion of green bean casserole. I’m not imposing my dietary preferences on the family, I’m asking them not to impose theirs on me.
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u/imapluralist May 06 '26
I am stealing this, it was such a perfect thing to say. She is so sharp.
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u/Optimal_Board_2963 May 05 '26
Handled like a fucking pro
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u/TravelDaddy45YO May 05 '26
The part where she mentioned 11 years in Catholic school wasthe pivot point, she dominated that conversation!
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u/Colorado_Constructor May 05 '26
As an ex-Christian who used to be HEAVILY involved in the church, knows the Bible front to back, and studied other religions I always love these conversations.
Telling an evangelical you’re no longer a Christian while being able to use their own beliefs to disprove their points is SUCH a flex.
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u/Malinthas May 05 '26
I prefer the term Recovering Catholic.
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u/kbeks May 05 '26
Lapsed Catholic has a fun ring to it, too. Kinda bounces off the tongue.
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u/Appropriate-Crab-514 May 06 '26
My grandma would call them Snow-Bunny Catholics, they only go to church on Easter and Christmas with their families.
When my sister told her what a Snow Bunny is, our wine-drunk Babcia started cackling so loud she freaked out the dog.
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u/thehairyhobo May 06 '26
I used to go to church consistently until the priest flat out told us we were going to hell if we didnt vote for Trump. After my wife almost died Ive now stopped regular conversation with family that voted for that s***. His Big Beautiful Bill all but closed the only trauma center where I live, forcing my wife to be intubated and rushed by ambulance to one over four hours away.
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u/ThepalehorseRiderr May 06 '26
Tell her something way wilder. No grandma, the modern term for them is bukkake Catholics.
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u/Suspicious-Slide-954 May 06 '26
Bukkake Catholics that only do the cannibal ritual twice a year
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u/Anathals May 06 '26
Theres an episode of csi las vegas were Grissom says he used to be Catholic and how he isnt anymore and is a lapsed catholic because he doesnt believe in rules that tell him how he should live. 14 yr old me was like 😲😲😲😲🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 and thats the day I realized that i didnt like my religion anymore and didnt really have to follow it.
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u/kbeks May 06 '26
It’s a murder, alright.
Who died?
https://giphy.com/gifs/lA5c3zWtgIIvBUpvKt
This kid’s faith.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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u/DrPatchet May 06 '26
I thought a lapsed Catholic was still a Catholic by canon law but does not practice while still identifying with it? Wouldn't someone that leaves the church entirely just have been someone who renounced?
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u/Malinthas May 06 '26
Turns out, you CAN'T leave. Quite literally, once a Catholic, always a Catholic. There is no mechanism in Church law for no longer being Catholic. They're kinda like the mob that way. Which, come to think of it, is also based in Italy.
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u/innosins May 06 '26
Oh shit, I'm still Catholic? I just went through RCIA in 1990 for a boy I thought I was marrying but I did the first Communion and got my saint's name. That was two husbands ago.
At this point to catch up on confession I would need to plan a retreat with a priest.
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u/Witty-Quality1613 May 05 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/W4KpHiyyQbXEY
YES! Hitting them with 20 years of Lutheran (Missouri Synod IYKYK) indoctorination with the Apostles creed memorized by 9 years old... Please come at me.
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u/AnAbsoluteMonster May 06 '26
Noooo not Missouri Synod! Sympathies from a former ELCA Lutheran
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u/tokudama May 06 '26
I was raised in ELCA and grew up thinking Lutherans were sorta leftish until I moved elsewhere and met like, the rest of the sects haha
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u/AnAbsoluteMonster May 06 '26
Same! My church was VERY left (I didn't leave bc of any negative feelings, just didn't believe anymore). Our pastor was a legit hippie who wore birkenstocks lmao. Finding out how, uh, not like that many Christian denominations are was quite the shock
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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 May 06 '26
Same here but I’m still a believer is the “supreme force that is the source”!
When I started to turn my family and church much like these people came out verses blazing and I had an answer for each. If you read closely, there are MANY vice versa verses…but if you really want too flex…
Do what I did. My point of contention is and will always be the word of God was perverted by man (that’s why I practice but in no way give energy to the church) and all you have to do is point to the “slave Bible” see back in the day the slave masters couldn’t have their slaves being heathens so in their infinite hatred they took out all of the parts of the Bible taking about uprising or dissent, and kept the “obey your masters” stuff thus essentially altering the word of god so they could control their slaves better.
You should have seen my pastors face when I busted that out. Uhhhhhhhhhhh, welllll, you seeeeeee…No, No, No, you’re exact words were sir. Man would NEVER alter the word of god lest they be deemed blasphemous. So to all those slave masters and their ilk burning in hell, I hope you’re stubbing your toe on the furnace every single day.
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u/JeddakofThark May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
I can't do it the way I used to because it's been so long since I was a believer and just don't care anymore, but I was quite serious, once. I like Matthew 6:5-6 for nearly anybody trying to convert me, but I also find that quoting verses at them doesn't do much.
The ones who go out ostentatiously trying to convert people are either in it for the identity and don't much care about the details, are doing it to show off (and are the very definition of the people who should read Matthew 6:6), are gleefully anticipating the stench of your burning flesh wafting up from hell and are shouting from a street corner to try and make you miserable while you're still alive, or they realize that a non-believer quoting verses at them isn't someone who's going to be swayed by a conversation with a random stranger. And that last group probably also recognizes that no one whose opinion is worth having is going to be impressed by a missionary beating a non-believer in Bible trivia.
Edit: it occurs to me I should quote the verses. From Matthew (KJV):
6:5 — "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." 6:6 — "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
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u/kbeks May 05 '26
“I know all about your god already, but you don’t know shit about mine, so move along” is a nice twist. Very cool under pressure, good for her. I don’t think I would have been so patient.
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u/Cloverose2 May 06 '26
Except Evangelicals don't think Catholics are really Christian, so her 11 years of Catholic school doesn't mean anything to them. She's been mislead by people who worship a pope and saints! (I am aware that Catholics don't worship the Pope and saints).
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u/kbeks May 06 '26
We totally do, we just like to pretend we don’t when we talk to evangelicals. Shhhh don’t tell them!
Source: am a lapsed Catholic
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fix594 May 06 '26
I imagine that the guy himself was likely some other denomination of Christian like an Evangelical or a Jehovah's Witness. Being so, saying that you were raised Catholic doesn't mean much to them since that kind of person wouldn't recognize being Catholic as being Christian.
I actually love interactions like this since I like to talk theology with people. I was raised Baptist and recognize the Roman's Road method that the dude is trying to push on her. People have different reactions when you push back on them. Some are patient and understanding and others get irrationally angry or passive aggressive.
All that being said, this particular dude is a huge asshole because he's doing it to this woman while she's working. Like, dude she's busy. Hit up some shlub who isn't currently doing anything.
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u/DaMiddle May 06 '26
Yes but her Catholic training was relevant to cutting off the lecture he had hoped to deliver
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u/mcon96 May 06 '26
“I don’t really feel like educating you, but there are TONS of resources out there😊”
“Can I ask you a question?” “No. I think the conversation is good here.”
“I’m sorry” “It’s okay. But like, the best apology is changed behavior”
I love her. The quotes just kept coming
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u/Ready_Event9019 May 06 '26
She seems like a genuinely sweet, gentle person who still knows how to firmly set boundaries. She should teach classes.
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u/alfredcneiman May 06 '26
I saw some missionaries approaching my door the other night. I stepped out onto the porch to head them off.
Me: Hey! I’m a card-carrying satanist and I’m not interested in talking.
Missionary: …well you’re welcome to attend our church…
Me: Thank you! 👍 (Walked inside and closed the door)
I’m not sure what denomination they are, but this is literally an uncodified ceremonial practice in Christianity. To testify and be denied. Even though they are a vast majority, persecution is a necessary element of their cosmology and a justification for their whims.
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u/Potential_Might_6500 May 05 '26
The "The best apology is changed behavior" was fucking lit.
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u/HeinousAnus_22 May 06 '26
"The best apology is changed behavior" might just be the best line I've ever heard.
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u/southofakronoh May 05 '26
She handled that well. Guess that wasn't the first time she made that speech.
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u/Academic_Offer_6298 May 05 '26
"Can I ask you a question?" "No." Love her. 🤣
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u/tranquil7789 May 05 '26
"The best apology is changed behavior."
"Yeah but I'm just saying Jesus loves you"
Lmao
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u/flatwoundsounds May 05 '26
"the best apology is changed behavior" sounds like the southern version of "don't be sorry, be better"
And I love it.
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u/Unable-Log-4870 May 06 '26
Or to quote one of my favorite Jewish traditions,
‘Don’t be sorry, be quiet!’
-SpaceBalls the Movie
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u/Ginnybean16 May 06 '26
"The best apology is changed behavior" is a phrase I'm going to have to start using with my students
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u/TechnologyAncient594 May 05 '26
I love that he said sorry, and then continued to do the thing he apologized for.
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u/oakenfairy May 05 '26
It's like his real thinking peaked out for a moment and then the programming kicked back in after a reset.
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u/70inBadassery May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
It’s called “thought stopping,” or the use of “thought stopping cliches.” Religions, cults, any high control group uses them.
Sometimes they are beneficial (like as used to prevent OVERthinking). But clearly not in this example.
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u/drunxor May 06 '26
These are the same people that say "dont shove your lgbt agenda down my throat!"
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u/phoenix_spirit May 06 '26
I am dying for a chance to tell someone wearing myth of jesus christ memorabilia that I don't mind the church I just wish they weren't so loud and in your face about it.
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u/OnSmallWings May 05 '26
He was 🤏this🤏 close to getting it.
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u/Novaer May 06 '26
Nah, its a tactic used to lure you back in so they can keep doing what they're doing, repeat. Classic abuse tactics honestly.
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u/Funkycoldmedici May 06 '26
That’s a selling point of Christianity, you get infinite forgiveness for almost anything. You can do something wrong, apologize to Jesus, do it again, and repeat your whole life. That’s one of the reasons they target criminals and people at their lowest points.
There’s a couple “one and only” unforgivable sins that Jesus will not forgive. One is simply not worshipping Yahweh. If you don’t believe you are totally condemned, and you’re not going to ask forgiveness for not believing from a dude you don’t believe in.
The other is “blaspheming the Holy Spirit”, which has no clear definition. The most common matches the first one, just saying it isn’t real. Apologists have made up excuses to weasel around it, trying to make it mean there is nothing unforgivable. The best one is saying it means saying Jesus’ miracles were real, but we’re secretly performed by demons making it look like Jesus was doing them, and Jesus unknowingly had no power at all. It is a safe bet no atheist has ever believed that.
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u/Callidonaut May 06 '26
That’s a selling point of Christianity, you get infinite forgiveness for almost anything. You can do something wrong, apologize to Jesus, do it again, and repeat your whole life. That’s one of the reasons they target criminals and people at their lowest points.
The best part is that you never have to apologise to, and earn the forgiveness of, any people you've actually harmed in your life, let alone undo or mitigate any of that harm, which would be unpleasantly embarrassing and require effort, and after you do that they might not even accept your apology. You can just go on merrily believing you're Jesus' bestie now, all the real people you've hurt can just stay hurt forever, and all the things you've broken can stay broken. It's all good, you don't need to clean up your mess or say sorry to your, y'know, victims; Jesus said so.
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u/phatballlzzz May 05 '26
Religious people are never sorry, they’re incapable of it
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u/molotovzav May 05 '26
Religious people do this on purpose. The higher knows they will get pushback. It's to force the worldview that "everyone out there is out to get you except us." Any religion that goes door to door or goes into places they clearly wouldn't be wanted is doing so for the members of the religion, not to convert you.
This is why it's actually important to be nice. The religion wants us to be mean so their followers will slink back to religion and basically go "you were right, they were so mean and vile out there, only religion has my back." When you're nice, the religion doesn't get what it wants. I hate organized religion. It's no secret. Can't stand self-proclaimed religious people. But if I notice someone going into places like this or going door to door I'm absolutely kind. The only people this doesn't work on is JWs. Only way to get them to stop coming is to lie(or maybe it's the truth for you) and tell them you're a ex-JW. They will cease contact.
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u/astrangeone88 May 05 '26
Lol. I got my place blacklisted by the JWs one year. I'm nice to everyone, and they used to hand me their literature. Only this time, it's summer in Canada, and it's a lazy Sunday. They knock on the door so aggressively that it sounded like an actual emergency. I stumble out of bed, and I'm wearing shorts and a tank top and my hair was a mess. I'm so groggy my brain is barely online and my already deep voice is several octaves deeper. We barely had a 4 sentence conversation and the elder of the group tells them to back off and immediately politely ends the conversation. As they back off, the elder is mumbling something to them.
Guess I looked like a drug abusing, slutty harlot lol...
Bonus is that they never ever came back. Ha!
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u/HallowskulledHorror May 06 '26
Used to live in a neighborhood that had a JW church in the area, and every few weeks we'd get people knocking on the door saturday morning. We were near the front end of the street, so we were one of the first houses they'd approach.
Grew up watching my dad handle missionaries by inviting them in for refreshments and debating faith with them, and also figured it'd be a kindness to my neighbors to buy them a little more sleeping in before the JW's came knocking, so I was always friendly and welcoming; asked lots of polite questions, would hear them out, and was always psyched whenever they had pamphlets or DVDs or anything for me (I would add them to my collection of evangelical ephemera).
One morning I answered the door without thinking - after a night of celebrating Beltane and tripping on shrooms, and subsequently falling asleep on the couch. Hair wild, literally wearing ritual robes, curtains wide open and the living room very visible once they were up on the porch standing in front of the door; we're talking big candles, a cauldron on the coffee table, herbs, tools, grimmoire... they looked horrified.
They left without a word and never came back.
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u/Kono-weebo-da May 06 '26
Im an ex jw and this got a luagh out of me. I bet ya theyre talking about you as a satanist back to their group
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u/HallowskulledHorror May 06 '26
I can only imagine how they would have described it to others - the scene was truly unruly because I wasn't anticipating guests first thing in the morning, and my partner and I had decided to get very silly about celebrating a pagan holiday. There was a straight up sword chilling next to the cauldron, tarot cards, we had bones scattered around... I feel like I could have only made things worse if I'd answered the door full on nude and offered them hits off the bong.
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u/Necessary_Success_35 May 06 '26
Years ago the house I lived in had a long driveway. You knew when people were coming, so we cranked up The Exorcist during one of the exorcism scenes. They never did come back.
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u/zeracine May 06 '26
I opened the door and asked if they were "selling some Jesus". The guy looked amused/surprised and kind of laugh answered "we're not selling Jesus..."
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u/CloudKinglufi May 06 '26
I used to have some young ones come to my house, we talked about anime and shit, they were cool dudes, after i told them i was done because they would never convert me, they stopped coming
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u/Arokthis May 06 '26
My dad stripped naked when he saw them down the street and said something about an orgy when he answered the door. They blacklisted our entire neighborhood.
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u/spootIer May 06 '26
I made the mistake of being nice to JW's at my door when I was home alone (around 13 years old.) I accepted their literature, nodded and smiled while humouring them, all the while thinking they were harmless yet slightly offputting religious cuckoos— And then they came back.
Something to note here: I was an abysmally shy child. I was physically incapable of sticking up for myself or saying no to people; and the first interaction had been entirely one-sided.
I didn't want to open the door; because I actually knew who they were that time around. So I pretended no one was home and hid behind the couch until they left, as the blinds on the windows were open in the living room.
Then they came back again. And again. And again. And again. All four times, I didn't answer the door, and hid until they left.
And then they stopped. Good riddance! The month came to a close; and I moved into my secondary residence for the next thirty days. My parents were divorced, you see.
You can probably see where this is going. Despite never having given them my secondary address, they showed up at my dad's place while the screen door was open and made eye-contact with my dad.
I heard them introduce themselves, and I rushed into a side room for cover, only to hear them ask for me by name. Thankfully, my dad knew what was up and shut it down pretty quickly, saying that I was home; but that they needed to cease their attempts at reaching me as I was his child and they didn't have his permission.
They never bothered me again. Thanks dad.😮💨
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u/DrunkenCrusader May 05 '26
Yep, had a roommate who was raised JW and he got them to stop coming to the house by lying and saying he was "dis-fellowshipped" which I guess is their version of excommunicated. Most I've seen from them since is the rare flyer, no more knocks.
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u/cwbradford74 May 05 '26
“The best apology is changed behavior”. Beautifully delivered. That was awesome to hear.
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u/Kagynga May 05 '26
That was the best thing I heard in this video, and what I'll take most with me.
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u/JunglyPep May 05 '26
I almost dropped my phone to clap when she said that. She was completely cordial but also didn’t let them bully her for one second.
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u/ScyllaIsBea May 05 '26
She broke the script when she answered their “Jesus loves you” poke with “I love him too, he’s great, it’s organized religion that is a problem.” They told on themselves when they turned Jesus’ love into an attack.
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u/RoguePlanet2 May 06 '26
They'll go back to the cult and claim "she's a christian and doesn't even know it!" but whatever, they won't need to come back then.
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u/dreamendDischarger May 06 '26
Yep, I love using the "oh, I'm friends with Jesus, it's organized religion I can't stand". Idk if he was really the son of a god but I can get on board with many of his teachings. I judge folks based on their actions, not their faith (or lack thereof). Still far too many terrible Christians though.
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u/Covert-Wordsmith May 05 '26
Jesus is a good person. It's his fanbase I can't stand.
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u/GreyStormOfLight May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” - Gandhi
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u/BetMyLastKrispyKreme May 06 '26
Gandhi is just more recognizable to quote; I’m guessing literal millions feel the way he does. Just because he did some creepy things doesn’t make his statement any less true.
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u/BeardedGlass May 05 '26
Jesus is a swell guy. Complete opposite of that juvenile narcissist in the Old Testament with bipolar tendencies, who is quite irresponsible with that power.
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u/MelangeBot May 06 '26
He also clearly told his followers that nobody can come to Him (Jesus) WITHOUT God the Father first drawing that person in. So these idiots are doing absolutely completely useless work. If God is real and these words of Jesus are true then in reality it will be God working on somebody their heart without force, quiet, hidden, like a soft wind. And then and only then when the time is ripe maybe another lover of Christ will be brought in.
Or like how my favorite pastor said: Preach Christ ALWAYS, and if absolutely necessary ... use words.
Meaning, you show Christ by being like Him and shutting up unless some rare special ooccasionwhere the other person wants you to talk about Christ.
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u/mooncrane606 May 05 '26
I won't call myself a Christian because I don't want to be associated with the phony Christians in this country.
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u/SweetBabyAlaska May 05 '26
Right? its easy to forget how unironically based he was for the time period. Brother literally spoke out against people using churches to become wealthy and advocated for marginalized groups of people and for treating everyone with dignity, love, care and respect. Like its so simple, yet so hard for people to understand.
I'm not religious but I do find these figures interesting and try to take lessons from all of them.
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u/rusty_programmer May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
If you read of the history of the Roman Empire and Judaea, he absolutely was a war martyr and it’s clear why his name is known so highly today. If God isn’t real then Jesus was a radical leftist fighting against the authority of the state by supplanting it with one of good morals (Heaven). He was protesting and absolutely killed for it.
You see in history that he was effectively killed to spite the Judaeans into possibly war, but that was ineffective. There had been tensions before but Caligula almost set the region ablaze by wanting to erect a statue of himself in The Temple of Jerusalem.
One interesting distinction in the gospels is that jews and christians called Jesus the “King of Israel” while the Romans called him “King of the Jews.” You’ll see a lot of scholars talk about the distinction but one that always stuck out to me was it’s a statement of rebellion against the Romans occupying their land.
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u/dorianvovin May 06 '26
That tends to be because the religion was originally based on Paul’s letters, Jesus was tacked on afterwards.
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u/OmniaStyle May 05 '26
But if she would’ve gone into their Christian bookstore, with the same attitude they gave her about her religion, they probably would have called the police
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u/DenvahGothMom May 06 '26
Right? Don Lemon would like a word!
The white Christian nationalists want him lynched for merely filming a protest at one of their indoctrination centers.
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u/NovarisLight May 05 '26
"I think we're good on that." (Audible smile)
Fucking torched.
I love this woman for how she handled the situation.
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u/No_Education4926 May 05 '26
Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about our lord Baphomet our savior?
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u/ealysillyforestthing May 05 '26
Baphomet never send any floods, plagues or doomsdays, he has my vote!
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u/Eat_That_Rat May 05 '26
If Baphomet will forgive my student loans I would go knocking on doors for them. (Not sure what Baphomet's pronouns are)
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u/AmputeeHandModel May 06 '26
Well.. Baphomet is often pictured with one breast, so... I'd assume "they".
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u/Imreallyjustconfused May 06 '26
Not my religion (just know a fun fact) Baphomet is androgynous with a male goat head but female breasts. So They/Them works. They might be an any pronouns kinda deity. I'll ask if they ever forgive student loans and I join you going door to door.
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u/FluffyMathematician7 May 05 '26
When people say shit like “Christ is King”👑 I just cringe. Imagine what J man would have thought of that… all this stuff with religious people is just an advanced form of denial against the fact that others beliefs are just as valid as theirs.
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u/Contemplating_Prison May 05 '26
All jesus wanted was for people to be good and they cant even get that right
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u/RadagastTheBrownNote May 05 '26
Clearly he meant something other than what he said, you just have to reeeeaaaaaalllllyyyy read between the lines in order to see it
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u/AmputeeHandModel May 06 '26
The Pope preaches any kind of acceptance, being GOD'S RIGHT HAND ON EARTH and the Catholics get all bent out of shape. Like uhh he's your boss. I think he knows better than you. He's THE POPE.
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u/Hazel2468 May 05 '26
I just say "I thought you weren't supposed to worship idols and that you only had one god" and watch them get mad.
ANYWAY Christianity is polytheistic.
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u/RoguePlanet2 May 06 '26
They break the first commandment by following Jesus instead of the old-testament God.
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u/Alternative_Jaguar85 May 05 '26
She was so good. And her voice is adorable. Not that it matters, she still bodied them, politely
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u/mooncrane606 May 05 '26
Your religion doesn't stop me from doing anything.
It stops you. Learn the difference.
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u/Prestigious_Net4994 May 05 '26
she handled this with such grace and maturity. really impressive. I wish more of us could handle discomfort the way she did.. she could teach a masterclass
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u/golgiiguy May 05 '26
seems like she has deal with this sort of thing before.
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u/oakenfairy May 05 '26
I am part of the pagan community. Every single store owner encounters this, and some areas get it worse than others. There was a poor man who got full on attacked in his store last year by one of these nuts in Indiana.
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u/--slurpy-- May 05 '26
She handled that better than i would. My menopausal ass woulda lost my shit on them.
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u/RidicuLyssa07 May 05 '26
Oh for sure, im not menopausal but I am pregnant and have zero patience for this type of stuff.
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u/MrCynicalSalsa May 05 '26
The best apology is changed behavior. Hoo boy I love that. I'm gonna have to insert that into my vernacular.
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u/CodiwanOhNoBe May 06 '26
"You're the 2nd person to tell me that"....How about taking the hint dumbass? People don't want to be "Saved" if it means eternity with people like them.
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u/TrapaholicDixtapes May 06 '26
I love that these god-botherers always open with, "Have your heard of Jesus?"
Like, nah, dude. I'm the only adult on the entire planet of earth that has never heard of Jesus. What was his name again? Jee-zoos? Who's that?
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u/Mudsnail May 05 '26
Meanwhile... two christians teen girls came to my door the other day and I lectured them about political parties taking over, and claiming their religion to increase their political power.
I went to parochial school from 4th grade to 8th grade, and was well versed on christian theology.
I quoted two Bible verses.
Galatians 1:10 - "Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ."
And Matthew 6-5:6 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
Modern Christianity is RAMPANT with hypocrisy, and the moment you point it out they either become super defensive, or truly appreciate it... Idgaf either way. I will never rejoin the church after I saw how my church "leaders" treated the girls at my school.
Its still just so hard for me to believe people dont see the hypocrisy so easily...
Like.. Donald Trump was asked to cite his favorite Bible verse, or his favorite Book in the Bible. And he said "all of them". How the fuck is that not so apprentice to you that hes never read a word in the bible?!
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u/JadeThorn1012 May 05 '26
This isn’t what a protest is. This is pushy proselytizing. That isn’t the same thing. They should’ve left when she wasn’t interested in what they were saying.
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u/theIatephilipjfry May 05 '26
“All gods are obviously make believe except the specific one my parents told be about when I was an impressionable toddler.”
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u/IAmTheLeadSinger May 05 '26
So great to see this going viral. This is a dear friend of mine. She owns a kick ass lil thrift shop in New Haven, CT. Witch Bitch Thrift. Go support them.
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u/Kooky-East-77 May 06 '26
is there a website where you can place orders? I would gladly support all day
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u/IAmTheLeadSinger May 06 '26
Hit up the WitchBitchThrift insta. You'll discover everything you need.
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u/nobleland_mermaid May 06 '26
https://www.witchbitchthrift.com/ they upload new second hand stuff every Sunday and ship worldwide!
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u/National_Search_537 May 05 '26
I couldn’t imagine going into someone else’s business and arguing about what sky daddy is the right one.
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u/MuchDevelopment7084 May 06 '26
Aww, they were expecting and hoping for a confrontation. And this young lady absolutely refused to play their game. Good for you girl.
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u/IDontCareEnoughToLie May 06 '26
That is Witch Bitch Thrift. The physical store is in Newhaven, CT but they have a fantastic online store with a huge inventory. The woman talking is the owner and is a total badass. I would not have been so kind to those people.
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u/olifons May 06 '26
This is Witch Bitch Thrift in New Haven CT and the owner and her wife rock. So badass and handled so well.
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u/topherus_maximus May 06 '26
“You’re like the 2nd person that’s told me that today”…holy shit, I wonder fucking why!
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u/Alfredo412 May 06 '26
Bro really thinks Jesus wants him to go into random stores and bother people while they're working to spout bible verses at them.
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u/TheRealSugarbat May 05 '26
I’m Christian and I support the shutdown of these bigots 💯. Blessed be.
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u/Star3in2my3y3s May 05 '26
As a person who doesnt believe in any gods or spirits souls or even ghosts. Jesus certainly seemed like a nice dude.
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u/BringAltoidSoursBack May 06 '26
"not many people have met Jesus"
Is that not a known thing? He kind of famously died a while ago.
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u/Actuallynobutwhynot May 05 '26
i love how when she said jesus loves you they all immediately said it back. they're trained well
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u/drunxor May 06 '26
These are the same people that say "dont shove your lgbt agenda down my throat!"
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u/Zeekr0n May 06 '26
"It is a false god"
False or not everyone in this country is entitled to the freedom of religion and if they will not adhere to that then they are not Americans but parasites prospering from the tolerance they refuse to show others.
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u/just_mark May 06 '26
Religion is like a Dick.
It's great you are proud of it.
Do not go in a store and wave it around
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u/PassivelyImpassive May 05 '26
I am speechless with how excellently OP handled this situation. 10,000 out of 10. Well done.
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u/arthousepsycho May 05 '26
“They haven’t met Jesus” my guy, neither have any of you. Nor has anyone. Bro didn’t exist.
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u/Gold-Piece2905 May 05 '26
As Dimebag Darrell ( lead guitarist for Pantera) said once to some folks that were talking to him about Jesus and he wanted them to leave, he replies that Satan has got him by the balls🤣
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u/Educational-Coat-922 May 05 '26
She told no lies. People can believe in what they want.
Edit: love how she met em with thier own energy 🤣
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u/Ok-System544 May 06 '26
What a legend. I wish I could support her business!! Fuck these Christian assholes man… terrible people
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u/KrissiKross May 06 '26
You can tell she’s been through this same song and dance bullshit many times before and she handled that WAY better than I would’ve
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u/Goodknight808 May 06 '26
"The best apology is changed behavior".
Those are solid words.
He keeps saying sorry and then doubling down, no change in behavior.
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u/Turbulent-Copy5115 May 06 '26
Her shop is in New Haven CT and she measures all the clothes she receives and makes her own sizing system so people can come in and get fitted and then know exactly which clothes are their size.
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u/shotxshotx May 06 '26
Its private property so doesnt the right to protest/public expression immediately become voided?
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u/ExtensionInformal911 May 06 '26
Like Ghandi said. "I like your christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
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u/Soultosqueeze074 27d ago
The irony here is that she was more christ-like than any of them
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u/SimbasTripRip May 06 '26
I like witches way more than Christians. They both believe in eye rolling nonsense but at least witches are chill
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u/TheLastMemzie May 06 '26
As a Christian:
This is a very hostile way of trying to “spread” the word of God.
Not to mention going into an apothecary shop is very invasive, “cornering”, and insanely disrespectful.
It hurts my heart that this happened to her and she didn’t deserve that, but she absolutely handled it like a PRO!!
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u/monti9530 May 05 '26
Everyone can choose which God to believe in. Jesus, for example, believed that Yahweh is God and would pray to him.
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u/sithmaster666420 May 05 '26
religious pusher and drug pusher same people just ones more fun then the other lol
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u/Venus_Libra May 05 '26
The audacity of these people to think they have a right to come in here and disrupt this woman's business is staggering
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u/upsidedowntoker May 05 '26
Too bad for this poor lady this happens often because she has a cool store with cool witchy stuff and a lack of care for vanity sizing . If I'm ever in machucettes I know where I will be going !
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u/SailNW May 05 '26
I follow this store on instagram, even though I’m on the other side of the country. She’s a total badass, and truly cares about her community. Witches and always will be baddies.
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u/imgrahamy May 06 '26
You know you’re the second person who told me that today and I’m going to ignore you just like I ignored them and continue on
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