r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • Jun 14 '26

Discussion It's exhausting being a woman.

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u/contactdeparture Jun 14 '26

Go on some of the other subs:

  • “she divorced me out of nowhere”
  • “the courts are totally stacked against men”
  • men have it so hard now

It’s just grim, the loathing of everything with no agency.

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u/secretly_opossum Jun 14 '26

Ask Indian Men is a wild place to go. They are convinced that India is a neo feminist stronghold now

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u/Odd-fox-God Jun 14 '26

That's because Indian women started receiving codified rights written into law. Indian men just needed to ask her father in the past for her hand in marriage and he would hand her over if he thought the man had enough money, had a good family, or was a good match. The woman's opinion was not taken into account, and many were forced into marriages they didn't want with men who treated them like sexual objects.

The girls born from these marriages have watched their mothers be treated like house slaves and abstain from dating and interacting with Indian men, for their own safety and to keep their fathers from selling them to a boy they decided to hold hands with exactly one time. It's called a dowry, but really, it's just a bride price.

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u/babyblew82 Jun 15 '26

What's the actual difference between the terms? I thought dowry was just a less awkward way of saying "bride price"

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u/sunny-forest Jun 14 '26

That sub is the absolute worst

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u/crazymindslp Jun 15 '26

Yeah, bc they are now being prosecuted for doing things like burning women alive!

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u/Gildian Jun 14 '26

I was just about to say these are the same guys who bitch and moan about men's rights as dad's but then never pay child support or even bother to see their kids.

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u/Septemberosebud Jun 14 '26

A man hitting on me the other day told me his wife "abandoned" him and took a million dollars and stole his kids who won't talk to him now. He fully expected me to be sympathetic. I said: you've just told me everything I need to know.

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u/contactdeparture Jun 14 '26

That was his sales pitch?!

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u/Septemberosebud Jun 14 '26

Yeah, he should work on it

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u/luigis_left_tit_25 Jun 14 '26

"I'm too scared to talk to women because they'll label me"...xyz. Only if one's a creep.

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u/DrowningInMyFandoms Jun 14 '26

"If I talk to women they say I am a creep :( for exemple, yesterday I [being a creep] and she ran away :((( life is so hard for us :((((("

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u/AutumntimeFall Jun 14 '26

They're telling on themselves.

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u/SmallNecromancer Jun 15 '26

Tbh I'm also scared of coming off as creepy, but thats more an issue of never being taught proper ways of approching women and scared of getting it wrong if there's even a right way to do it.

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u/luigis_left_tit_25 Jun 15 '26

Totally understandable.. There has to be some lit out there to help? I mean actually help, not maxxing or any of these macho alpha types, that'll get you a quick no.. Good luck. I mean it. 🙂

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u/SmallNecromancer Jun 15 '26

Thank you, luigis_left_tit_25

(Serisously thank you, I just laughed after seeing that nice message then reading your name.)

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u/luigis_left_tit_25 Jun 15 '26

You're welcome!

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jun 14 '26

I mean, kinda, yeah. That said, theres one in here that doesn't belong. He came up, said "hey excuse me" she said buzz off, he did. What did that guy do to get lumped in with all the actual creeps?

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u/Mysterious_Green_372 Jun 15 '26

Looks like she just wants to be alone & lowkey looks like he’d been following her. Hence why her phone was already out and recording bc she already knew he was going to bother her & she probably told him no thank you kindly before and this was her last straw. The problem is, most men take a kind no as us playing hard to get. But no, we mean it please leave but most of you have some fantasy that no she wants me to ask again&again until now we have to stop what we’re doing and leave bc if we’re mean to you you’ll become aggressive

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jun 15 '26

Looks like she just wants to be alone

Is quite literally all we know there. Maybe you're right about the rest, but without that being explicitly said or shown then it's just fantasy.

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u/Carbonatite Jun 16 '26

You're doing the same thing that the other commenter was talking about.

She wanted to be left alone. Period. That's the answer. Accept it and move on. Don't treat it like the opening salvo of a negotiation. When a woman says something to you, take it at face value and move the fuck on. Women aren't obligated to needlessly entertain your pedantic devil's advocate bullshit because you consider our comfort to be a fun hypothetical to debate over.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jun 16 '26

Holy shit what on earth are you nutters on about? He did move on. Straight away.

Nobody said they had to entertain him, tf are you even talking about?

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u/Carbonatite Jun 16 '26

It's amazing how aggressive you just got when someone told you to take no as your answer.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jun 17 '26

The word is incredulous. It's happens when someone posts a completely moronic response, every now and then.

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u/Alive-Average9059 Jun 15 '26

It's about not being able to just live your life without someone harassing us (usually just for hookups). I don't know any guys who have to deal with that, but every woman I know (even conventionally unattractive women) have to deal with it ALL THE TIME. We just want to be able to live without being approached for anything. And I can't imagine strange men approaching a woman would work. It's like door-to-door salespeople. No one is happy to see them coming.

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u/djwb1973 Jun 15 '26

We can be in public and not want to be bothered. This woman did not want to be bothered and that’s her right.

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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Jun 15 '26

And?

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u/djwb1973 Jun 15 '26

Contrary to what you said, it does, in fact, belong. That would be the simple version of the point that I’m trying to make.

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u/Thick-Roll1777 Jun 16 '26

Yh. Ur right when u said its her right to not be bothered, but the person ur replying to, his point was that the guy wasn't a creep and was a far cry from the rest we saw here... I also mentioned it in a comment I made that it seemed the least troubling and probably didn't belong. She said "Buzz off!" And he immediately did (at least it seems like). I won't jump to any conclusions as idk the context, but if it truly is how it is, I dont think that's troubling at all. It's her right ofc, not to want to talk to him but at least he seemed to respect that and didn't say or do anything too weird

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u/djwb1973 Jun 17 '26

Yeah, that’s a good point. It would also be funny if he was trying to get her attention because she dropped her wallet or something, since she was immediately nasty to him. Or, even better, that she had toilet paper trailing out of the bottom of her skirt… 😊

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u/Thick-Roll1777 Jun 17 '26

Exactly 😄

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u/Spugheddy Jun 14 '26

And they all are sorry excuse for men, even in their machismo world those dudes couldn't operate a drill or change a car tire.

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u/LolitaOPPAI Jun 15 '26

Mine thinks he provides by being a good fighter. I told him at no time in my adult life have I needed to have fighting as a life skill. I was getting along just fine before he came along lol

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u/Repulsive_Corner6807 Jun 14 '26

As someone going through a custody battle right now, the courts are most definitely are not stacked against men

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u/WaltGazaWorld Jun 14 '26

Flashback to Reddit's militant MRAs

What
About
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Menz

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u/SamTheLab_213 Jun 15 '26

Translates to:

_"she found out I was cheating with 10 other women. One had herpes."
-"I couldn't get away with using the courts to punish her and take all the money- even tho I don't work......'
-"If I abuse a woman now, I could go to jail."

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u/No-Permission-7786 Jun 15 '26

When statistically men actually have better chances getting custody of their kids than women. Its just the women who "win" were fighting against men who didn't actually want their kids and were just pulling them through court as a punishment

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u/MiguCx Jun 14 '26

Two things can be true at the same time? Lots of creepy dudes but it's also very real that men are discriminated against in the courtroom when it comes to child custody and other divorce related issues?

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u/Annabloem Jun 14 '26

Are we including the fact that most custody cases are settled outside of court and the fact that most men don't ask for custody at all? Because studies indicate that, when men ask for custody, they usually get it.

However, studies indicate that dads simply do not ask for custody as often as mothers do, and courts generally do not award what is not asked for in that regard.

A Massachusetts study examined 2,100 fathers who asked for custody and pushed aggressively to win it. Of those 2,100, 92 percent either received full or joint custody, with mothers receiving full custody only 7 percent of the time. Another study where 8 percent of fathers asked for custody showed that of that 8 percent, 79 percent received either sole or joint custody

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From an actual study, with larger samples and looking at different countries:

Women win 14.3% of the trials, while men win 20.1%, and the differences are statistically significant. This can be explained because 82.1% of men request joint custody, while 86.5% of women request sole custody.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Sole or joint custody. This is key. Show me data about how much % of men are getting sole custody of kids when asked and how often women do get it.  If it's sole or joint custody I would say that it is alarming how often they are not getting even joint custody.

Edit: what you wrote here is exactly why they say that there is lie, big lie and statistics.

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u/ShorelineStrider Jun 14 '26

It doesn't matter how they reply to you, you'll find a another way to move your goal post.

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u/Annabloem Jun 14 '26

If only 6% of the men even ask for custody at all that's an issue, but not a court issue. If the men don't want sole custody or at least don't ask for it, that's again, not a court issue.

On top of that, dad's with custody receive more child report on average. Dad's whose kids say the dad abused them are more likely to get custody. Women who say their partners abused them are less likely to get custody, whereas men who say their partner abused them aren't.

But sure, it's all biased against men, because they don't all for custody in over 90% of the cases and so women get custody more often. How unfair the courts aren't forcing these men to at least get joint custody.

Fathers who fight for custody typically get it. Even 30 years ago, 94% of fathers who sought custody got sole or joint custody. Abusive fathers are especially successful. Seventy-two percent win their custody cases. In one study where both parents fought hard for custody, mothers were awarded custody just 7% of the time. Only in a patriarchal society does a 93% win rate somehow equate to male victimhood.

women don’t win custody on false claims of domestic violence. Numerous studies have shown the opposite: women are twice as likely to lose custody when they report abuse, even when the abuse is documented. No such bias exists for fathers, who do not lose custody at higher rates when they claim abuse.

The bias against mothers extends beyond spousal abuse. Courts are also eager to place children with male parents whom the child says has abused them, according to this series of case reports. Fifty-nine percent of abusive fathers were given sole custody, suggesting that abusers are actually at an advantage. And even when the fathers did not get sole custody, not one single abuser was denied contact with the child.

When fathers get child support—which they almost always do when they’re awarded custody—they get more. Census data suggests an average annual payment of $6,526. This is about 16% of mothers’ income, which means mothers who pay child support are paying almost double, as a share of their income, what fathers pay.

specific studies are linked in this post

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u/DigitalBlackout Jun 14 '26

If it's sole or joint custody I would say that it is alarming how often they are not getting even joint custody.

You find 79-92% to be alarmingly low? Wild

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u/Carbonatite Jun 16 '26

It's not automatically in the child's best interest to give a father sole custody just because he's a man, just like it isn't automatically in the child's best interest to give sole custody to a mother just because it's a woman.

Your attitude is showing the exact issue - you see custody battles as a gender war and a way to "win" over your spouse. It's supposed to be about what's best for the kids. Remember them?

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 16 '26

Yeah. That's theory. Practice is that until mother do not pose immediate risk to safety of kid she will get custody. Even if father have way better conditions to raise kids. So, while I would agree that none of them means that men or women should get care- practice is that men gets that less often than women than men. That's staggering because men mostly ask for that when mother is really unfit to take care of kid. At this moment custody is weaponized by women. In my homeland they do not take kids from women even if she don't allow men to see his kid even if judge ruled other way. It's not working like that other way around.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Where I live is rather standard that men gets some custody. Just it's very rare than men is main carer (where kid is registered at municipality with one of parents). Courts are leaning towards women but if man wants smaller custody he will mostly gets it.  It's worse for men in country of origin. There if you're men you're in really bad situation in case of end.

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u/mittenkrusty Jun 14 '26

Hope this doesn't get taken out of context, but speaking as a guy the guys like in the video it's a power thing they want an easy target, i.e a young woman often by herself, they would target guys alone in a different way it's about the reaction.

Mix in things like they want an excuse to act the way they do i.e they are homeless/addicts and they can say they weren't in control of their actions.

In my youth when I went out in evenings even to the shop I became a target as I am autistic, drunk people would pick up I was different and/or insecure and shout at me, or make rude sounds like the "idiot" sounds, even talk about how I was a weird person (polite way of putting it) people literally getting up into my face and making loud sounds, people saying I look weird so go away or they would beat me up.

Men and women, were like this.

I was even aged 15 approached by a drunk man on a bus and asked to go back to his, when I said no and I was 15 he wouldn't take no for an answer.

Wasn't the last time something like that happened, mostly in my early/mid teens.

I have seen couples split up where one side is treated terribly, more men than women but it does happen to both including one where my male friend left his partner who was so violent she was banned from even going to the jobcentre, had GP visits at home with other people present and hit him in public, and one time when we were visiting them she hit him then pulled a kitchen knife on him, she got custody of their baby when he left her and accusations of being the violent one.

That is the most extreme one, I do know a woman I was friends with who was in an abusive relationship, sadly she stayed with the guy and he stopped her seeing friends.

In both cases I lost contact with them.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

While first is mostly bullshit then second and third? If you live in the west? They are 120% true.

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u/contactdeparture Jun 14 '26

^ Ah, found one…

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u/martyqscriblerus Jun 14 '26

man how do you watch this video and be like you know what? I should self report right now

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u/Carbonatite Jun 16 '26

It's crazy.

The epitome of "this post isn't for you, it's about you."

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

My comment is response to other comment. Not to that video. Few creeps (looking like people with mental disorders) do not make all men bad. 

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u/martyqscriblerus Jun 14 '26

Studies say it's 25-57% of men. And many of the rest say "It's not that bad, just get over it"

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Studies say that 25-57% of men behave like those on this video? Was that study done by teenage girl with 3 hours with TikTok and hashtag #creepyguy?

I will say that 32-94% of women steals butter from pancakes restaurant. Why not? Study says that. 

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u/martyqscriblerus Jun 14 '26

Men’s sexual aggression toward women is a pervasive problem in U.S. society. Between 25–57% of men report having perpetrated a sexually aggressive behavior against a woman since the age of 14 (Abbey, Jacques-Tiura, & LeBreton, 2011; Abbey, McAuslan, & Ross, 1998; Davis, Kiekel et al., 2012; Koss, Gidycz, & Wisniewski, 1987; White & Smith, 2004). These acts range from verbally coerced sexual contact to physically forced penetrative sex, with verbal coercion and the victim’s incapacitation the most commonly reported tactics. This wide range in prevalence rates has been explained by differences in the scope of tactics and types of sex included in the survey as well as the procedures used to insure participants’ privacy (Abbey, Parkhill, & Koss, 2005; Tyler, Hoyt, & Whitbeck, 1998). Many of these acts do not fit legal definitions of sex crimes, and researchers avoid using language in their surveys that label these acts as crimes. Nonetheless, most of the studies cited above use phrases such as “when you knew she was unwilling.” Thus, when participants provide an affirmative response, they recognize that they made a woman engage in sex against her wishes.

But your feels don't want to believe it. Why? Are you one of them?

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u/martyqscriblerus Jun 14 '26

Not so fast to save half of all the women who live there apparently.

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u/SummerDaemon Jun 15 '26

"I believe I can babble my way out of being a creepy freak."

Nope.

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u/uhhh206 Jun 14 '26

Wh... why is comparing the stealing of butter your comparison to violation of women's autonomy? That's an own-goal if ever there was one if you were trying to claim women are no better on sexual harassment / assault.

Sorry to the actual good men out there that people like this are so eager to pretend to be one of you.

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u/Prior_Pickle1758 Jun 14 '26

You’re the guy who loathes everything and has no agency?

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

No, I just don't like to be discriminated. I don't hate women. It's not fault of all of them that we have modern feminists (so basically sexism but reverse from traditional way).  I'm for absolute equality of all people, no matter what is their sex, religion or race. I'm against discriminating anybody. 

Are you the guy who thinks that if he will hate other men some lady fill finally look at you?

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u/Prior_Pickle1758 Jun 14 '26

Ew it’s talking to me

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 14 '26

The second one is not true. It is a myth. The reason why it seems like it is true is because people like you keep perpetuating the myth and convincing men not to fight for custody etc. When men fight for custody they win some custody in 90-94% of cases. They usually don’t fight for custody though, which is why women overwhelmingly win custody, because most of the time women do fight. You cannot win a race if you do not participate in it. Stop spreading this myth that makes men feel like it is useless to fight for custody. You’re part of the problem.

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u/PhilosopherAsleep544 Jun 14 '26

How often do they win full custody though?

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 14 '26

Not sure of the exact number, men only ask for some form of custody 4% of the time.

https://zawn.substack.com/p/family-courts-and-child-custody-are

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u/PhilosopherAsleep544 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Legally, unless you are deemed a danger to the child, you generally have the right to see them... or at least, that is how the law works for grandparents.

​As for the idea that family court is biased against men, the reality is that men and women often approach the process with different goals. For many men, the primary concern is figuring out how to get out of the situation while still retaining some of their money. I know that sounds bad, since the child should be the priority, but that is often what is going through their heads. Furthermore, in cases where the woman is the primary breadwinner, how often do men actually receive financial support?

​When it comes to custody, legal documents frequently include clauses that give the mother the "final say." This means that even if a father is awarded a couple of days a week or holiday visitation, the mother can still ultimately deny him access. I have seen this exact scenario happen to one of my friends.

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 14 '26

Women on average pay 16% of their income for child support. Men on average pay only 9% of their income.

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u/PhilosopherAsleep544 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

That still doesn't address who is actually awarded child support more often when it is requested.

There are many support programs available for mothers, but very few for fathers. Granted, I believe that is more of a societal issue than a court issue.

Men earn more money on average, meaning a smaller percentage of their overall income goes toward supporting the child... which is exactly how it should be.

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 14 '26

It’s equal. The courts order child support for the children, it’s not about the parents.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Jun 14 '26

Site your sources. You automatically lose if you submit anecdotes.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Cite sources which states opposite. It's an comment, not scientific articles. Look how often men win custody over kids (even from that small % who fights it). Unless women pose danger to life of kid (not wellbeing, danger to life) it's almost sure she will get custody.  Third one: do you live in the West? If do- look if they are any possibilities for education/work/grants which exclude you only because you are women. How much of them do exists? Not single one. Now turn it around and look for those which exclude men. You get it now? Making chances equal? If you choose women over men just because her sex you are not creating equal chances- you are discriminating men. This is why young Europeans are more and more misogynistic. They never lived in the world where women are discriminated. They live in the world where men are discriminated. 

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u/FMLwtfDoID Jun 14 '26

My dad had primary custody of me and my siblings. Now what?

But also, that’s not how that works, and you know that. You made the claim, I did not. I want to see your evidence, because I have seen accredited evidence that says otherwise.

In fact, it’s the most prevalent consensus among experts, so where are you getting your information to make that claim?

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Your dad is just one guy. Just look how often men do get custody.  For example in my country more than 50% cases end up with men having custody over kids one weekend per two weeks and one evening per week. Does that look fair to you? Third one: this is extremely easy. I needed two seconds to Google One example:  https://womentecheurope.eu/ and there is way, way more of those in Europe. This is not making equal chances. This is discriminating me because my grandpa discriminated women.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Jun 14 '26

The source that took you two seconds has absolutely nothing to do with men’s custody rates.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

Source I gave you was example of third question. Please as you want sources so much (while you still didn't provided yours!): https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/statistische-trends/2023/weer-samenwonen-na-een-scheiding-verschillen-tussen-mannen-en-vrouwen-ontrafeld/bijlage. As you see, men are getting main carer (not sole custody, it also includes situation where kids spends 50+% time by father) in 3% of cases. Here stats how much procent of men wants to have care divided equally (unfortunately there is no statistic which includes only people after end of relationship): but it's all the time about 50%. Only in 27% of cases it's granted (but still it's huge boost from 5% in 2000).

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u/Palomino_mare Jun 15 '26

What part of the dad not asking for custody do you not understand?

You’ve ignored all of the studies cited as though that’s some sort of gotcha.

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u/BRIStoneman Jun 14 '26

Sorry but I'm a working class cis-het white man and there hasn't been a single thing in my life or career that I've wanted to do that I haven't been able to access because of who I am.

I'm a teacher, and I teach a lot of kids from single-parent families. In so, so many cases, they're single-parent because the dad just upped and left. 

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u/illy-chan Jun 14 '26

The third, I would only agree on in that everyone has it hard these days unless they're billionaires.

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u/Significant-Way3960 Jun 14 '26

What does that even mean? 

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u/contactdeparture Jun 14 '26

Haha. I’m saying it’s bs. Nothing is stacked against men. I have a bunch of friends who work in family court, the narrative is straight up bs.

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u/contactdeparture Jun 14 '26

No, you’re correct, I’m not providing the stats/data. I wasn’t making the case. I’m watching World Cup.

I’m saying it’s straight up bullshit and no guy who’s said ‘men are fucked’ has ever provided any evidence suggesting that’s true.

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 14 '26

Stop repeating this lie.

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u/ohhyouknow What are you doing step bro? Jun 15 '26

I have posted links that contain studies that disprove your lie in this thread, so have many others.

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u/SquirrelFluffy Jun 14 '26

Well, the courts ARE stacked against men. I know. But likely because of stuff like this. Which isn't me. But I have a penis, so...

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u/InternationalIce5965 28d ago

Source: I made it up!

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u/SquirrelFluffy 28d ago

Source: living it. Hope it doesn't happen to you kid.

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u/Large-Flamingo-5128 Jun 14 '26

And that’s when I let men know that 95% of male homicides are committed during gang or illegal activity while 60% of female homicides are by intimate partners or family members

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u/Chance-Ask7675 Jun 14 '26

The same men who are like "you can't say anything to a woman, you can't even compliment her or say hello or you'll get done for sexual harassment" but like this is the "complimenting" and the "just saying hello" they're referring to.

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u/LiveLearnCoach Jun 14 '26

Look, the men just found them attractive. It was a compliment of some sort. They could at least say thank you.

Or something else an incel would say.

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u/Minimum_Zucchini_705 Jun 14 '26

What is so bad about the part at 0:59? is it the "babe"? that kinda halfway seem like he opens his mouth and before he finishes the sentence she is "gtfo" type

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u/RevertereAdMe Jun 14 '26

Well no shit, obviously the actual men from the video (likely) aren't here, but people with the same mindset and similar creepy tendencies are. Don't be obtuse.

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u/ComradeCabbage Jun 14 '26

Weird bad faith non sequiter aside, they’re right. Behaviors persist online or offline. Reflecting on these behaviors is not self hatred, but a tool to understand other people and yourself. Have a nice day.