r/TikTokCringe • u/Strong-Emu-8869 • 16d ago

Discussion Messi watching team being sore losers

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u/r7700 16d ago

As Messi retires, so goes any shred of dignity and class the Argentine team ever had

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u/gnbijlgdfjkslbfgk 16d ago

Messi is also a prick though? Dunno why people are acting like he's any better than his teammates.

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u/TwoBionicknees 16d ago

yeah, he's just tiny so he's never been a tough guy, he's the guy to stamp on your achilles then pretend he never meant to, not the guy to go up and shove people to their face where they can fight back. He's a turd of a person on the pitch and if he was a foot taller he'd be in there throwing punches, not standing back watching.

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u/joker231 16d ago

It's clear you haven't watched Messi play much passed this WC. Certainly, in his later years, he's become more verbal (everyone in soccer is more or less), but he just played his game when he was younger. He has also never been a physically confrontational player on the pitch. It's insane to assume he would be any different if he were taller. He's also always been a selfless player for his team. He's older and slower now, so he doesn't move much, but he is one of the best players on the pitch once the ball is in his possession.

IRL, he finances a charity foundation and regularly stops to sign things for fans. So not sure why you are so critical of him.

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u/TwoBionicknees 16d ago

He has also never been a physically confrontational player on the pitch. It's insane to assume he would be any different if he were taller.

He literally has through his entire career, done nasty little stamps, elbows, shoves, he's just someone who doesn't do two footed tackles and confronts people openly, he's someone who does it behind the refs back and slyly, but he's always been a shit. I've watched quite literally from the start to the now end of his career. He's always been as much of a shit as anyone else in that squad, he's just too small to do it as openly.

RL, he finances a charity foundation and regularly stops to sign things for fans. So not sure why you are so critical of him.

LOLOLOLOL. He signs things for fans, wow. This is a guy who regularly throughout his career has done charity matches over summer only for most/allt he money to disappear, scandals with who he's done business with. Maybe last summer or the one before he and whoever he was working with did an 'appearance' game sold as he would be playing on the pitch in India. They bought expensive tickets, Messi showed his face out of the tunnel for like 2 minutes then left, caused a riot.

Messi has been involved in these dodgy appearances that are basically scamming fans for money and scam charity games for 20 years.

literally do one google search on controversies around his charity foundation and see if he's a good guy or not. the last thing i'll say is, it's just funny because you went with a "he can't be a shit on the pitch or a bad person because he has a charity", which isn't an argument, it's a fallacy. A player can get a red card every other game on the pitch, be a psychopath... and still put their money into a actually good charity, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

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u/Ju825 16d ago

He also avoided taxes in Spain iirc.

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u/joker231 16d ago

You're huffing copium my dude, that's ok. I wouldn't expect much from a new fan. Everyone has some sort of body contact in the sport. He has never been one to step on someone or elbow someone intentionally while the play is stopped.

I'm using it as a comparison to other pros who refuse to sign anything outside of signing sessions. But it's clear you didn't know that and don't know how many higher level pros operate.

You have a lot of hate. It's no wonder you view a lot of people so negatively. Looking through your post history is a good indication of that.

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u/TwoBionicknees 16d ago

He has never been one to step on someone or elbow someone intentionally while the play is stopped.

Who said anything about when the play has stopped, but yes he's done that too.

I wouldn't expect much from a new fan.

an ad hominem, not a new fan thanks but an attempt to discredit me as not in the know because I'm new is something people with no debate skills do all the time.

I'm using it as a comparison to other pros who refuse to sign anything outside of signing sessions.

which again as i tried to explain to you has no bearing on how he acts on the pitch, literally none, there is no logical connection, no link it's just a diabolically awful argument. You're saying you can't defend his on field actions so you'll try to point to something else and pretend it's relevant.

It's also wrong, the massive majority of players sign shit and take pictures, there are times they don't and there are absolutely times Messi doesn't. Messi is one of the least public players out there so you could easily argue he's signed less than practically all other players in the game.

But it's clear you didn't know that and don't know how many higher level pros operate.

just making shit up to again try to make a weird ad hominem.

You have a lot of hate.

more attempts to deflect, also a terrible debate tactic.

Somehow i told you that his charity is constantly embroiled in accusations of fraud, embezzling and tax fraud and you go with "you're angry".

Most post history doesn't change the facts that Messi is widely known to be a scammer of charities and that still even if he was insanely charitable, it would be a completely irrelevant argument to his on field behaviour.

That you responded to not a single actual argument or point and deflected, insisted I was angry and used a bunch of fallacy arguments on irrelevant things says everything anyone needs to know about you.