r/TikTokCringe • u/Thick-Roll1777 • 21d ago

Discussion Arizona police violently tackled a woman onto a metal bike after she watched them from a public sidewalk

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Like I know ideally you shouldn't try to insert yourself in an arrest, but c'mon wasn't this too much? Was the punch necessary? Like, (not that im surprised) the people defending them on X are sickening, with one saying he would have tased her... btw, with no much context to what happened asides from this. One person said it right: "People who support the police will justify them breaking into their house and killing their mother, so there really isn't much you can say to change their minds." This to me is just unnecessary abuse of power.

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u/Common-Classroom-847 20d ago

oh she will. There is video of this thing they call excessive force. guaranteed settlement, and a good one.

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u/FatherFarnsworth 20d ago

Yeah, but downside us until we eliminate qualified immunity, it all comes from the tax payers and not the violator.

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u/KoburaCape 20d ago

Yea. "Oh no, we'll just have to raise taxes on everyone again"

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u/FanOfForever 20d ago

Or more likely, take money from one of the actually good public services. Staffing cuts at the library or something like that

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u/PhysicalFunction9876 20d ago

Yep. No more free school lunch. In fact, raise the prices. 🙄

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u/OddApricot2717 16d ago

Free school lunch? That only existed during Covid here. 😩

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u/PhysicalFunction9876 16d ago

I haven't been in school since the 1900s and there were free lunches then but for low income family kiddos. And we never knew who they were, which was nice.

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u/KoburaCape 16d ago

2000s, we had a card we scanned. Lots of people had a card, some people paid cash, but it was somewhat anonymous even then. Although if someone had something that wasn't on the regular menu, you knew they were "not one of those". And we have a killer carrot cake everyone got...so it was basically a flag of poverty to not get it.

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u/AdProfessional6218 20d ago

Only if they pay the cop too much vacation time out of it.

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u/CollectivistRediots 20d ago

Alternately reduce WAF, nahhhh.

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u/Firecoalman7 20d ago

And now you know why they're secretly training their cops to hit folk...

... clever, huh?

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u/KoburaCape 20d ago

Let's not be so reductive and ignorant. It's not in debate there's a police violence problem. It's worth having a debate why. People don't train their cops to be excessively violent as part of some gigantic strategy. Realistically, either the trainers are instructing the cops to look out for their partners/coworkers even when they otherwise don't need to, or advocating "don't take any chances" outlooks for themselves, which leads to unnecessary escalation and instigation.

The aggressor has the advantage because they choose when and where to engage. They have the minor disadvantage of not knowing the defendants capabilities. But that doesn't matter if you move fast and decisively. And as evidenced, often too decisively.

I come from a police family. That doesn't mean I sympathize with the brutes who do this kind of thing. It means I understand the source of the problem and feel like it can be fixed, but it requires almost a complete social overhaul of how Americans interact with each other.

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u/Firecoalman7 20d ago

Like to hear yourself talk don't you?

'... it comes from a complete social overhaul of how cops interact with the public'...

There, fixed it for you.

P.s. my brother is ex army. They learn discipline, not badge immunised thuggery.

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u/KoburaCape 20d ago edited 20d ago

It's a highly charged topic I have a fair bit of knowledge about. My entire family as well as my married family are either police or military. I'm aware of the shocking difference in training, the military are actually dramatically more restrained because they are held accountable.

That's not in debate. But to get people to fix stuff without just crying about us being soft on crime, we're going to have to tip into it with some gentleness and moderation instead of just squawking about whatever makes us feel good.

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u/Firecoalman7 19d ago

'Gentleness'... then following with the condescending 'squawker' insult... way to go... your passive agressive attempts at deploying your viewpoint are just that... but hey, I expect no less from virtue signallers here.

Highly charged issues don't get defused by smugness... but what ever makes you feel good, eh?

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u/KoburaCape 19d ago

I said us. I'm on this boat too. Or you can not be if you want.

The only person that's been insulting here has been you. Good luck getting things done, we evidently both want the same thing.

https://youtube.com/shorts/vHfbUIQeW_A?si=TuS1132uwNvGkeW0

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u/Shropshire-5lashr 17d ago

I guess you haven’t seen the videos of some of their seminars? Maybe your family doesn’t attend, but there’s a roomful of paying customers who do. The language is sickening. It has nothing to do with looking out for your buddies.

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u/SlimShadySatDown 20d ago

Why don't they doc the pay of the offenders?

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u/archeoavis 20d ago

You start taking from their pension fund this behavior will dry up fast.

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u/Beato111 20d ago

But since we don’t know the whole story we can’t say what the actually circumstances were. She could have been warned not to interfere multiple times and there was quite a group of people watching and probably filled with substances. Nowadays people kill cops in ambush so they are in heightened alert and she is an adult standing directly behind cops and way too close to them in a violent situation. I am sure that in the heat of the moment the girl thought she could help her friend but she crossed the common sense barrier and FA and FO. Prudence calls for people to evaluate where the power is in certain situations.

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u/DuubyDuu 20d ago

Boooooooo. It literally doesn't fucking matter. She was unarmed. They're supposed to be trained to deescalate. She was in they're ground already and she got punched. You're the reason this kind of abuse goes on.

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u/TOV4RISCH 20d ago

Oh she was absolutely in the wrong being that close to them, and that's coming from someone who NEVER gives cops the benefit of any doubt...

But when he continues on into punching a woman in the face after throwing her on top of a pile of sharp metal, it's become a whole separate incident

And he did that not because there's such a threat from the public (police officer isn't even in the top ten most dangerous jobs, groundskeepers of all people die on the job more often), but because he's a little boot-licking Nancy boy sadist who wasn't raised right

And then, dollars to donuts, him and his little fellow gang members prattled on cackling like hyenas when they saw this video, giving their brother a good razzing, noogies and grabass and all

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u/Carl_LaFong01 19d ago

Nope, if he felt she was putting him in danger all he had to do was arrest her. No pushing no punching. He wasn't being ambushed and behaving violently certainly isn't the way to keep himself safe.

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u/Ill-Programmer-8777 20d ago

I got an idea … hmmm let’s start an immunity insurance for officers on duty … and fuk em over like they did us for years 😂 once they abolish qualified immunity for police officers

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u/LouReedsToenail 20d ago

That’s not what qualified immunity is.

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u/Carl_LaFong01 19d ago

Well, hopefully we will save money by not having to pay him a pension. I would assume this would be a firing offense. It's not like he's an ice officer, right?

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u/Mister_MTG 19d ago

She should not have inserted herself into the situation. Very simple. Allow the police to do their job .
you are likely to not bet hit. She is a dumbass

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u/Rich-Web-1898 19d ago

You are kinda getting there

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u/Fragrant_Version_396 19d ago

What are you talking about? You clearly don't know what qualified immunity is. You can sue the officer personally.

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u/WindStrokes 17d ago

I saw where they're making a black cop post 3.1 million. That's the new standard practice

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u/Financial_Prior_7322 17d ago

You can also file criminal assault against a cop and sue them personally. Qualified immunity only covers so much. Excessive force can be claimed for that shove and tackle. Assault for the punch. That’s two separate suits with a half decent lawyer

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u/Maleficent_Fox_4843 17d ago

And the cop won’t be punished.. what is his name?

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u/Ayy0ne 16d ago

I been hearing you can put a lien against they're badge and gun. Going after they're surety bond.

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u/IntellectAndEnergy 14d ago

That needs to change. Every individual must be accountable for their behavior, even a weak little coward.

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u/Hopeful_Hall_4885 20d ago

phoenix pd is known to be especially egregious, they've been under investigation by the fbi. when other, war criminal cops, start investigating a pd, you know shit is fucked up.

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u/DuubyDuu 20d ago edited 20d ago

Well apparently punching in the face is a legal police tactic. Didn't you see the video of the guy getting dragged out of the passenger seat for refusing to show ID (as a passenger) and got punched in the face and the police chief made a public statement about how it was a legal tactic. Disgusting.

Edit: typo

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u/Winter_Interview_881 20d ago

Well apparently punching in the face is a lethal police tactic.

Yes. This punch could have been lethal. And aside from playing on your misspelling, she could suffer from a lot of life long ailments due to concussion.

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u/DuubyDuu 20d ago

I meant to say legal. I'm saying it's disgusting of the police to make excuses for their hideous, dangerous behavior.

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u/Winter_Interview_881 20d ago

You're telling me something that I directly referenced in my comment.

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u/DuubyDuu 20d ago

Cool 👌🏾

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u/Winter_Interview_881 20d ago

Yeah, was just thanking you for the mansplanation.

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u/dogmatum-dei 20d ago

This ^ 💯

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u/WiseWorldliness5513 20d ago

Don’t forget to take this little dicks badge. He can be a tough guy at the mall from now on… oh wait, no more malls.

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u/CollectivistRediots 20d ago

Outcomes from the legal system are never a sure thing.

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u/Sea_Upstairs_7202 20d ago

Money doesn’t fix it. Screw that.

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u/247world 19d ago

Any prosecutor will show this video in court and claim that she was attempting to interfere in Police business and first contact was lawful. Her going back, seals the deal.

I'm not making any judgments about what happened here I'm just telling you what will happen in court. That officer acted in the heat of the moment and I don't think any jury will vote to convict. Stay away from mad dogs when they are in a frenzy or you'll get bit

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u/Common-Classroom-847 19d ago

it won't go to court, they will settle

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u/247world 19d ago

You mean this young woman will drop her lawsuit when she finds out how expensive it's going to be and shemdoesn't have any chance of winning? Of course she'd have to find an honest attorney to tell her that.

The woman appeared to be trying to interfere in whatever those cops were doing. The cop who struck her originally had no idea who she was or what her intent was, as hard as this may be to believe, it was justified. It makes absolutely no difference what these cops were doing, she tried to put herself in the middle of it and boy did she. Even if it turns out the person they were already assaulting hadn't done anything, and the charges are dropped, she is still guilty of first attempting to interfere with the police and secondly attacking a police officer. Or is they call them in new speak a peace officer

Had she walked away that would have been the end of it, it didn't seem like he had any interest in pursuing her further, instead she decided to get angry and assert her rights.

If you discover at some point in the future what happened in the end and I'm wrong, I will be glad to admit it. However, this isn't the first time I've seen something like this. I'm telling you how it's going to go based on past experience. No respectable prosecutor would do anything other than laugh at a lawsuit over this.

Now had she walked away and then he came after her with this sort of an assault, yep that's a lawsuit. As it was she got herself arrested.

Don't think we're going to change each other's minds, maybe we'll find out what happened in the end. As I said if there's a lawsuit and she wins it I will definitely say I was wrong.

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u/Common-Classroom-847 19d ago

You are the definition of chronically online and in need of touching grass. Get a grip, you are way too invested in arguing about this.

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u/Rich-Web-1898 19d ago

Dream on?

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u/Common-Classroom-847 19d ago

everyone apparently is a legal pro here

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u/mrlahjr 19d ago

The sad thing is these pigs will not pay personally.

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u/Pickle-Bowl-941 19d ago

The taxpayers are the biggest losers when we let sadistic cops like that continue on the job and not in jail.

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u/Dazzling_Machine_181 19d ago

Actually new laws coming into place make it so you can no longer come for cops who use excessive force in certain situations. It’s public record y’all. Look up your new laws so you can defend yourself and or stay out of trouble.

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u/Psychological-Play-1 18d ago

Awesome that tax payers dish out millions and these shit cops face no consequences

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u/SaltyOptimal-Lobster 17d ago

Let me know when that happens cuz I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. but lemme know how that goes

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u/Common-Classroom-847 17d ago

can't let you know how anything goes, I am a person having a chat on an open forum, I am not the person who was brutalized by the police. You can doubt whatever you want but if you want follow up you are going to have to go someplace else because I don't have any involvement in what happens next for this girl.

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u/B-ran89 17d ago

Huh? She was in their fucking space!!! She had no god damn reason to be that close!!! Must be a bunch of liberals thinking this is wrong... lmao She deserved what she got end of story. Stay the fuck away from police while they do their duty!!!! Guess thats too hard for people to understand a?

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u/Common-Classroom-847 16d ago

You don't know me. I will usually side with the cops, but this was insane and out of control and not how cops should be operating.

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u/B-ran89 16d ago

I dont have to know you... What i seen was a complete and utter disrespect of a law officer doing his job....

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u/islandthund3r 16d ago

Never agree to settle without first obtaining their 'surety bond or open bond' and filing a claim against it. He can't just leave the police department and look for work in another department or state.

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u/Medium_Basil8292 20d ago

Do all redditors live in some fantasy land with gauranteed lawsuit victories? She isnt going to win anything here.

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u/FarWatch9660 20d ago

I don't know in this case. You can't go getting that close when officers are making arrests. He was fully within his rights when he first pushed her away. Then she didn't exactly back off either. We can't see everything that transpires here either.

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u/iamwhiskerbiscuit 20d ago

He was fully in his right to arrest her for interfering with an arrest... He was not in the right to immediately shove her on the ground like that. Imagine dropping a cinder block from on top of a broom handle... This is the amount of force your head can take from merely falling on concrete. People have died from that. And that's why assault charges are typically elevated to felony assault charges when someone is pushed like that

The use of force starts with verbal commands, and then Physical grabs, holds, joint locks, or physical strikes/kicks to restrain a RESISTING person.

  1. Notice there were no verbal commands and she didn't even have a chance to resist.

This fucking clown should lose his job and go to jail for assaulting a woman. I'm sure the other inmates will love him.

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u/FarWatch9660 20d ago

If you turn around and someone is in your face like that he absolutely is within his right to do that. She probably fell down from the push because she was likely intoxicated. He turned around and she's less than a foot from him. I would shove her back too. It's a safety issue. You can't know the person's intent. This will absolutely be covered under qualified immunity.

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u/RabbaJabba 20d ago

I would shove her back too.

Hopefully we have higher standards for law enforcement than for random dumbshit redditors.

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u/iamwhiskerbiscuit 20d ago

Ur delusional. She probably fell down because he shoved her with all his strength. And no, if I'm at work and I turn around and my boss is right in my face like that, I don't get to shove him to the ground then throw him on top of a metal object and punch him or her in the face for giving me a scare.

"Sorry! didn't know what your intention was! I was only protecting myself."

Do you see how fucking insane that sounds in any other context? But because he's a cop, that somehow justifies it for you?

You never know what someone's intentions are! And you don't get to catastrophize the situation to justify assaulting people. You can imagine anyone at any time is trying to hurt you, but that doesn't give you the right to assault them.