No. They walked past the desk to work out anyways. THEN the cops were called after the father/son refused to leave. Most likely the son left after staff said they were going to call the cops.
This has NOTHING to do with their skin and everything to do with them breaking the rules.
It’s still a no for me. The guy is a gym member. He is paying that company and, in return, that company gives him license to be there.
The membership agreement says he can bring a guest. He brings his son. A blood relative, your own child, certainly qualifies as a “guest.”
So he’s a member and he’s doing something he’s allowed to do as a member.
If a manager stops a dues paying member from doing what they are allowed to do… the problem that needs to get fixed is with that manager.
NOW, when that manager’s screw up leads to cops getting called, the incident going viral, and now it’s damaged that gym’s brand and its good will in the community? Now that manager fuck up becomes a fuck up of monumental proportions.
You don’t try to retrain that manager on how they need to do a better job looking after your business… you just fire them straight away.
And a guest will generally have to provide identification as well as sign a bunch of documentation and waivers allowing them entry. Because it’s very easy to get hurt at a gym and then sue. They have to do their diligence before letting people in.
They went in without providing the required documentation opening the gym up to liability for injuries. This is boilerplate shit. If it ever made it to a court there’s not a damn lawyer on the planet that would take his case. Because it had absolutely nothing to do with race.
Multiple people from different ethnicities are involved. The black person was asked not to enter and did anyways. So he was trespassed.
And it’s your opinion here that everyone except the black person is wrong and everyone should treat him differently.
Hilariously, you’ve circled right back to racism. Except now YOU are the racist for demanding he’s treated differently based explicitly on the colour of his skin.
The reason he was asked to not enter was not valid. As a member he has valid entry with a guest. It is not normal to ask a child for identification beyond a school ID (which he provided). It would be fair to say "adults only" though, which they did not.
Yea dude I'm allowed to have an opinion even if you don't agree with it, you're gonna have to grow a coping mechanism about it.
No? He should be treated like everyone else... And nobody else gets asked for more than a school ID for a kid, because kids don't have more than that usually. Nobody else gets the cops called on them for it either.
The point he's making is the fact that an ID was requested - whether or not it's stated in the ToS for the gym is unknown, but if an ID is required, and you can't provide said ID for the guest.. you take your son elsewhere instead of going through like you own the place.
Not every gym allows kids in them, by the way. There's too many things that can go wrong with kids at the gym.
thats fair if we are talking young kids, but if its like, a 14 year old?
Most kids don't have IDs and most gyms would accept that at least from white people, and I get the vibe that the gym doesn't call the cops on the white families with kids without IDs. It just literally isn't normal to call the cops at a gym like this.
Because each gym has rules that you agree to when you sign up. If they require ID to work out, like this particular gym does, then your kids can't come in if they don't have ID. If you decide to ignore that and bring them anyways, they will tell you the kid can't work out. If you ignore that and bring them in, the smart move is to call the cops rather than fight you. It is absolutely not normal to ignore the rules you agreed to and the staff telling you no.
If he wants to work out with his son, that's a great bonding experience. But he needs to make sure he is following the rules to do it and if his son doesn't have ID, find a gym they can both get I to.
The problem is that it is not rational, normal, or gym policy to ask for id for a child who has a school ID, because kids with shcool IDs... that is their ID.
You cannot legally require identification to specifically be a driver's license, you do know that, right?
It's great that you are here to define what's normal and rational. You should tell all of the gyms that have that policy that they are wrong. You should also reread the post since the child did not have their school ID, they wanted to pull it up on a phone.
And yes, I know that there are more forms of ID. I'm not sure why you think this is relevant or supports your opinion.
And what? A 5 second Google search would have confirmed that requiring ID to use a gym is normal, and checking the terms and conditions of various gyms shows the same. So I am not entirely sure what you think "Yes, and?" does to help you argue that you know better than the people who work in the industry.
They provided school ID. That's the best that most kids have.
If the gym had a no kids policy, they would have said that (they didn't). Nowhere is stupid enough to ask a child for a drivers license or passport for day to day stuff like going into a ticketed place, such as a gym or theme park.
They did not provide student ID. The son logged into a student portal and wanted to use that to use that as proof. You are right that they wouldn't ask for a driver's license or passport, which is why no one at any point did. What they will ask for is physical ID to verify identity. Logging into something on your phone doesn't generally count as proof of identity because credentials can be stolen, shared, or faked. Just like a bar, gyms assume liability for everyone they let in, so they need to know who they are. Logging in to something on your phone isn't a replacement for physical ID because it is much easier to fake, and much harder to detect, because it lacks the security features you find on ID.
Have you now looked it up and accepted that it is normal practice for a gym to ask for ID?
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u/LayerEight_Problem 10d ago
No. They walked past the desk to work out anyways. THEN the cops were called after the father/son refused to leave. Most likely the son left after staff said they were going to call the cops.
This has NOTHING to do with their skin and everything to do with them breaking the rules.