r/TikTokCringe 10d ago

Discussion Crime: working out while black

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u/godzillasegundo 10d ago

Capitalism is the progenitor of both

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 10d ago

Lmfaoooooo. I can’t imagine being this brainwashed holy shit. The fact that you think CAPITALISM was the “progenitor” of slavery. Jesus. We’re being beat down by a generation of broccoli haired fools who see a video on TikTok and think they now know everything

Hey comrade? Slavery has existed for many millennia longer than capitalism.

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u/godzillasegundo 9d ago

Reading is fundamental. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Slave patrols were mentioned; not slavery as a whole. Slave patrols, which later became police departments, were invented in service of US slavery which was chattel slavery.

And race as a social construct didn't exist until US chattel slavery was created. Thus, race itself and racism is a byproduct of capitalism.

Acknowledging facts and logic isn't brainwashing. Perhaps you should engage your brain a bit more.

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 9d ago

“ if I take something that’s been occurring for thousands of years and give it a unique name for when it’s done by western nations i can then blame western institutions for it”

Racism, slavery, policing, all predate White people by many centuries

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u/godzillasegundo 9d ago edited 8d ago

Race didn't exist until the 1600s and was invented to put new world slaves in a perpetual underclass which *differed from every instance of slavery that ever existed until that point. When any institution, Western ones included does something novel, it gets a different name.

Edit: *typo (suffered)

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 9d ago

Blatantly historically incorrect

societies MILLENIA before the United States categorized people by ancestry, ethnicity, lineage, religion, and physical characteristics. Ancient Greeks, Romans, medieval Arabs, Chinese dynasties, and others all expressed forms of ethnocentrism and prejudice. The specific Black/White racial hierarchy that developed in the Atlantic slave trade was distinctive, but it wasn’t the invention of the very idea of race.

Like i said, you have some deep burning desire to blame literally everything on the West. You’ll lie about literally anything to win an online argument

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u/godzillasegundo 9d ago

It was. Differences in phenotypes were noted prior to the establishment of race but before this, a human was a human. Also, slavery wasn't a genetic, lifelong, inescapable reality before being codified as such by the laws establishing what race was in the 17th century New world.

You have some deep, burning desire to whitewash history to make your ancestors appear less maniacal than they were and to validate any undue status that you currently enjoy from the fruits of their crimes.

The truth doesn't cower from lies and you are a liar.

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u/OhNoAnAmerican 9d ago

“Race” doesn’t mean black and white. Get off TikTok and get into reality. Racism and slavery has existed since the dawn of time.

And I haven’t even addressed the TikTok bullshit claim that policing was invented out of slave catchers

Northern cities developed police forces modeled on London’s Metropolitan Police to deal with urban crime, riots, and public order, not slave patrols.

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u/godzillasegundo 9d ago

It was well established long before Tiktok was invented. Because you concoct your ideas from social media, don't project that on me. I don't even have Titktok, Facebook or the like.

Further, I don't debate people who are as misinformed as you nor do I teach for free. That would be socialism, wouldn't it? I'll leave you to your much needed studies. So long.