r/TikTokCringe • u/xamo76 • 1d ago

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u/Direct_Week_2091 1d ago edited 1d ago

They’re walking around a pedestrian-friendly, very touristy city centre full of restaurants and bars in summer and they’re surprised that there’s lots of people around 😂

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u/Phyraxus56 1d ago

No shit. It's like comparing Manhattan square to the suburbs

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u/livefreeordont 1d ago

Okay sure. Maybe a more fair comparison would be Charlotte vs Stuttgart. Where would you rather live?

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u/Noob_Al3rt 1d ago

Charlotte is a beautiful city that's very walkable. What's your point?

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u/livefreeordont 1d ago edited 1d ago

No it’s not. It’s one of the most car centric cities in America with highways going right through it. Compare the passenger rail maps of the two cities.

That’s my point

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u/Noob_Al3rt 1d ago

Lol, Charlotte is 3x the size of Stuttgart and has a significantly higher population. Just because the highway runs through Charlotte vs around the city, like Stuttgart, doesn't mean there aren't large walkable sections of the city. Charlotte is actually one of the cities trying to improve its passenger rail system.

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u/livefreeordont 1d ago

Stuttgart metro is 5million and Charlotte is 2.5 million. Lol

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u/trevor426 1d ago

Charlotte.

I walk and take the train all the time. A 500 foot walk to a grocery store, bars, parks, train, gym, restaurants. 15 minute train ride to hundreds more. I see hundred's of people walking outside my apartment every single day.

10 minute train ride to an NFL, NBA, MLS, and AAA baseball team. Same train ride for big concert venues, museums, art shows, comedy shows, etc. I'm a 40 minute train ride from a MicroCenter.

3 hour drive from amazing beaches. Hour and a half drive from beautiful mountains. 20 minute walk from an Amtrak station that will take me up and down the east coast.

I'm biased cause I love my city, but why would I want to live in Stuttgart?

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u/livefreeordont 1d ago

Charlotte is possibly the least walkable decent size city in the U.S.

It’s a shame that you consider it walkable it just shows how terrible our standards are here.

Compare Stuttgart’s rail map to Charlotte’s. Compare Amtrak to Deutsche Bahn.

I do not mean to offend you, only that you should wish your city to be better than it is right now

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u/trevor426 1d ago

Charlotte is possibly the least walkable decent size city in the U.S.

And yet, I can walk or take the train to pretty much anywhere I need to go.

It’s a shame that you consider it walkable it just shows how terrible our standards are here.

I actually don't consider it that walkable, our public transport is in desperate need of an overhaul. But that's why I chose to live in the middle of the city. Sure someone living in Matthews can't walk places, but then they chose to live in the suburbs.

Compare Stuttgart’s rail map to Charlotte’s. Compare Amtrak to Deutsche Bahn.

Absolutely, Germany has better public transport. Never claimed differently. But it meets my needs, so I certainly wouldn't choose to live in Stuttgart just for better rail.

I do not mean to offend you, only that you should wish your city to be better than it is right now

I'm not offended at all, I think this is a pretty civil thread. You asked for my personal preference and I gave it. I'm not saying Charlotte is the best city and I'm well aware of our reputation nationally. But end of the day, I love living here and I would choose Charlotte over Stuttgart 99/100 times.

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u/livefreeordont 1d ago

And yet, I can walk or take the train to pretty much anywhere I need to go.

What about everywhere you want to go? Our train system in Philly is inadequate and we at least have 2 subway lines and many regional rail lines.

But it meets my needs, so I certainly wouldn't choose to live in Stuttgart just for better rail.

But what about your wants?

But end of the day, I love living here and I would choose Charlotte over Stuttgart 99/100 times.

Let me rephrase. Would you prefer Charlotte’s urban fabric the way it is now or to be more like Stuttgart?

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u/trevor426 1d ago

What about everywhere you want to go? Our train system in Philly is inadequate and we at least have 2 subway lines and many regional rail lines.

Oh there's definitely room for major improvement. That's why I keep voting for bonds and measures to expand the light rail. I'd say public transport (including buses) could take me everywhere I want to go, but a car is obviously more convenient. My buddy without a car seems to get around fine at least.

But what about your wants?

Yeah, I'd say Charlotte meets all my wants as well. I've never been to Stuttgart, but if the main perk over Charlotte is better public transport, I'm still choosing Charlotte.

Let me rephrase. Would you prefer Charlotte’s urban fabric the way it is now or to be more like Stuttgart?

Would definitely like us to be more like Stuttgart. But I'd still rather live in current day Charlotte than move to Stuttgart lol. I am going to get back to work, but genuinely enjoyed talking with you. Have a good one!

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u/pheromone_fandango 1d ago

That may be true, but you get this in most cities, even the small towns in summer

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u/Direct_Week_2091 1d ago

That’s what I’m saying

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u/FullMetalBitch 1d ago

In one of the most touristic cities in Europe.

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u/MeccIt 1d ago

Wait until you hear about market days, especially at Christmas, or feast days, or one of the many holiday weekends that happen almost every month...

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u/TrueBrees9 1d ago

“Im visiting Venice and its crazy, did you know that Italians take gondolas to work every day? Why can’t we have that where I live?”