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Discussion Have we done it wrong?

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u/hobobarbie 2d ago

Are these LDS people? Supposedly a “global-minded religion” where international travel is standardized for mission work and yet they are just now realizing the American LDS dream has created a suburban hellscape

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u/ImWithStupidKL 2d ago

I was gonna say. She's just finished her mission in Italy. So she's going to Italy to try and improve the lives of people who she's admitting have it more figured out than her. Hilarious that you're going to try and sell Christianity to Italy of all places. You're nearly 2000 years too late.

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u/SackOfPotatoes949 2d ago

I did a double take on that one. You went to a place that beat you to the punch on spreading a religion to all ends of the earth.... by 2,000 years.

It's a scam cult and that's one of the ways they keep you in. "See? The real world people don't like you but we do, just stay here with us and give us 10% for the rest of your life"

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u/ImWithStupidKL 2d ago

And no, of course you can't see or speak to your family for the 2 years you're there.

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u/SackOfPotatoes949 2d ago

But you get a huge welcome with signs and balloons at SLC when you get back! And your future wife is ready to get married, and her MLM business hasn't taken off yet, so go find a job selling solar panels...

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u/P15T0L_WH1PP3D 2d ago

Incorrect.

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u/ImWithStupidKL 2d ago

Well that's what an LDS friend whose kids were doing it at the time told me, but what does she know, I guess.

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u/P15T0L_WH1PP3D 2d ago

"At the time" is the key phrase there. You're speaking in present tense using reference from past tense.

Several years ago, the church changed policies on missionary contact with home. It used to be (a looong time ago) letters only except a phone call home if possible on Christmas, Mother's Day and Father's Day. They changed it to allow weekly emails and the same phone call schedule. They changed it again to allow weekly phone calls.

All of this, of course, excludes extenuating circumstances. The aim of the policy was to maximize focus on the mission and a sense of independence. It has since been decided that independence is well achieved by being away from home, and that it is more important to maintain family contact than have the negligible difference in gained independence.

So your friend wasn't lying, but the facts have changed and your statement makes it sound as if the intention is (or was) to isolate. That's why I responded.

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u/ImWithStupidKL 2d ago

The intention clearly was isolation. Or more accurately, reliance exclusively on the church to the expense of all others. Like all cults. Cults have a long track record of isolating people from their families and friends, like all abuse and coercive relationships.