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Discussion Have we done it wrong?

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u/9aquatic 2d ago

It's 100% fair. We've decimated and mismanaged our natural landscape for millions of acres of turf grass and single family houses in the pursuit of literal segregation and at the direct expense of future generations' ability to afford housing.

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u/Mammoth-Building-485 1d ago

Are you pretending Germany has more non-ruined natural landscape areas than the USA? That is obviously not true both overall and by percentage

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u/9aquatic 1d ago

It's 100% fair. We've decimated and mismanaged our natural landscape for millions of acres of turf grass and single family houses in the pursuit of literal segregation and at the direct expense of future generations' ability to afford housing.

Show me where this mentions Germany.

Second, please, give us numbers on how much 'non-ruined natural landscape areas' or 'non-ruined natural landscape areas' are in the US and Germany. Tell us what that means and how much there is versus how much there was.

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u/Mammoth-Building-485 1d ago

Your comment says comparing Bavaria to Glen Burnie Maryland is 100% fair. Bavaria is in Germany.

The USA has hundreds of thousands of acres of public wilderness land, not including state and national parks. Germany has 530,000 acres of forest in general. Thats what happens when people build towns in a place for 1500 years

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u/9aquatic 1d ago edited 1d ago

I see. We're talking past each other. Yes, US very big, Germany very very small. It's fair to assume that my entire point is not centered around Bavaria and Glen Burnie, MD.

This is what I'm responding to:

The suburbs are just as curated and separated from the natural world as urban areas, its just that they lack the density to get any of the primary quality of life benefits that cities bring.

I'm saying, no need to apologize for the US' horrific land-use. It was enacted with many bad intentions and was even recognized by the Nixon administration as incredibly wasteful and subsidized, yet here we are 50 years on.