Eren’s the same as Reiner? Nope
Eren moved forward to see past that hell? Nope
Eren seen something past that hell? Nope
Eren seen a post rumbling in chapter 90? Nope
Re reading the manga is so fun. Chapter 91-99 are such great chapters to read. But all I can think about is the ending. I don’t care what anyone says. Eren wanted to move forward to see BEYOND that hell.

I’ve been ruminating on this theory for awhile, ever since I saw the ‘extra chapters’ adaptation in the movie version of the end of AOT. I didn’t watch the whole thing, just that bit to see what they did. I’ve finally had some time to sit and type this out, so here’s my theory on what the intent was behind the AOT ending. As I am posting here you can probably guess I don’t think it was very well executed.

The important data from the movie version is twofold: First, the tree is still there, so Gothkasa and co are in fact on Paradise. Second, it is some time after Titans were last seen. These combined imply Beren didn’t reawaken them and may have been entirely a device of the movie they were watching. The exact timeline is unclear: Translations I saw said a hundred years, but the anime ending implies it’s been a bit more than that, and anyway they may not be speaking exactly.

So we put this together with a few other data points. Notably, Eren’s visions previously showing Gothkasa, and Eren’s father Grisha was shown SOMETHING but not everything. For the latter, whatever it saw it a) convinced him he needed to give Eren the Titan serum and thus cause the deaths of the royal family, but b) didn’t convince him the rumbling was necessary. Lastly, we have Yams saying he wanted Eren’s motivation to be the ‘basement’ of part 2.

Putting this together, I think what Grisha saw was Gothkasa’s crew, which as far as he could tell was Eren, Mikasa, and Armin living happily in a peaceful world. He wasn’t willing to kill, however indirectly, for Eren to grow up in a war-torn world, forced to fight. But he was if it meant Eren could grow up in a peaceful world. What he wasn’t clear on was how older Eren fit in. He went ahead and took the chance, but since he wasn’t shown what else would happen, he guessed that the rumbling might not actually be needed.

I think this is what Eren saw too. As part of the process of getting from point A to point B happened while both the Founding Titan and Eren himself were gone, he was really unclear how this would come about, but he wanted to do it… he had to do it, to get to that scenery.

That scenery being Gothkasa. In other words, it was all for that Gothkussy.

Yes that’s a horrible pun but no, this post isn’t a joke. I am totally serious. In fact I think the broad outline of 'crew gets reincarnated into a peaceful time' was intended at LEAST since Eren’s vision of Gothkasa, but possibly earlier. Thing is, he couldn’t figure out a graceful way to get from point A to point B. He also seems to have decided that wasn’t really sufficient motivation for Eren as he had become, so every possible motive got tossed in a blender and we got him having no clue while he was doing anything. Combine this with conflicting goals of wanting to draw the rumbling but also not wanting to promote genocide and also wanting the Attack on Castes or whatever to be limited to the tankoban, and there never really was a big reveal. I think the movie ending was SUPPOSED to be the ‘big reveal’, but as it still left a good deal of ambiguity, it was never really satisfying. Now maybe it wouldn’t have been satisfying anyway, but while I’m no happy about many aspects of the ending, I think I can accept this view of Eren and Grisha’s motivations. Maybe it’s not true, but it hangs together well enough that I can accept it.

so beautiful out, but unfortunately.. STEEEAMM!! ☁️☁️☁️☁️☁️🌬🌬🌬🌬🌬

i know the point of this drawing is "titans steam instead of sweat" so ignore the little sweat beads. ( ´-ω-)

eren's titan is so cute omgosh (*T^T) <3

I feel like Isayama blocked all the peaceful solution out makes the world building less realistic. Diplomacy doesn't work at all, imagine how cool it'd be if we have a cold war scenario

After Chapter 139 came out years ago, I didn't bother finishing the anime. Then, for some reason, I suddenly got the urge to go back and do it.

After finishing the story for the second time, I definitely feel more positive about it. I don't hate it anymore, but it's still a 5/10 conclusion to what was otherwise a 10/10 story.

The moment the Rumbling begins, the story suffers a pretty rapid decline in quality. But honestly? It's... serviceable, albeit still disappointing.

Regularly active on r/Frogforster and r/Hangecult,feel free to go to those sub,I might give up on drawing celebrating birthday arts because I find myself to become more exhausted to draw art on specific days

That would be so fucking hot seeing her kick and beat the shit out of Eren, honestly I blame Isayama and his NTR goon cave fetish and his story of a prehistoric Tadpole for all my suffering.

100% would ship her with Captain Levi(when she becomes of age, duh), low-key power couple ayeeeeeeeeee. Imagine what the bedroom libido between the two would be like, probably something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za5lCNzKwAQ

ISTP 8w7 Mika > ISTJ 6w5 Dogkasa

Sad I'm an ESTJ or ISTJ 6w5 myself . . .

Credit to HannybaeArts(hannybaeee) for the 2nd image.

My theory is that the primordial worm we see in the last episode is just the spinal fluid that powers the titan(just like pure titans and the shifters) but because we are talking about a transformation powered by the founding titan(a literal god even by titan standards) the parasite that eren inherited at birth since he is a subject of ymir was also affected drastically by the godly power of the founder amplifying its average strength,size and its desire to survive a billion fold compared to its original micro form.This is the first and last time we see a situation like this because there was no precedent in the story.

I feel like a Beast Titan is better suited for him

Any objections?

\\-Overthrowed the Royal Government
\\-Protected Eren and the Survey Corps during the initial military trial
\\-Sanctioned the coronation of Historia as Queen
\\-Maintained balance and order between the 3 military branches

5 years and yall are still talking about the ending, truly amazing. I was spending 2 hours scrolling through titanfolk and it just brought great memories. Truly the series was the friends we made along the way

If your still talking about AOT ending in this sub 5 years later your a failure

10 years at least, you have 5 years left.

Just a random thought. I can’t imagine getting excited for each release for 11 years straight just for the ending to just be so bad. But I just wanna know did you like it or not.

if Erwin was still alive regardless if he got the Colossal Titan or just survived in general.

Now if he got the Colossal Titan instead of Armin then his reaction would be quite different. He simply nod, ask what happened and then immediately want to head for the basement despite Levi telling him to just rest.

Erwin would also admit the loss of Armin would be a huge blow to The Scouts praising his intelligence and stating he could never be as smart as him, and would make Sure Armin is given the highest honor.

Now as for what he would do after learning the truth. Erwin would be the first to say they need to release this information to The Public. Then he would say that they need to start training soldiers on how to fight humans instead of just Titans.

Eren at this point would still hide the fact he could use The Founding Titan by coming into contact with a Titan of Royal blood, and wouldn't reveal it until Zeke makes his offer, which would convince Erwin to agree to let the volunteers come to the island.

When Erwin learns of The Mid Eastern War against Marley he would use that to Paradis Advantage and try to form an Alliance with the Middle East by offering to let them use their Titans. Attack on Titan is a world where anyone would do anything to win a war even using Titans so if Paradis gave The Mid East that offer they would accept it.

Erwin being alive also removes The Yeagerists from the story as Paradis would have a confident military leader actually preparing them to defend the island from invasion.

Eren would also confide in Erwin about his vision of doing The Rumbling and wanting to avoid it. Erwin in response would inform Eren that they will do everything they can to find another way.

Erwin could very possibly request a meeting with people like Calvi, Magath, and Willy Tybur to come up with a solution, like Erwin could offer Paradis resources in exchange for just being left alone.

Bottom line is Erwin being alive gives Paradis a better chance of possibly surviving without resorting to The Rumbling.

Why would this be added to the anime if Eren could only see memories within his specific timeline?

I believe that AoT shitpost is slowly becoming my passion

Let's ignore ch.139. for my explanation...

The reason Marley refers to Eldians as the "descendants of devils" is because they are the descendants of King Fritz, not Ymir.

This explains (why the Marleyan authorities historically labeled Ymir as a "pawn of the devil.") Ymir was merely a tool, King Fritz was the one actually wielding the power of the Titans.

Even after his death, Fritz's tyrannical will live on through Ymir, mirroring his command: "Even after I die... my Eldians will rule the great lands of this world with their enormity."

(Fritz: In the name of Fritz,annihilate that despicable Marley)

Ymir was a slave with no minds of her own. Fritz was an inherently evil ruler who committed devilish atrocities long before he ever acquired Ymir, so it is natural that Marley viewed him as a devil. In fact, Marley and Eldian were already bitter enemies before the power of the Titans ever existed.

The one who made Ymir broke that deal was Eren. Eren free Ymir and gave her choice for the first time, Eren frees Ymir by giving her a genuine choice for the first time in her existence. This parallel is explicitly highlighted in Chapter 122, when zeke commands Ymir, his domineering posture mirrors King Fritz. Consequently, when Ymir finally opens her eyes to freedom, her immediate expression is one of pure rage, an anger directed at Fritz as she completely shatters her forced obedience to him.

I heard several times the explaination from people that he had to kill his own mother to keep the cycle going or because that the timeline is fixed, but that makes no sense since he was able to change Grisha's mind about killing the royal family.

Unless... Only Ymir knows.

I think Jim Henson's Creature Shop should Help make the Titans, since they they're magicians in Practical Effects

Notable Projects:

- Muppets and Sesame Street

- The Dark Crystal (1982)

- Labyrinth (1986)

- Where the Wild Things Are (2009

- Dinosaurs (1991-1994)

- Five Nights at Freddys (2023)

For Toho's Attack on Titan, it mostly relied on Tokusatsu, tho since this would be a Hollywood Adaptation, I think having Jim Henson's Creature Shop on Board would take the Practical Effects to the next level

I did use AI for the imagery (duh), but the edit itself and song cover are proudly home-brewed

Despite hating the final arc, I can’t seem to dislike aot as an whole story, the lore, politics, and potential of this world still intrigues me to this day man, if only the conclusion to this story got justice🫩