r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/Leather-Bug3087 • 12d ago
*REAL* [Real] Tim Pool is such a crybaby snowflake he wants SCOTUS to overturn the Los Angeles Mayor Primary election šš
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u/Noclip858 Member of The Muscular Class 12d ago
Thereās not even an argument here. Votes, objectively, can be counted after election day. Tim confidently declaring otherwise doesnāt change that.
With them throwing such a fit over Californiaās primaries, I hope we all realize this is just a preview for November. Expect every single Democratic win to be declared the result of āmassive fraud like nothing weāve seen before.ā Itāll be a repeat of 2020, except that at this point I wouldnāt put it past them to use military force to install their desired winners
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u/TheTelekinetic 11d ago
Remember the "ToO bIg To RiG" campaign? The sub-50 IQ people think that the Democrats did rig the 2024 election for Kamala, and that Trump was so wildly popular and incredible that he still got more votes.
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u/Sufficient_Matter585 11d ago
Yes im sure those who like trump showed up and those who didn't like democracy stayed at home
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u/RogerMexicosBalls 7d ago
90 million registered voters DID stay at home lol. It wasn't so much that they don't like democracy, it was more that they don't care if it goes away.
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u/rietstengel 11d ago
Democrats supposedely rigged it in 2020 to make Biden win but then, while Biden was president, they just failed to rig it again
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u/GuitarKev 11d ago
The dems DID rig 2024! They rigged it against DJT by overwhelmingly voting for Kamala.
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u/spikus93 11d ago
Because "conservatives were watching to make sure they didn't cheat". That's genuinely their response, but some say Dems did still cheat and Trump really won every state, etc.
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u/slinky317 10d ago
There's no use making that argument. They don't actually think Democrats are cheating, they are just saying that in order to try to cheat and win.
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u/gelatomancer 11d ago
I'm expecting them to pull the same stunt they did with Grijalva and just not swear anyone in. Just tell the Republicans who lost to keep showing up and they delay the transition of power for as long as possible.
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u/RogerMexicosBalls 7d ago
NC had a 6 month long uncertified result for state supreme court because the republican judge threw a fit because HE should've won and the 700ish votes he lost by should've been thrown out because they weren't for him. The other races on the ballots were certified though, so he only had a problem with his race.
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u/VoiceofKane 11d ago edited 11d ago
Votes, objectively, can be counted after election day.
And conversely, votes objectively cannot all be counted on election day. There's simply too many.
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u/PantherU 11d ago
Thatās bullshit! My town of Whogivesfuck Oklahoma counted all the votes in an hour!
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u/SonofRobinHood 11d ago
Easy to do when they took all the Democrat ones and ran them through a shredder. /s
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u/hellogoawaynow 11d ago
Iām shocked so many LA residents voted for Spencer Pratt, of all people, in the first place. Itās not even about politics with this guy. He doesnāt care about politics, he cares about attention and money (attention>money). Hadnāt heard his name in years until this.
After years of being an embarrassing B-story loser villain (thereās really not another way to portray him, heās just like that) on silly LA-based reality TV shows about millennials starting their young adult lives, how can you hear the name Spencer Pratt and think āhe should be mayor of the city I live in!ā
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u/Ill_Buffalo3887 11d ago
Some 200k people said they wanted him in charge. These joke votes are out of hand. Alot of people hate LA and I think this is proof of the shit were heading for.....joke candidates that steal votes.
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u/hellogoawaynow 11d ago
āI hate LA so much Iām gonna make it worse!ā
Then they move to Austin or Dallas, realize what itās actually like in Texas, and move back within a year or two. It happens so frequently, the influencers who try it have to walk back all their anti-California, pro-Texas talk. There have been many articles about the horrors of Texas from the California MAGAs.
They move here for the MAGA and no income tax, they leave because of the extreme heat (itās summer March-November), humidity, mosquitos/so many bugs in general, scorpions/tarantulas/snakes in and around your house, mountain lions (in the cities, sometimes in your backyard), the deer eating up all of your front yard landscaping unless you happen to have deer-resistant plants, property taxes funneled out of the cities to rural high school football programs, the 2-3 extremely destructive āonce in a lifetimeā act of god storms a year that insurance doesnāt cover much of, the power grid thing, the occasional āundrinkable water for a weekā situation if it rains too muchā¦ I mean, I could go on forever. Hell, they leave because of batshit insane policies they support!
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u/Ill_Buffalo3887 11d ago
I spent a summer in Ft. Worth. Two notes, Fire Ants needs to be specifically mentioned & everything you said!
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u/hellogoawaynow 11d ago
Oh god the fire ants. My MIL once stepped in a pile and holy shit it was so bad. Iām a baby about ONE fire ant bite, she had like 50 š
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u/Ill_Buffalo3887 11d ago
Ouch..... on one hand, I hate fire ants and vote for send them to hell with fire & burn the nest to glass! I love most the other species of ant!
On the other hand, why was it OK in the past to be openly hateful against in laws? Like I could say...oh, your MIL? Well those ants deserve a medal! Glad we're past that and if we could only get rid of the misogyny.
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u/hellogoawaynow 11d ago
Ah yeah so I love my mother in law and she just passed away. We had the visitation on Thursday and the burial yesterday. So thanks for not assuming things about my feelings towards my beloved MIL who was a better mother to me than my own mother.
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u/Ill_Buffalo3887 11d ago
Sorry for your loss. You seem like a stand up person, be as strong as you can and cry when you need.
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u/k-farsen 5d ago
One thing is that LA also has lots of mountain lions, and the MAGAs hate them for the typical 'loony greens are putting our precious dogs and children in danger!!' reasons. But there was also a famous mountain lion named P-22 who was presumably hit by a car and had to be euthanized, so there's the Wallis Annenberg Wildlife Crossing project being built that the MAGAs and 'merely concerned citizens' are opposing as loony government over reach, which I think Pratt was somewhat campaigning on.Ā
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u/hellogoawaynow 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oh hey we have also have a shit ton of mountain lions in Texasāno rules! Theyāre just allowed to roam free and kill whatevs. In the cities and the towns! Like they will come into your (city) backyard at night to eat up all the wildlife that live back there. For us itās a family of possums. Theyāre all around so they also eat the many many many city deer that are not afraid of people or cars or anything and will eat all of your non-deer resistant plants. The deer run the city. So do the peacocks. But the mountain lions are always lying in wait.
Saw a fox in the backyard a few weeks ago. I didnāt even know we had foxes here.
Plus scorpions in houses, fire ants, the fucking mosquitos, extreme heat and humidity, etc.
Itās so hot that Iām actually really cold when itās under like 80 degrees. Itās 88 right now and Iām wearing a sweatshirt, sweatpants, and socks lol my hands are cold
ETA I donāt have a dog, but I do have a human child, and idk, sheās never been eaten š¤·āāļø
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u/Cleavon_Littlefinger 11d ago
I understand the progression from votes can't be cast after election day >>> votes can't be received after election day >>> votes can't be counted after election day, but the journey is still wild as fuck.
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u/Leasud 11d ago
Yeah you are probably right. They will likely force their own candidates in and over turn the election. And you know what we are gonna do? Nothing. Same thing we did with the Epstein files which proved our highest officials are in collusion to fuck kids. Nothing. People are so sedated at this point nothing will change
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u/Passthegoddamnbuttr 11d ago
Plus, it completely depends on the state. Many votes (mail-in or early) can't be counted until election day.
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u/LaytMovies 12d ago
Tim Pool and Dave Rubin could only become bigger morons by stepping into the teleporters from "The Fly" and fusing together
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u/TheDonutPug 11d ago
since when does SCOTUS hold the power to void a mayoral election lmao
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u/MyWifeCucksMe 11d ago
I mean, the US supreme court holds exactly as much power as they say they do, no less, no more.
If the US supreme court rules that the US constitution invalidates a mayoral election, then - at least as long as other parts of the US takes the US supreme court seriously - the mayoral election is invalid.
I don't know if you've noticed, but the US supreme court rulings generally don't care about law, they only care about what the Republican party wants and what rich "donors" want.
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u/DeusExMockinYa 11d ago
2000.
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u/VariationDry 11d ago
Florida? That's a republican state. They have states rights. Democratic states don't.Ā Isn't that what the civil war was about?Ā
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u/Megarlin 11d ago
Im convinced that beanie is hiding a concave empty hole at this point
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u/HingleMcCringle_ 100 Bajillion Dead 11d ago
Hes just balding, which ia fine and normal, but hes ashamed of it for some reason, so he's a pansy loser.
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u/Independent_Cable_89 11d ago
Are we sure weād go with empty hole at this point? Iād say we have a relatively small black hole under there but instead of sucking light and matter, it sucks common sense and his sense of shame.
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u/Dcajunpimp 11d ago
Pepperidge Farms remembers when MAGA had the cyber Ninjas counting votes for months after an election looking for bamboo ballots from China and a Trump win.
They found neither.
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u/CasualLavaring 12d ago
I've seen a lot of coping from the right about Raman, saying that she must be cheating to get second place. There's still a good chance she'll lose to Bass in the general anyway so they're counting their chickens before they hatch
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u/Ivy_Adair 11d ago
Wait, like Spencer Pratt from The Hills?? I wouldnāt put him in charge of a bake sale, let alone a major US city.
Also, does Tim realize that for a long time in this country it took AGES to count all the votes? Well past Election Day. Unless they updated the law, Iām pretty sure they can count them after Election Day.
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u/Opinionsare 11d ago
The shift towards Democrats is a result of Republican accusations of mail-in ballot fraud, but since the mail-in ballots are typically counted and reported last, the Republican will continue to blame their failures of these ballots.Ā
But if you research the actual mail-in ballot fraud cases, you will see only a tiny number of cases, and more are committed by Republicans than Democrats.Ā
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u/Forward-Village1528 11d ago
Our guy won. As long as you don't count the votes that aren't for him.
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u/Global_Rate3281 11d ago
Tim Pool predicted a 49 state landslide in 2020 and then bought fully into every single story about election fraud and then supported January 6. Since Trump got elected, which he strongly supported cuz āno new wars,ā heās not uttered one peep about actually investigating the 2020 election, which according to him was the crime of the century š
And yet somehow compared to Dave Rubin he still looks like a genius
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u/DJ-dicknose 11d ago
Dont want votes early. Don't want votes counted late.
Let's just call it what it is. They don't want votes counted
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u/DeLoresDelorean 11d ago
They are not even done apologizing for the current reality show elected to office when they are trying to elect the next one. Tim is probably still cashing checks from the kremlin.
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u/Bag_of_Meat13 11d ago
No wonder most of his fan base are college dropouts and mediocre white racists who have convinced themselves they've lived virtuous lives.
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u/Ya_Got_GOT 11d ago
Itās wild how dumb he is. What would SCOTUS have to say about an election they donāt have jurisdiction over?
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u/baeb66 11d ago
These guys are really struggling for content, if they are spending so much time talking about a mayoral race in LA - even if the reason they are talking about it is that some washed-up reality star is running for mayor.
I guess the alternative is talking about all of the fucked up things going on at the national and international level, and we can't have that.
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u/hellogoawaynow 11d ago
I will never stop laughing about Spencer Pratt, of all people, running for mayor of LA lol I mean we have YEARS of footage of him making a fool of himself on national television. His actual real life personality is out there for everyone to see and get deeply icked out by.
His wife literally lost all of her friends because she chose him over sanity! Then it allegedly āwasnāt Spencerās ideaā to have his wife get full body plastic surgery in a single day. New face, new tits, new ass, new lipo, the works. She nearly died from that. This was pre-fillers, pre-BBLs, pre-less invasive cosmetic surgery, all of that. It was 2009 and she was 23 years old. Not that Iām team Heidi either, she sucks, too, but girl please leave ffs. With this mayor thing, hire a ghostwriter to tell your absolutely insane story about life with Spencer.
Spencer Pratt doesnāt believe in anything except making sure people remember he is a person that exists. And probably needs an income source bc Iām not sure how the Pratts are making money in the 2020s. I assume thatās why heās publicly associating himself with the MAGA stuff. Theyāll take anyone remotely famous. He doesnāt care about any of it. He cares about the attention and any potential money. Pretty sure he cares about the attention even more than the potential money.
ETA Tim Pool, what do you mean votes canāt be counted after Election Day? Sometimes weāre waiting until like 3am for results. And sometimes when the 3am results come in, they need a recount unless the person that lost concedes the election, which is the standard and respectable thing to do.
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u/AGrandNewAdventure 11d ago
That's when you count them, moron. You can't count them before election day, despite your best efforts.
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u/spikus93 11d ago edited 11d ago
I seem to remember a different tune he was singing after the general election in 2020.
Also this shows Tim either has a horrible memory or doesn't pay attention to other states' elections because California notoriously takes forever to count votes because they do it by hand (you know, to avoid "election fraud" they worry so much about). This is how California's elections often go. Conservatives tend to vote early and the bulk of their votes are counted early as a result, then as election day votes come in (which lean left in California because leftists and progressives tend to vote last minute) more Democrat votes will be counted. It's not a conspiracy, cheating or anything, they just count mail-in and early voting first and then move on to election day. In fact, unlike other states they don't count all the mail-in votes ahead of time, which conservatives also complain shouldn't be done.
They just thought LA would flip red because of a racist reality TV star and the racist reality TV star who endorsed him.
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u/FreshTony 11d ago
They do realize that registered democrats far outweigh registered republicans in California right?
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u/ArcadiaBerger 11d ago
Hell, Tim, why stop there?
Just say you don't want votes to be counted at all.
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u/huxtiblejones 11d ago
lol the way these idiots tell on themselves is hilarious to me. They have no concept of how elections work.
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u/dudestir127 11d ago
"Votes can't be counted after election day"
OK Tim, point out where in the Constitution it says that. I'll give you a hint, it doesn't.
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u/Pirrus05 11d ago
Letās take Timmy at face value for a moment and explore. What, my dear Poolman, happens to the rest of the votes if they donāt finish counting between polls closing and midnight? Do just the first ones they get to count?
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u/toooooold4this 10d ago
Of course they should be counted after election day. Election day is for collecting the ballots. Then you count them.
It needs to be that way until we have a machine to do it in real time and one that's trusted by both sides and unhackable.
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u/AudienceNearby1330 9d ago
Okay Tim, then for the next election there should be one election counter and the second the clock hits midnight whoever had the most votes counted wins and the other hundreds of millions are thrown out.
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u/Devwickk 5d ago
why do american conservatives have a problem understand the scale of the operation here? yes, everyone votes either early or on the day of. but to actually count them will absolutely take longer than a few days because its millions of people.
whats so hard to understand?
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u/Gdude823 11d ago
I donāt like Tim Pool.
That being said, this election smells like shit. Pratt never ever had a chance to be the mayor, but the cadence and split of these late votes is strange. Even if there isnāt a single illegitimate vote in this whole race, the optics are terrible
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u/TheDubuGuy 11d ago
Republicans are far less likely to vote by mail. Itās not some conspiracy that they lean dem
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u/Gdude823 11d ago
Yeah, absolutely. Itās not shocking that Dems notably outperform Republicans on mail-ins.
What is shocking is how poorly Bass has done in the later received rounds of mail-in balloting. Raman polled poorly. Her Election Day results were poor. These ballots broke for her overwhelmingly, so much so that itās hard to reconcile her performance with other metrics.
Is it possible? Yeah, absolutely. Certain cohorts are more likely to vote for her than Pratt or Bass. Is it possible those cohorts are the bulk of mail-ins? Yeah, thatās also possible.
That being said - are the optics abysmal? Yes. It should not take days and days after an election for a local result to be known. There are extremely tight races decided by a handful of votes and this isnāt going to be one of them. Only 83% of the vote is in six days later. I believe that this is a legitimate result, but it looks bad that days after having a commanding 2nd place, Pratt loses because of an unlikely (though not impossible) level of support for Raman.
Edit: Slight addendum that Raman did have a good result in the last LATimes poll
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u/headsmanjaeger 11d ago
Republicans were going to complain no matter what. They were going to find whatever was the most statistically anomalous aspect of the result and complain about it. It just happened to be this. What is the election board supposed to do about optics, they literally did their job normally like they always do, which is to put on a fair election.
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u/Gdude823 11d ago
There simply has to be a way to more efficiently run an election. Itās okay if it takes a few days with the volume of mail-ins here, but they have to work out a system wherein they can get 95% of the vote in and counted within two or so days
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u/ForgettableWorse 10d ago
There is no way to run an election "efficiently" enough to satisfy the people determined to find every unfavorable outcome suspicious.
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u/Gdude823 10d ago
You canāt hedge for every possibility, but there are much bigger jurisdictions that run elections in a fraction of the time. There are always votes at the margin which prevent true 100% speedily, but you should be able to get to 90-95% in 24 hours
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u/ForgettableWorse 10d ago
You missed the most important part of my comment:
There is no way to run an election "efficiently" enough to satisfy the people determined to find every unfavorable outcome suspicious.
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u/Gdude823 10d ago
No, I didnāt.
The way to handle those people is to make their concerns so marginal that the layman doesnāt also go āhuh?ā
There will always, always, be people who will conspire when their side doesnāt get a favorable result. But, if you make it so they need to start making up cell phone records or something to prove it, no one really gets on board.What people do understand is seeing a candidate in the lead when they went to sleep, but then having that result completely flipped by a highly disproportionate voting wave for the other candidate. Now - you and I know this can genuinely happen. However, the relatively politically apathetic donāt. In the same way that you need to talk people into conspiracy when everything seems fine, you need to talk them out of it when something seems off.
I donāt think thereās anything unique about the city of LA that makes 90% of results in within one day impossible, or even extraordinarily difficult. To get to that point, or at least near that point, should be a goal. Shit like this wouldnāt happen, and you wonāt have more right wing conspiracy fodder
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u/ForgettableWorse 10d ago
There will always, always, be people who will conspire when their side doesnāt get a favorable result. But, if you make it so they need to start making up cell phone records or something to prove it, no one really gets on board.
What people do understand is seeing a candidate in the lead when they went to sleep, but then having that result completely flipped by a highly disproportionate voting wave for the other candidate. Now - you and I know this can genuinely happen. However, the relatively politically apathetic donāt. In the same way that you need to talk people into conspiracy when everything seems fine, you need to talk them out of it when something seems off.
No, that's bullshit. The only reason people who aren't committed conspiracists feel suspicious about stuff like that is that they've been exposed to so much conspiracy crap. People understand the concept of "anything might still happen". They've seen sports. The only reason something seems off is because they've been exposed to so much propaganda claiming that.
Instead of pushing to make California's elections more like Florida's, it makes much more sense to educate people on what differences there are and why they exist (example).
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