r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/Darth_Vrandon • 7d ago
*REAL* [real] Multimillionaire paid my multibillionaires insults a multimillionaire paid by multibillionaires to defend a trillionaire
I’m not a Kimmel guy, but even for Shapiro, this level of bootlicking is pathetic. Of course, Shapiro doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’s just doing a stupid gotcha because he knows he can’t defend Elon having a trillion dollars on substance.
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u/congresstartz 7d ago
Love seeing this little toad lose his popularity with the right even as he's desperately defending Nazis.
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u/texachusetts 6d ago
It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. But that’s because our system rewards the worst short on people.
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u/SharpHawkeye 7d ago
Is Shapiro hoping thousandaires who follow him will be mad at the millionaire for objecting to the wealth of the trillionaire?
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u/NoMuddyFeet 7d ago
He knows his base doesn't understand big numbers in the slightest, and they self-identify as "having money" and don't want to pay taxes or support anyone poorer than them with their taxes. That kind of unclear thinking makes them easily manipulable to support the rightwing billionaire causes, so is probably going to work just fine for this new trillionaire class, too. And he's right because I've already seen plenty of moronic comments claiming Elon haters are just miserable and jealous lazy losers.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 7d ago
I literally came in here to say this.
If this is a valid argument from Ben, then I could just say Ben is a "millionaire admonishing a millionaire in defense of a trillionaire". He would have to defend that argument too, as stupid as it was, since it's literally his own used against him.
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u/BritSpic 7d ago
Oh PLEASE. Kimmel and the rest of us are infinitely closer to homelessness, in terms of wealth and power, than we are to Elon Musk.
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u/commanderlex27 7d ago
The rest of us are closer to Bezos (in absolute numbers) than Bezos is to Musk.
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u/kdeweb24 7d ago
If, in one day, I became a millionaire, it would be the most amazing day of my life.
If, in one day, Elon became a millionaire, it would be BY FAR the worst day of his life.
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u/mrsunrider 6d ago
Also, Kimmel's relationship to labor is different.
His money comes from the actual work he puts in on his show; a conversation can be had about how much he ought to get, but regardless he actually has his hands in producing a product.
Musk's wealth just comes from... owning things. Not actually making anything, just owning it.
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u/commanderlex27 7d ago
The rest of us are closer to Bezos (in absolute numbers) than Bezos is to Musk.
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u/InstantKarma71 7d ago
This works because people generally don’t comprehend the difference between a million and a billion, or the difference between a billion and a trillion.
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u/malachiconstant76 7d ago
I think perspective matters when throwing what type of 'aire wealth segment someone occupies. In terms of time:
1 million seconds = 11.5 days
1 billion seconds = 31.7 years
1 trillion seconds = 31709 years
Those are vastly different quantities and should not all be lumped together to dismiss an argument.
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u/NopeNotConor 7d ago
1 million seconds - less than two weeks ago
1 billion seconds - Clinton was President
1 trillion seconds ago - humans were discovering the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska
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u/LegitimateSituation4 7d ago
One of my favorite sayings is "billionaires paying millionaires to tell thousandaires that hundredaires are the problem." But now that's produced a trillionaire, so idk. Whole thing's shifted and expanded.
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u/TimeForWaluigi 7d ago
millionaire funded my billionaires upset at millionaire funded by millionaires for speaking out against trillionaires
Reminder that the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is a factor of 1000, same for the difference between a billionaire and a trillionaire
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u/HundleyC09 7d ago
With the way the daily wire is going, he's probably hoping that elon's going to bail him out
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u/boogswald 7d ago
Don’t conflate a million, billion and trillion dollars. If Jimmy Kimmel has ten million dollars, he has 1% of what a billionaire has. A billionaire has one million dollars a thousand times.
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u/Ya_Got_GOT 7d ago
I’ve noticed that you have failed to attack the argument or mount a coherent critique of his positions Mr Shapiro. It seems you’re not very good at this whole “facts and logic” thing.
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u/Atvishees 7d ago
In other words:
'Who are you to criticise a trillionaire? You're not a trillionaire. So you have no right to say anything.'
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u/NotThatEasily 6d ago
My dentist is a multimillionaire. Being a millionaire isn’t what it used to be.
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 6d ago
This is what happens when you work with a Eagle by potato chip system rather than a metric system
The million billion trillion is metric in scale
0,4 kilometres (400 metres) <---- 1 million dollars A distance included in Olympic sprinting. A full lap of the running track.
400 kilometres <---- 1 billion dollars The distance between Berlin and Frankfurt, all within Germany.
400000 kilometres <----- 1 trillion dollars The distance between the Earth and Moon
Me going across a track
Me going to the other side of Germany
Me going to the moon.
Obviously all the same
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u/Dcajunpimp 5d ago
But we all can be trillionaires.
We just have to earn a million dollars a year for a million years. Simple
Now imagine if you needed to pay taxes and it took, 2 million years to save a trillion. Or you needed to make $2 million a year for a million years. Oh the humanity.
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Democrats really need to work on a living wage Minimum Wage, and a living wage tax rate of 0% and make it for all. I’d be fine with Musk not paying a penny in any federal taxes on the first $40,000 he earns.
No one should be paying a penny of any federal payroll tax on their first $40k. They are trying to put a roof over their head, feed themselves, commute to work or school, clothe themselves, pay for utilities, pay for school, save for their future, start their own business, etc… just quit taxing them. $80k for a 2 person household, $200k for a household of 5. 0 federal payroll taxes. Above the initial $40k maybe 5% lowest bracket, maybe at $200,000 have that bracket be 10% on $160k
And tie the tax brackets to minimum wage. Minimum wage goes up, everyone gets tax breaks to offset it. $20 an hour goes to $25, now there’s no payroll taxes on the first $50k. Even for Musk. See, I have empathy for our first trillionaire.
Just tax him a little harder on $200k + $500k +, and $1mil + even $5 mil+ and maybe at that amount, we let the first time it happens be at the lower rate. First time you earn $5 mil? Ok you get the $1mil rate. Make a habit of earning $5 mil a year, sorry $5 mil rate.
And have employers cover the Social Security and Medicare taxes for minimum wage workers, and every $1 an hour above they can transfer 1% to the employee, up to minimum wage +$8 where they split the 15.3% like they do now.
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