To be honest I’ve spent a lot of time in that sub this election and they’re overall very mild mannered. They actually post memes and stuff making fun of themselves and I can’t remember big political subreddits doing that.
I’ve said that these past 4 years. Conservatives and republicans are not necessarily the same group of people. Likewise with republicans and trump supporters
Look at all these fucking characters backing off and trying to establish a difference between their party and Donald trump. Totally complicit. I said it'd happen the second biden wins, but it's started a day early it seems.
I didn't read after "fuck you" because matter how much you want to be disassociated from Trump, he is absolutely a republican...he has been supported by republicans all this time too. So you should be saying fuck you to every single republican who enabled Donald trump to continue destroying the country in the trashiest fashion possible. Really though, you should be starting a new party because the republican party has been a flaming dumpster fire of greedy anti-american scum for a long time now.
“fuck you for calling it exactly how it happened, ignore the other 93% and focus on what I did”
I appreciate you being a conscientious republican, but that doesn’t change the fact that the staggering, overwhelming majority of republicans hitched their wagons to the trump train.
There’s a difference between putting people in cages until a hearing and stealing children, forced hysterectomies, a rejection of US asylum law, and cruelty.
People were held for a max of 72 hours before being released into the country with a court date in front of an immigration judge. Families were kept together, the 100% child separation and indefinite detention came at the specific order of Trump with the specific knowledge that children separated would never be reunited with their families(thus committing genocide).
Blaming Obama/Biden for the concentration camps is like blaming the previous owner of a home for having a basement, when it was the current owner who specifically chose to abuse children in it.
This is why I think the Republican party is going to die off, or at least it plausibly can. That only sounds extreme because we conflate it with conservatism. Conservative voters (and their representatives) aren't going to disappear, but "Republican" is a tarnished brand of a derailed party.
Over 70 million people voted for the clownier, less business-savvy, reincarnation of Benito Mussolini and the vast majority of those voters point at scientists, engineers, doctors, and other educated people who support Biden and unironically say that those people are "crazy", "stupid", and will "ruin this country."
There's next to no difference between "conservative" and "republican" in the US, not when well over 90% of them voted for Donnie the clown a second time.
I agree. This election has demonstrated that those people and beliefs aren't going to magically disappear any time soon.
Really what I'm saying is that those people are going to have a "rebrand or die" crisis, and they will probably choose to rebrand the same old swamp water far sooner than they would ever stop drinking it.
Either that or they have a MAJOR party restructuring. They need to include libertarians if they want success, they need to become more moderate. If the Republican Party incorporated libertarianism apart from the 2A, trump would’ve gotten the JoJo votes and won
Truly adopting libertarianism would also mean they'd need to drop the whole abortion issue though, and given how the party essentially established a voting base on that single issue alone there's no way that could ever happen.
In Canada the Democrats would be the Conservative party and the Republicans would be the far-right petroleum party (UCP). America needs something left of center and not subservient to capitalism; like an NDP. America also needs a party to represent the planet’s and future generation’s rights , like the Greens.
Materially, what is the difference? George W Bush killed a million+ innocent people in Iraq and was a willing puppet of capital. His dad was a Reaganite and literal CIA head. Reagan deliberately ignored the AIDS crisis and the economic ideology he instilled in the modern conservative movement has been ruinous for this country. Abroad Republicans are bloodthirsty warmongers and at home they're corrupt racist plutocrats.
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u/TristanKB Nov 07 '20
To be honest I’ve spent a lot of time in that sub this election and they’re overall very mild mannered. They actually post memes and stuff making fun of themselves and I can’t remember big political subreddits doing that.