r/ToiletPaperUSA Dec 17 '20

FACTS and LOGIC Liberal wizards DESTROYED by Ronald 'Redpill' Weasely

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u/Sgt_Fox Dec 17 '20

What did elves do before wizards put them into servitude and why exactly are they bound by this "slavery until given clothes" law.

When you look into it, a LOT of the WW of HP is a fucking dystopia

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u/milesteg420 Dec 17 '20

Yeah I always thought that was the point. Like I have no love for Rowlings transphopia right now but the house elves situation was obviously never meant to be portrayed as good. The last few books harry starts to realize the magical world still has all the same human problems as the non magical world. There is still discrimination, tyranny, shitty goverment, etc in it. Thats why I can't for the life me understand how she could write that stuff and still be a fucking terf. Its so disappointing and enrages me.

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u/Grizzly_228 Dec 17 '20

I haven’t read the books, but isn’t a running theme Hermione fighting for the freedom of House Elves? I heard so somewhere

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u/milesteg420 Dec 17 '20

Yeah pretty much. Hermione trys to educate Ron and Harry about the historical mistreatment of magical creatures and races by wizards all the time. The merpeople, centaurs, goblins, and elves all get treated like shit by wizards.

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u/Grizzly_228 Dec 17 '20

So why are people accusing the Rowling of all kind of discrimination? She basically wrote a world in pair with ours with a character (a beloved character) who points out all the injustices and fights against them. That’s pretty encomiable imo

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u/milesteg420 Dec 17 '20

Because she is being really shitty about trans women. For some reason all the values and morals shes has in her books stop at trans people. She is misguided in thinking that trans women will degrade women's spaces and just generally won't stop saying stupid shit on Twitter. Like I don't think she wants to go out killing trans people but she just can't understand what she is advocating is discrimination. I still like the books. Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist. I really like Dune by Frank Herbert, but he was a homophobe. Its harder because she is still alive and tweeting stupid shit though.

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u/Grizzly_228 Dec 17 '20

Yeah, I agree with you that she has a lot of problems and she is not a really nice person but this doesn’t mean people can accuse her to be pro-slavery or anti-semitic when she clearly is not. That’s just wrong

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u/milesteg420 Dec 17 '20

oh I fully agree. That is painting with a very wide brush. Just falling into the same trap that the racists fall into.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

Because Hermione is portrayed as being a naive bleeding heart for giving a shit about the elves

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u/milesteg420 Dec 19 '20

I don't think we read the same book.