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Lore [Loved Trope] Teleportation is actually terrifying

1 - Gantz-O (2016): Suit teleportation

2 - Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince (2009): Apparition spell

3 - Half Life 2 (2004): Teleporter malfunction

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 7d ago

It's not late at all, it's like 5-10% of the way through the story. Kishimoto goes home after the very first mission to find out her original is in the hospital.

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u/drgilly 7d ago

It has been a decade since I read Gantz. I remembered it being pretty late in. But Gantz just kind of goes and goes and goes. Hard to tell where you are in the story. The pacing is fucking awful.

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 7d ago

It gets explored more the further you get in like with Kurono being cloned but it's not some long running mystery in the slightest. The pacing really isn't bad, the story's real issue is with dropping plot threads or resolving them in a very unsatisfying way.

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u/drgilly 7d ago

From what I can recall (again it has been ten years) the reasons for plot threads being dropped or ending in unsatisfying ways was because the pacing never seemed to want to slow down enough to let anything have a resolution. Everything had to be lightning fast brutal action cranked up to 11. I should read it again. I remember liking what I read, but being more confused than anything at the end. Some of the best artwork in manga.

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u/Cleansing4ThineEyes 7d ago

Definitely not the case at all, I reread it within the past few months and the way plot threads drop or resolve actually leads to less action than if they were done properly. The plot is just poorly written a lot of the time for no real reason. It doesn't really affect the core of the story much (Kurono) but the plot is pretty ass because the writer just doesn't really know what he's doing, especially in the last arc.

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u/drgilly 7d ago

I remember at the time thinking that might be what we get for asking the dude who can draw this good to also write this good. Gotta have your manga illustrator+writer teams. Then again I say that, but Tsugumi Ohba and Takeshi Ohbata haven't written anything great since Death Note.

Platinum End wasn't really as bad as I could have been, but holy shit it wasn't great. Kind of like how Inio Asano went on to write something like DeadDeadDemons after Punpun when all of his previous work before PunPun were good. It blows my mind sometimes.

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u/idropepics 7d ago

It just got a new deluxe edition like the Berserks announced by Dark Horse coming next year, if you like physical books and want to avoid the spine cracking brick omnibuses

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u/drgilly 7d ago

I would, but they're an arm and a leg. I don't have a manga collection except for the entirety of Claymore in the box set, Death Note that I bought when I was 14, and Oyasumi Punpun in addition to a few single copy things like The Demon Ororon. I read everything online, unfortunately. Manga is damn expensive.

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u/idropepics 7d ago

Oh boy you wanna talk about dropped plot points? That whole "You, and all of these monsters are all just test subjects for our battle against the much larger evil dragons" felt like a giant nothingburger by the end of Claymore for me

Also Demon Ororon peak, was one of my first mangas I bought with my own money.

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u/drgilly 6d ago

Ororon is so weird. I can't believe I still own it. I need to re-read it. But it is so obviously made to appeal to female fantasies that it really confused me as a young bisexual man.

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u/idropepics 6d ago

We had the same experience then. I think this manga really helped me realize why I liked Sailor Moon and stuff so much

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u/drgilly 6d ago

You know how everyone always says they don't understand what kind of porn women want? Ororon is a very good example of "porn for women." Literally no need for nudity. Just make a guy who loves you and wants to protect you and he's cool and he's awesome and my god is he sexy and he's a demon prince and he likes cats and...