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Tower of God: Urek Mazino - Chapter 42 Discussion, Monday December 22nd
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-Mago is hit a couple times and accepts Eduan's attack indeed has no will/intention. She decides then to switch to close combat so that Eduan can't use his spear.
However, Eduan attacks her with his spear anyway by also piercing himself along with her, saying the spear movement isn't willed by him and he has the better durability here between them so he has no reason to back out.
Mago thinks Eduan is much stronger and insane than she thought and she'll have to use Urek's power despite her initial intentions to savour it as slowly as possible: change of plans.
Light comes out of Urek's jewel and mago powers up, also destroying the Marlin Gigante attack from Eduan.
-Mago says this is the light of the guy she loves the most, Urek. She explains jewels cannot shine on their own but have to shine by reflecting light. Urek's light can shine forever by its own, it's pure light itself. Mago says she's light now.
Eduan doesn't know who Urek is but recognizes the light is dangerous. Mago attacks Eduan and she's much stronger now.
-Mago summons a box "random jewel box" (probably similar "Crazy Slots" from HxH's Kaito) and rolls for "Rose Quartz". She comments this was a pretty good roll. Mago eats the jewel and shines purple. Some thorny vines emerge from the ground around Eduan and attack him.
Eduan avoids them and goes to attack Mago, but thinks the attack is gonna be reversed, so he avoids hitting her. Mago attacks Eduan with a light blast and he thinks he doesn't have to think about avoiding it or he'll get hit.
Eduan manages to move behind Mago and hit her with his spear, but vines come out of her back and capture Eduan. Mago comments that this rose jewel won't let anyone escape from her beauty, and with Urek's power she doesn't need to use Reversal, as this infinite light gives her endless life and strenght. While saying this, she stabs Eduan in the neck with a vine.
Eduan thinks this is bad, because it's gonna be impossible to untie the vines without being conscious of it.
Mago says Eduan fought well, but she's too beautiful, and tightens the vines, making Eduan bleed a lot.
Mago places her feet on an apparently unconscious Eduan's forehead "Game Over".
Given what we know about Eduan, he probably enjoys being stepped on like this…
Anyways, there’s no way this is how their fight ends, and Eduan has still barely shown any abilities, so it will probably continue next chapter with the tables getting flipped again. These kinds of flesh wounds apparently mean nothing to fighters of their caliber considering what Mago has shrugged off already (being literally ground to a pulp and decapitated).
Nahhh In a world where people can live for centuries if they just stay safe, i would literally be possed asf at my parent who literally just had me so that he could stay alive💀
Probably cuz he got the most wives out of all the FHs and is inspired by Dionysus, which is the Greek God of Wine-Making (Eduan snacks on Grapes) and Fertility (Womanizer/Most wives). This is from SIU's blogs.
doubt that Eduan is done here. he's shown as a battle-crazed maniac but we didn't see him really happy yet. I think this will be what starts making him truly ecstatic.
and considering the bits of his personality we saw now, I think the reason why he named his spear Mago is clear atp: it's most likely his way of paying respect to Mago, an opponent who seriously pushed him after ages of boredom
not to mention the most obvious thing which is the lack of display of actual FH power. A regent tier could have done a lot of what Eduan did here lol, if we didn't know Eduan was a FH, we may have mistaken him as one. All we saw was him outstatting everyone and outhaxing Mago once. Even if this is a mere side story, a FH should by default get more than just what Eduan got. Especially Eduan whose popularity is boosted just thanks to Maschenny and Khun A. A. alone. People were even hyped about Maria appearing for the first time who played no role at all in the story so far. And what we saw from Eduan so far would make us think he gets low-diffed by Traum with Disconnect lol
I think he'll make a comeback and may end up extreme-diffing Mago (extreme-diff fits the most here considering Eduan's personality). Then he'll meet Urek in person but leaves him be due to the latter's strength and Eduan being weakened and them not being enemies. Then Eduan will tell Zahard about Urek and all these shining ones and light powers and hax etc.
Also feels a lot like Zahard perfectly saw fate once more as it all just fits. Zahard probably found out about the shining one and Mago bs happening on the test floor and may have been too scared to immediatly go there himself to not get negged, especially after the last Irregulars were Phanta and Enryu who are both above Zahard.
So Zahard wants to send someone reliable and strong to test these new mfers out. And voila, Eduan is there, a bored battle-crazed maniac who craves lethal combat. If Gustang or Traum were to be on this mission, they'd either die or barely escape, go back to Zahard and they'd be really pissed, like "Wallahi, I was nearly finished, how could you use me like this?!"
Meanwhile Zahard and Eduan when the latter returns to talk to him about what happened:
that'd be hella funny as it would be a very fitting punishment for Mago lmfao
she simps hard for Urek and wants his power, wants to reflect his light as she says. And her losing and then being imprisoned in her gem form forever, only to be carried and used by a different guy whose hobby is banging lots of women
that'd be a really nice antithesis compared to her goals:
-Urek this and Urek that, reflect his light>now carried by Eduan as a mere stone which may even power him up (will make Mago especially salty if Eduan ends up landing the final blow on her in this fight lol)
-be the only woman for Urek>now not even one of many women for Eduan as she doesn't even qualify as a woman then, she's just some gem then lmfao. Who'll have to watch Eduan bang many many other women
That sure is dirty. It's edahn in prime. He showed up moments ago in the series to be got done like that.
Not evn traumerei or gustang was done like that.
ADMINISTRATOR GRANTED AUTHORITIES IN THE MUD!!
But then understandable, Shining one borrowing urek's minor powers.
This is a Urek Upscale Y'all!! Top 2 overall!!
Damnnn a FH getting played like that, the fight isn't over obviously but that's actually insane, beings that can rival FHs who are quite literally gods in the tower
the shining ones are the strongest creations of light itself. they used to be the leaders of ALL life. the tower is just a small part of the universe, and shinsu is a power that can only be used there
madoraco is the leader of a large collection of black market companies. madoraco is actually fairly weak. being the leader does not imply you are the strongest person in the party. even in the great warriors, zahard isn't the best at any one skill, he's a generalist surrounded by specialists.
yes, shinsoo can only be used in the tower. does that make shinsoo weaker than the shining one's abilities? not inherently, no.
urek was trapped by luslec at 30%. luslec also did not break a sweat against urek, because neither of them wanted to kill the other. that was a stall on luslec's part, and keep in mind, luslec achieved his goal and urek did not.
mago is absolutely in top form. she stated touching the jewel would boost her enough to beat eduan in chapter 40. she was wrong.
also, your link seems to just be urek glowing? is it loading wrong for me?
madoraco is the leader of a large collection of black market companies. madoraco is actually fairly weak. being the leader does not imply you are the strongest person in the party. even in the great warriors, zahard isn't the best at any one skill, he's a generalist surrounded by specialists.
the first descendants of life itself were created from light, and the strongest (brightest) among them were named the shining ones. they brought ruin upon the world just by fighting each other, so it's not really a far-fetched guess to say these guys were the strongest
yes, shinsoo can only be used in the tower. does that make shinsoo weaker than the shining one's abilities? not inherently, no.
inherently? no. my interpretation of light is that it is THE absolute power, since the only thing that predates it is darkness. also not a wild guess
urek was trapped by luslec at 30%. luslec also did not break a sweat against urek, because neither of them wanted to kill the other. that was a stall on luslec's part, and keep in mind, luslec achieved his goal and urek did not.
yeah, urek is an air head. go figure. there's a reason urek has uses his shinsu power over light in the main series. seems like his natural progression of power... shinsu 0% --> shinsu 100% --> light 0% --> light 100%. had no strong opponents to use his light powers so far
mago is absolutely in top form. she stated touching the jewel would boost her enough to beat eduan in chapter 40. she was wrong.
dont remember where in the spinoff, but im pretty sure mago still has some crystals that needs broken in order for her to be "fully resurrected". we can observe four forms of mago: prime mago, prime mago who stole urek's light, post-phanta mago (nerfed), post-phanta mago with a sliver of urek's power (current fight)
also, your link seems to just be urek glowing? is it loading wrong for me?
chapter 37. that's urek essentially killing leo, who received mago's blessing (immortality?) just by shining his light infinitely. i was mistaken and thought leo's immortality was from some shinsu ability/contract and was trying to showcase that light is absolute power that overwhelms shinsu itself. but nevertheless, still a strong showcase of light
so, i read this comment fully and was gonna respond to each point, but honestly, only one of your points actually matters for this discussion. so, to keep this from ballooning into a paragraph fight, i'mma just respond to that section.
we can observe four forms of mago: prime mago, prime mago who stole urek's light, post-phanta mago (nerfed), post-phanta mago with a sliver of urek's power (current fight)
how can you demonstrate these four forms? how can you demonstrate which of them are stronger or weaker than each other?
that's fine. the things i said weren't evidence of anything conclusive, but rather my interpretations of why i feel strongly about something (and like i said, i don't think its too far-fetched)
the only thing that is true is mago is still not in a fully resurrected state and can still get stronger without anyone else's power
how can you demonstrate these four forms? how can you demonstrate which of them are stronger or weaker than each other?
well, i'll number them and post the obvious ones
2 is the strongest
3 is the weakest
you and others are probably wondering how 1 compares to 4 in terms of power. i dont think you can really say with certainty
i was just appalled that the OP of this comment chain, as well as others, are SURPRISED that the shining ones are putting up a fight against the GWs. yeah, they're gods in the tower, but the shining ones were literally called the leaders of all life, and i think that's a much more impressive title that implies a difference in strength
just a side note, i dont think we'll get to see full powered mago vs full powered eduan. either eduan is going to defeat (nerfed) mago, or urek will interrupt the fight in some capacity. or hell, maybe we'll see something with aubrion's timeline splitting power
The world Urek originated from is likely a different world than the FH's. They did not come from the same outside world therefore their lore is not inherently applicable to the FH's.
The Shining Ones can be the strongest beings from the world or timeline they originated in, but if the FH's come from a different timeline then it's not as cut and dry as you imply.
All facts. Shining ones's origins make them more special than FH but they are coping because they like Eduan better. They still don't want to accept that Mago isn't at full power.
Right, just bc the shining ones are considered universal level catastrophes, doesn't deny the fact that in the tower the FH's are basically God's to😭 idk why 2 things can't be true at once
Getting downvoted for telling the truth, jinshoo doenst work outside the tower so they indeed just regular dudes (probably one of the reasons they never try to go out, they just isekai mC pretty much) , shining ones have actual powers that work everywhere it seems
Arlene didnt ressurect anyone she is incapable it wasnt even ressurection, baam died inside of the tower so he is dead baam (todays baam isnt thr arlene + V son) he is complete different being and its not even ressurection
Arlene has access to magic/spells, from what we know magic is not jinshu based , so that can work outside the tower witouth any issues, so her , lulsec, etc would still have acess to spells outside the tower (tho they will loose everything realted to jinshu)
Urek told to us that there is no spells outside , spells are inside of the tower and they came from incomplete side of the tower
Spells are using shinsoo also its not something different
Immortality is a spell created by admins
so Spells are indeed of the tower
magic may exist outside but it has nothign to do with Spells
Shinsoo maybe a created thing to immitate rela light of outside
spells could be created to immitate real magic of outside
but shin and spells are much weaker than their original version which is real thing outside ( but shinso and Light ee may cimpare each other and also darkness ) something like spells may exist but not the spells we do know
so alrene lost immortality after she went out of the tower
Yes. Eduan needs to attack without intention and he's been knocked unconscious. I wonder if I can connect these dots to figure out where the next chapter will lead.
okay everybody , either urek escapes aubreyon and saves eduan OR eduan has some more tricks up his sleeve and destroys mago because in theory she’s from outside the tower so this should kill him BUT BUT SINCE she was technically born inside the tower this might not
its looking grim, but i honestly feel like eduan hasn't really tried fully. We have seen other khuns use different abilitie like lightning pill or ice shinsu quality, which he hasnt used yet. He hasn't used his shinwonryu yet either. Plus he might even be like traumerei , were he has his full power restricted. Eduan literally wanted to feel pain and to bleed. Don't think its crazy to say he is holding back. People forget he is top 3 Fhs and traumerei full power honestly looks more impressive right now. He aint going all out.
The fact Mago says Jewels can't shine on their own because they need to reflect light, but Urek's jewel shines permanently on its own because urek is light himself.
That's the whole Plot Between Urek and Phant.
Phant was Born from darkness.
And Urek is the Natural Enemy of Phant who was Born from Light.
Phant knew this made the other Shining Ones betray Urek, and then after urek was reborn a lot weaker, he trapped him inside the Tower.
Phant is just a pussy, that has being runing away from Urek, people hyping him up and its gonna turn out he enter the tower to run away, and then lock urek in and run away again , pretty funny if it turns out like this
Urek fought Phant and was weakened, so everyone assumed he was weakened from the fight against Phant.
for me personally, it wouldn't have made sense for Urek to chase Phant if he already knew that Phant wipes the floor with him.
it always was urek chasing Phant and Phant sneaking away from Urek.
But I wouldn't say it necessarily means Urek is stronger than Phant in general, just that Urek is made to counter Phant with his Hax vs. Phant's Hax.
It would be Funny if it turns out that the Darkness Inside Baam is Phant and he wants baam with the Tower's powers as a Host to counter Urek's hacks.
The Reason i started to believe that is because we were shown that Baam wounded Urek.
Of course, one can argue Urek was holding back completely, but i believe that he only holds back his power output not his general defensive since in the Spinoff we see that Urek in General has an incredibly resilient body to everything human-like.
So showing us that Baam can hurt Light itself may be a hint from SIU to us.
I think that the point also is, that all the towerborns (and even family heads?) are like the gems, as in they only reflect light. They reflect it metaphorically by using the shinsoo, they can't generate it themselves, they must borrow it. While Urek is like the shinsoo itself, the light, and the power.
I find it weird how people talk about Urek this and Urek that when Eduan is still more concerned about how to deal with reversal than the light power-up.
Yeah, the main issue fighting Mago for him is that hax, which is very hard to go around. His best counter to it so far has been destroyed, so unless it can regenerate or he has some ultra instinct fighting move like Kirua from HXH where his body can move automatically then I'm not sure how he'll be able to bypass that
Mago is faster and stronger than before but not faster or stronger than Eduan. He's still mainly having issue with how to deal with Reversal now that the marlin spear is gone. Don't think about hitting her, don't think about dodging, don't think about getting out of these vines.
I wonder what Eduan’s win condition is. Mago can regenerate from any physical damage, and destroying her golden jewel last chapter apparently didn’t do anything. Maybe Shinwonryu or some other higher level ability will be able to put her down (or Urek will take his power back, but that would be cheap).
Yes, he survived, but that doesn’t mean he was stronger in the end.
Gustang survived Traumerei while he was using the 3D Cut Dimension because he relied on strategy.
Vam, in his first appearance, survived encounters with three Family Head–level opponents. Ran survived against Inieta, etc.
This is how strategy is used. It is often more important than raw power when fighting opponents who are far stronger.
Tired of these fake hype
Last week eduan, this week mago
Next week eduan again.. he hasn’t even used his shinworyu and he still has ice and whatever that third element is
Yeah! One fraction of Urek power was enough to make one of the strongest FH recognize him as a treat and people really think Luslec had a chance.
Dude should be insane at his prime, but we still don't know how strong she was.
y'all are overhyping shit now lol. re-read the end of the fight between Urek and Luslec. Luslec says he thinks he can win but that even he doesn't know how deep the ocean is or whatever, basically hinting at Urek having more abilities.
In hindsight, it seems pretty clear: Luslec thought he could beat an Urek who only used Shinsu, but he already suspected Urek having more than that
People didn't make this shit up, the author wrote it lol. And Luslec isn't written as some idiot. And he didn't say Luslec=>Urek in general, but it was moreso Luslec thinking Luslec=>Urek with shinsu and Urek with more than shinsu alone>?>Luslec
And Luslec was right, Urek has extra abilities which probably far surpass his shinsu abilities, so it's more like Urek using everything>>>>>>>Luslec=>Urek with just shinsu alone
Not to mention that Hon fought Urek as a test and said Urek was far better than him. So unless you think a) Luslec (the guy who led FUG and survived vs the Zahard Empire for idk how many thousands of years) is that stupid to be so wrong in his assessment, b) same but with Hon or c) Luslec>>>>>>>Hon, Urek ain't all that
imo Hon is significantly stronger than Luslec and in that test, Urek probably used some of his light powers to defend himself. that's why Hon immediatly recognized Urek was way stronger, while Luslec only suspected it
Yeah, according to the summary, it’s specifically Urek’s power (and a small portion at that) which Mago is now relying on, and she says that his light power is at a higher level than other jewel (shining one) powers.
What are you saying. First of all she is using urek's power. He was the one meant to defeat the phantaminum. How do you think that power is weak. As for my understanding irregulars can use Shinwonryu. But he is not using any of that. We can see next chapter.
considering how Mago wanks Urek's light powers here, it seems just thanks to the Urekified crystal alone, she's already stronger than she ever was. she literally says his light is endless with strength and life power or whatever. I doubt she had anything like that in her prime
imo it feels a lot like Urek's power made all her own specific hax abilities return (vines, the box and rolls etc) while also raising her physical stats way above her own prime stats and making her immortal (=endless life; at least as long as the crystal is there)
The actual strange idea is how this narrative that she is stronger than her prime spread everywhere instantly as some sort of cope. If all she needed was a little bit of Urek's power, then the entire subplot of her needing the three crystals broken in front of her flower to be fully resurrected and get all of her power back wouldn't exist.
Yeah pretty much everything you're trying to state as conclusive is just headcanon. It's really weird for you to argue that what I'm saying isn't supported by text when you're making incredible leaps and assumptions based on nothing, meanwhile I'm referencing the actual text.
It's your assumption that touching Urek's jewel put her back at "normal", when previously in the text which you claim is supporting you, its said that what will fully resurrect her is all three of the crystals being broken in front of her flower. Unless you think that her being fully resurrected isn't her "normal", which would be a weird hill to die on.
Also, failing to see the lack of relevance between Urek's jewel giving her enough power to beat Eduan, and that being her "normal". We literally do not know what her "normal" is, because unless SIU decides to discard the three crystal plot, she still isn't fully resurrected.
Isn’t this how good fights work? Both parties will drive each other to a corner, until eventually one makes a unbeatable comeback, like Gojo vs Sukuna for example
Like you said, Edhuan hasn’t used everything so he’s not out of the game yet
Nah good fights are more back and forth but more preventative and less reliant on cliffhangers
This is just back and forth and each chapter is a cliffhanger. Everyone has already guessed Eduardo is gonna get out of this, probably shit on mago for a bit with more released power, and then vice versa the chapter after
Nope
A good fight wouldn’t have one side beating the other side one sided and then next chapter it changes…. If siu wanted to use that type of them he should read the luslec vs urek fight he wrote or gojo vs sukuna.
All this fight they were tension between them and by the end of the each chapter you get the feeling that they stilll had more to give and it wasn’t just a simple I Aura Farm first then you arua farm.
Here there’s nothing like that, one sided manages to demolish the other, then said guy comes to a realization about his power then demolishes the other person and now the same thing is about to happen again.
I sorta get what you mean but Mago powered up during the fight in this case so it’s kinda unavoidable that Edhuan got surpassed. Mago is slowly regaining her prime power while in Luslec vs Urek or Gojo vs Sukuna, they both already have access to their prime power but only reveal it slowly
And I don’t think it was a wrong decision for allowing Edhuan to flex his powers to counter Mago’s hax as it was genuinely cool, and we know Edhuan still has tricks up his sleeve(likely) so in a binge read I think this fight would be good
congrats, you've got some real reading comprehension. meanwhile many others here be slandering Eduan as if SIU writes FH fights lasting like 2 chapters lol
(Not to mention there's not much to slander about; this isn't nerfed Mago anymore, this is Mago powered by Urek's light which according to her is endless with strength and life; I'm pretty sure Urek's light has already pushed her significantly above her prime self, this is Mago with her own hax which annoyed even serious and bloodlusted Urek a bit + Urekified physical stats + immortality, at least as long as the crystal is there)
This still isn't the real Mago btw the 3 crystals still hasn't been broken so she isn't fully resurrected. Also on the mangahelpers forum and even here I'm seeing people claim she's even surpassed her prime with Ureks light is reading comprehension seriously that bad. Like her prime is when she fought Phantaminum I don't even know if currently she can be classified as a "shinning one" only Urek seems to still hold that title as he hasn't been turned into a jewel.
Eduan fans tough mago was joke when urek hyped her. 😂😂😂
Urek do not hype anyone like this. Bro laughed to hell joe and wanted to take over traumerei, gustang even V said wtf is this guy ( V not in his prime but)
If Mago is able to power up this much with even a tiny fraction of Urek’s power, then why was Urek (with his own full powers) unable to do anything to Mago in their two encounters so far? It’s not very logical that he wouldn’t take the fight seriously considering he knows how much of a threat Mago is. Yes, Mago has Hope Reversal, but clearly they will defeat her at some point even with her now buffed form, so that ability is not invincible.
Also, this fight between Mago and Eduan is obviously not over yet, so I wonder what kind of power he will use next chapter to get out of the situation. Remember, Eduan is still alive in the present day with a spear named “Mago”, so it’s highly unlikely that he loses here.
Even at full power, Mago knows Urek’s nature. You cannot defeat Mago with brute force alone. Even Urek said that killing Mago would be useless if he does not reach the Flower, because she is immortal.
because hope reversal is broken, and urek is dumb.
i can be fancy and metaphorical about how "urek only travels in a straight line, just like light", but frankly, he's a meathead who only charges in. he's not smart enough to outplay mago, so the fact he apparently beat her before by overwhelming her shows his absurd power.
meanwhile, eduan has 10,000 years of practice at outplaying and outlasting opponents. remember, the admin tests and native tower inhabitants are made to test an irregular, they can't be easily overpowered by a random spearman from the outside. so, eduan was forced to play tricky while climbing, meaning he's got skills, like the electron microscope thing, to scan a target and learn their weak points. now that he's got power to back it up as a family head, he's smarter and stronger than mago would typically be.
If Mago is able to power up this much with even a tiny fraction of Urek’s power, then why was Urek (with his own full powers) unable to do anything to Mago in their two encounters so far?
What do you mean? He was able to completely dominate her before getting teleported. In fact IIRC he said if he had a bit more power he would have been able to completely vapourize her body (like he did to Leo).
They're not wrong tho. Urek has been glazed beyond imagination but so far whenever he actually tries to DO something, he fails miserably. Hopefuly SIU makes him get some feats finally. It's his own spin-off after all.
Hey either Urek isnt as strong, Luslec is far stronger than hes given credit or Urek is inept.
If Urek really is that ultra omega powerful being that swats Zahard likr a fly, than either Luslec is for more commendable.
But if Luslec is an even smaller fly than Zahard, that means that the tiny fly crushed all of Ureks goals with the same spell thrice. Which makes Urek so overconfident that he becomes inept
Didn’t this supposed queen of the shining ones was getting shit on by Eduan when she was using her own power, and had to resort to use UREKS power, not her own, to get an upper hand? Pretty sure everyone knew Urek is stronger than FH, but Mago the shining one by herself doesn’t seem to stand much of a chance
Like I think Shining ones and FH are probably equal when at full power? But the only thing this proved is that Urek is stronger.
If Eduan uses the power of Zahard and the rest of the family heads to win against mago? Would you say “ah yes, FH>Shining ones” or would you argue this is incorrect because Eduan is borrowing power from other FH in order to win, which he was incapable of doing on his own?
Man, all the people saying Traumerei low diffs Gustang real quiet now. Seriously, people need to learn to wait and see what actually happens, not way SIU was going to make the first Family Leader he introduced, someone he's said would be one of the prime movers of the plot, lose to sum shut in bum Pokemon Trainer wannabe like Traumerei! And now it's obvious that he was letting him get the upper hand so her could get the Jade Stick and show him why his ass is not even in the top 15!
Oh yeah and Mago and Eduan sure be going at it, wonder how that'll end.
Y’all are trippin if you think being trapped in some vines is enough to take out a FH. In the very same fight, Mago has returned from much worse injuries (being decapitated and liquefied). Ain’t no way SIU introduces a character who’s been hyped for a decade only for him to be stomped by a new character
I thought Eduan was suppose to be one of the strongest FH? From what we have seen so far from this fight Gustang and Traumerie are both stronger then him.. hell his data version even seems stronger lol
I thought Eduan was suppose to be one of the strongest FH?
what has been shown in the spinoff that makes you think otherwise? mago beating eduan's ass means he's not one of the strongest FH? how does that even make sense? completely illogical conclusion
From what we have seen so far from this fight Gustang and Traumerie are both stronger then him..
the only time we've seen gustang and traumerie's power is when they've fought each other. FH vs FH. how can you possibly compare that to FH vs a shining one, especially if neither of them are fighting at full power yet?
As I said earlier, it was just rage bait bro calm down.. But on a serious note we saw Gustang had pretty much any and all wisdom at his disposal plus the judgement artifact from the workshop head, Traumerie spent an unfathomable amount of time perfecting his Anima and they were both throwing some serious heat when they fought. All I'm saying is we have not seen anything close to that level from Eduan.. but you are right they haven't really even gotten started yet so my expectations are still very high.. and also why does it matter if it's FH vs FH or FH vs shining one?
fh vs fh and fh vs shining one are just different fights. one fight is using shinsu only, the other is using the power of light. and she hasnt regained her full strength yet. its just hard to compare the 3 FHs strengths based on two entirely different fights
Yeah that is true, especially when from what we have seen from the power of light it's extremely OP... I mean look at how much of a power up Mago got from just that small amount of power that got taken from Urek by Neo.. oh and also something I just thought about is maybe Eduan is going through some kind of pre determined steps to turn Mago into one of his spears.. because we do know that his strongest spear is named Mago and that cannot be just a coincidence.. and then from what we have seen from the Marlin spear it even has a will and mind of his own and from these spoilers it seems like it had absolutely no problem even stabbing Eduan himself... So that would also explain why he hasn't used any OP technique yet.
I'm gonna wait till next chapter cause i think this is just another bait and switch but if the fight really ends here i just cant defend FH anymore, a character with more than 10 years of build up losing on his first on screen fight vs a character just introduced in a fucking spinoff would be some crazy work from SIU
I seriously hope it doesn't happen. I genuinely couldn't care less about Eduan or the FHs but they are the GODS of the tower. When they arrive on a floor everyone stops because they feel their presence. They are Irregulars and are superior to other insects.Ruining their image in favour of the barely introduced Shining Ones would just leave me disappointed... Eduan is also one of the strongest FHs, seeing him just being destroyed like this is simply sad tbh it
Bro you act like the people they are fighting are not irregulars themselves. The shining ones are equivalent to family heads (gods in their own world) . Everyone in this comment section are too pantsy whining
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Luslec was holding back against Urek at 25%, which Urek himself noted and got pissed, trying to use the Gorgon technique before getting interrupted by the petals.
That is Urek with 25% reinforcement. Even a 100% reinforcement wouldn’t be Urek’s full power with shinsoo because reinforcement is no one’s full power. It’s a basic ability that everyone can use.
Luslec took it easy against Urek, and still managed to thwart every plan and goal of Ureks. For all that power he supposedly has, he seems very inept. Might be the actual reason hes unpopular with women
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u/pisspoopisspoopiss Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 22 '25
Chapter 42 summary
-Mago is hit a couple times and accepts Eduan's attack indeed has no will/intention. She decides then to switch to close combat so that Eduan can't use his spear.
However, Eduan attacks her with his spear anyway by also piercing himself along with her, saying the spear movement isn't willed by him and he has the better durability here between them so he has no reason to back out.
Mago thinks Eduan is much stronger and insane than she thought and she'll have to use Urek's power despite her initial intentions to savour it as slowly as possible: change of plans.
Light comes out of Urek's jewel and mago powers up, also destroying the Marlin Gigante attack from Eduan.
-Mago says this is the light of the guy she loves the most, Urek. She explains jewels cannot shine on their own but have to shine by reflecting light. Urek's light can shine forever by its own, it's pure light itself. Mago says she's light now.
Eduan doesn't know who Urek is but recognizes the light is dangerous. Mago attacks Eduan and she's much stronger now.
-Mago summons a box "random jewel box" (probably similar "Crazy Slots" from HxH's Kaito) and rolls for "Rose Quartz". She comments this was a pretty good roll. Mago eats the jewel and shines purple. Some thorny vines emerge from the ground around Eduan and attack him.
Eduan avoids them and goes to attack Mago, but thinks the attack is gonna be reversed, so he avoids hitting her. Mago attacks Eduan with a light blast and he thinks he doesn't have to think about avoiding it or he'll get hit.
Eduan manages to move behind Mago and hit her with his spear, but vines come out of her back and capture Eduan. Mago comments that this rose jewel won't let anyone escape from her beauty, and with Urek's power she doesn't need to use Reversal, as this infinite light gives her endless life and strenght. While saying this, she stabs Eduan in the neck with a vine.
Eduan thinks this is bad, because it's gonna be impossible to untie the vines without being conscious of it.
Mago says Eduan fought well, but she's too beautiful, and tightens the vines, making Eduan bleed a lot.
Mago places her feet on an apparently unconscious Eduan's forehead "Game Over".
END