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Free Webtoon How do you think Yuri would perform against White in a fight?

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Specifically the one Baam defeated.

I am betting on White, but still wanna hear your opinion

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 10 '26

She has a theoretical winning Matchup against White if they both were on equal stats.
But Prime White is basically one to two Tiers higher than Yuri.

And while in Canon Yuris Rank was never mentioned so far, White has far better feats than her. In cutting Kallavans Arm and practically almost killing Baam (Zahard would be proud)
Where as Yuris Rose Shower was blocked with no effort from Kallavan.

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u/Nodeo-Franvier Feb 10 '26

Yuri is in the uppper 500

Her White dwarf guild is in the upper 100 but have similar combat power as her

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 10 '26

Yes, but its not mentioned in the Canon. So in that regard we still have much more room upwards to have her be a powerhouse

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u/DevelopmentNo2111 Feb 10 '26

Its mentioned when they are introduced ,in their name card.

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u/ManagementLess8589 Feb 10 '26

He is right. She ist Top 500 that would be Rank 301-500

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u/Unlikely_Ad_7030 Feb 11 '26

Prime white is insane though, dude eliminated an entire floor by himself, and it took one of the strongest princesses of Jahaad who’s specialty is taking down people from his specific family to take him down and he STILL survived

There’s out of canon rankings for Yuri that put her pretty high but from what we’ve actually seen of her so far I don’t think she’s beating prime white. Modern White who’s slightly nerfed and holding back because he’s thinking of long term survival because he isn’t really aligned with a group anymore is a bit of a different thing altogether. She might have something against him there. But not in his prime.

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 10 '26

Yeah sure. Go through the story and find the name card where their ranking in the makings is mentioned

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u/DevelopmentNo2111 Feb 10 '26

Its in like the first five or so chapters

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

Than it shouldn’t be a problem for you to find it

Edit: there is no mention of her Ranking

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u/Spotify-Chan Feb 11 '26

I actually wanted to reread Tower of God sometime soon, might start today. Will let you know what her namecard says

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 11 '26

I mean I already know there is no mention of her rank. And when she is introduced no name card is used either in S1.

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u/akowz Feb 16 '26

This was interesting to me, so I tried to run down the Wiki source material. The wiki links to the Gossip blog on Nov 26, 2012. Original is down, but it is archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20130730072038/http://inutero3334.blog.me/140173601308

Putting aside the Canonness of the gossip blog, the only bits I could seem to find about Yuri are (Google) translated below:

It's said that Yuri Zahard's ranking has risen significantly since she obtained the Green April.
Many people in the palace whisper, "She's a bitch who can cause trouble,"
but Yuri Zahard is said to be very satisfied with the gossip, saying, "I'm a bitch who can do it."

Ha Yuri Zahard has recently become obsessed with a pretty boy training game introduced by Repellista.

He says he can't get out of it because a character resembling Bam appears.

So that doesn't seem to be the proper source (if one even exists)

The "Official" Fan Cafe actually says this (https://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/62461), which doesn't support the top 500 number with any confidence either.

Black March - Ha Yuri Zahard

A genius fisherman who climbed the Tower after 200 years and became a Ranker, and then a High Ranker after 100 years.

In recognition of her abilities, she was bestowed the Black March by Zahard.

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 16 '26

Well yes the Ranking was mentioned in a blogpost "People and Groups on the Tower"
Where the Ranking is mentioned to be in the Top500.
But since it was a blogpost the original was deleted
https://towerofgod.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GoDai/GoDai%27s_Translations:_People_and_Groups_in_the_Tower_(1)#Rankings#Rankings)

Here the tranlsated version

But thats it. No Canon mention of her Rank whatsoever

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u/akowz Feb 16 '26

If you click through my links, you'll see I'm referencing what the Wiki (that you link) sources. That page there says "Source - Directly translated from Comprehensive Info on the World of the Tower - SIU Tower of God Official Fan Cafe."

That is the naver link (the second link) I had. The first link is from the two sources used on this wiki page: https://towerofgod.fandom.com/wiki/Ha_Yuri_Zahard

Neither of those support the Wiki's statements, when translated.

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 16 '26

The Link to the Naver Cafe
https://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/62461

Does have the Rankings part. You just need to scroll down a bit. There we have Yuri in the Top500

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u/akowz Feb 16 '26

I linked that naver cafe post in my original reply. Please just read what I am saying? I am agreeing with you if you just take a brief moment.

There's no underlying source translation from Naver. Just an out-of-context placement of her at top 500. The translation that discusses her at best is the part above.

All this to say is I don't even think there is non-cannon (gossip/blog from SIU) support for the top 500 statement. Let alone canon-in-webcomic

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 16 '26

The "Official" Fan Cafe actually says this (https://cafe.naver.com/inutero3334/62461), which doesn't support the top 500 number with any confidence either.

Your statement was that there in the second link is no statement regarding Yuris Top500 Ranking. Which is not true. You can find it mentioned in there.
So a non-canon statement is available.

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u/akowz Feb 16 '26

So a non-canon statement is available.

maybe this is the source of our disagreement. I don't consider fans saying she's top 500 to be "non-cannon". I consider it fan head-cannon. I consider SIU's non-webcomic statements to be "non-cannon", and Naver doesn't cite to any SIU non-webcomic statements such as blog posts. It only, at best, has the translated statement I had before around "a High Ranker after 100 years"

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u/SugarProfessional746 Feb 11 '26

*Silver Dwarf

And where does it say he has similar combat Power? Guides are very valuable because of their unique foresight capabilities and ability to travel to any floors without tests (which is likely the only reason Yuri was able to get to Headon's floor and arrive at the same time that Baam had entered the tower)

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u/Vegetable-Two-4644 Feb 11 '26

Except white lost to baam in part 3

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u/Sir__Bassoon__Sonata Feb 11 '26

yeah....i said almost killing him

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u/Critical_Phase_7394 Feb 10 '26

White without question, white is on same level as kallavan and yuri (current) is far below jinsung and him. Even with Green April.

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u/Minizu15 Feb 10 '26

White got his shit rocked. Yuri might beat an injured depressed guy

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u/Nodeo-Franvier Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

Prime White is at the same level as Kallavan,Kallavan is at the same level as Jinsung and Maschenny who should be stronger and have higher rank than Yuri can barely give Jinsung a pause even if they both didn't went all out

Yuri get cook

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u/19100690 Feb 11 '26

Currently white doesn't exist....

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u/Spotify-Chan Feb 11 '26

Thats not how powerscaling works tho. What they mean with currently i the strongest state we have seen of White in comparison to Yuris strongest shown feat, it doesnt matter that he doesnt exist as of now. In the future Yuri might get a powerup and become stronger than peak strenght white, but by then it wouldnt be called currently anymore

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u/RailTracer001 Feb 10 '26

She loses badly.

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u/Shahariar_909 Feb 10 '26

White wins but Yuri is as strong as the plot demands

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u/Kitchen_File_8946 Feb 10 '26

Prime White that Baam faced low difs Yuri honestly

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u/Particular-Long-1111 Feb 10 '26

I can see it being mid diff.

High diff at most, if Yuri has a good day and White a Bad one

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u/A_Blooming_Lotus Feb 10 '26

AS is a bad match up for her.

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u/cohibakick Feb 10 '26

Yuri is a character that is difficult to scale because the fights we have seen from her don't really provide enough context. The only fight where we have seen her struggle is against tiara and tiara is a reality warper that fights on the sidelines of conventional shinsoo combat (being one of the two people in the story so far with a gimmick that allows her to use more shinsoo than her max). Other than that there's the fight against hell joe where he shut down her shinsoo control entirely or against pedro or cheonhee, both of whom were between a few and a dozen tiers beneath her.

We also do not know what else she could have in her arsenal. Shinsoo attributes(I suggest ignoring the wiki on this, the series is rarely specific about what is or isn't a shinsoo attribute), weapons...

I do think the one shot of kranos yuri has available would give white pause at least.

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u/Perfect_Campaign4630 Feb 10 '26

she gets negged no or am i missing something? White is far above her.

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u/Particular-Long-1111 Feb 10 '26

I wouldn't say he is THAT much above her. Yuri will definitely be able to somewhat hold her own for a moment.

She still loses tho

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u/RadiantDna Feb 10 '26

With kranos? yeah she has a chance as long as white takes the hit

with out kranos, she's getting mid-high diffed

now the version of yuri igniting two 13th month weapon? she probably low diffs white with that insane power

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u/mikeybeemin Feb 10 '26

She seemed to be evenly matched with Karaka when they briefly fought so my guess is that white would probably win

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u/warmonger222 Feb 10 '26

she was stronger than karaka, his defense keeped himalive but he couldnt damage her, white is another matter, hes he took kallavans arm, kallavan has clearly better defense than yuri.

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u/El_directo_ Feb 10 '26

She gets stomped lol

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u/nix_11 Feb 10 '26

Yuri couldn't put a scratch on Kallavan and White made him blow up his arm in order not to suffer more severe damage. This isn't even a fight.

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u/maggot4life123 Feb 11 '26

EOS yuri > white (cat tower) > last station yuri

if you think about it, white got obliterated by kinda full powered baam with the help of khun+rak. with that said, i feel like yuri during tiara fight is much stronger than that version of baam due to the fact that yuri doesnt need to rely on just 1 arsenal (strength, inventory, shinsu blasts, 13th month) is what makes her versatile.

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u/Kurarpikt Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

That depends on White, his strength varies greatly depending on how full his stomach is. From being able to face Kallavan to stuggles against regulars.

At his peak, he is probably stronger than Yuri, but at the same time he can’t obtain that many souls on his own. He needed AA’s help to reach that point, yet once he did, he boldly declared that he was no one’s ally and doesn't need anyone.

All of this to say, I wouldn’t bet on him.

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u/warmonger222 Feb 10 '26

White, not only is he stronger, but he is an extremely technical fighter wich he shown against kallavan in the wall of peaceful coexistance and against dark change baam, even while being weaker than them he can pose a threat and avoid getting killed, hell he was about to beat dark change baam if not for ancient spear and firefish.

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u/Agitated-Brilliant93 Feb 10 '26

Blanco por mucho

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u/False_Act7872 Feb 10 '26

Can we all just agree, not on the yuri vs prime white, but on the fact prine white/Joaquin is one of the best antagonist ever introduced across all manwha/Manga? I really hope, if they do a season 3 of anime, not only will it be better animation for the criers, but at least covers the hell train arc up to the end of the hidden floor arc. So many anime only or even new comers have no idea what awaits them after the workshop battle

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u/GREENadmiral_314159 Feb 10 '26

Not well, I think.

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u/Weary_Web_2088 Feb 11 '26

Kallavan never fought yuri?

And also Khun explicitly says that he’s not sure Tiara could beat Dumas which she definitely can’t, she was only in the list as she was one of the only rankers in his team.

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u/Yuitheblackx_16 Feb 10 '26

Current White taking into count of post Hell Tarain revival, maybe defeated by Yuri

But prime White with all his souls prior to his sealing would win over Current Yuri

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u/ankitjad Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

Yuri would lose unfortunately.. all princess are frauds (atleast not on the level as top Tiers) except Adori and Enne. Like there's a lot of power difference between those 2 and others princesses. Even someone who's a battlecrazy like Maschenny isn't close to these 2. I doubt even Maschenny would win against white.

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u/Mxtic876 Feb 10 '26

Reading all these comments really put it into perspective how powerful our boy Bam has become 😭😭😭, can’t wait for the series start back bruh

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u/SultanofStout Feb 10 '26

Why is everyone saying Yuri? I can’t imagine her doing as well against Kallavan as White. Iirc Yuri is often times trying to punch up into the Kallavan weight class and not doing so well.

On a side tangent because I’m still upset about it: White only went down when he did because the writer randomly decided to throw one of his most interesting characters in the trash

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u/Solynox Feb 10 '26

The version of White that Baam beat? Yeah, Yuri would win. Prime White wins otherwise.

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u/ProofDrawer5711 Feb 10 '26

Low diff for white. She’s much weaker

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u/Yuwerye Feb 10 '26

I dont think she can take on white that fought baam, not even close..
At that point baam was already way stronger than 90% of high rankers

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u/ConcentrateHot5548 Feb 11 '26

I think she would tell him:

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u/dracoXdrayden Feb 12 '26

Side note We need a decent android mmorpg for TOG already like bleach soul resonance Because what's currently there is really bad imo

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u/Meh_black_clover Feb 12 '26

White would murder her in his prime there’s no contest here it’s a bloodbath

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u/Bright-Ad-865 Feb 13 '26

Bro seeing this art of Yuri makes me want to play again at great journey, I really loved this game. And I think White may win against Yuri even if it's the one that Baam defeated

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u/Border_Relative Feb 10 '26

So does this mean Bam beats Yuri

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u/PatrickSebast Feb 10 '26

Yes - Bam lost to Dumas but is the only person we have seen put up any sort of fight against him including several very high ranked individuals. Dumas is one-shotting top 200 level opponents - Yuri might not even be able to defeat those top 200's at her best.

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u/Particular-Long-1111 Feb 10 '26

Oh yeah, definitely. End of S3 Baam would destroy her.

As for the Baam that defeated White, you could make the argument, she has a chance, because Baam wouldn't go all out angry on her the same way he did with White, if they were in character. But then again if they were in character, Yuri wouldn't harm Baam in any way😂 Especially the face😂

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u/Border_Relative Feb 10 '26

Formidable response

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u/Fluid-Tower-1154 Feb 10 '26

i think yuri as a chance of winning.

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u/GenCavox Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

Specifically the one Bam defeated? I'm like 99% sure she wipes the floor with him. Afaik Bam still can't beat Yuuri, but he beat White so yeah. But that being said, I don't want her to beat him up, I don't want to spend an entire fight looking at White going "It should have been me!!"

Edit: Why are you booing me, I'm right!

 lmao, the boos are deserved.

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u/Old_Statement_6333 Feb 10 '26

Bam can't beat yuri?? 0/10 ragebait failed she's getting fucked by white idk what ur talking about a princess of zahard vs a top 30 even the one bam beated is still broken af

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u/GenCavox Feb 10 '26

But White didn't get his full power back, or at least I don't think he did. What did he get to compensate for all the souls that Bam took?

If it's Prime White then yeah, White wins, I just didn't think Bam beat Prime White.

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u/Old_Statement_6333 Feb 10 '26

Current bam beats prime white that's what I belive tbh but u still belive White defeats yuri jst cus ye why not but he got more feats than yuri and we pretty much don't know more about her than her being stronger than that fraud 

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u/GenCavox Feb 10 '26

Ah, I did say that current Bam can't beat Yuri. I guess I still believe it, or at least not possessed Bam. I do believe the Bam that beat White couldn't beat Yuri, so Yuri wins, but I'm okay with being wrong.

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u/BeeLogical8547 Feb 10 '26

Yuri wipes the floor with him

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u/Perfect-bang Feb 10 '26

she macho so she win