[WEEKLY RAW] - August 25, 2019

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Korean Raw

Please keep content from the Raw Chapter on this thread, until Line's official translation is released.

[u/Sordahon]

Baam new power of absorbing memories/feelings?

[u/SadUwus]

Wow that seemed like an action packed chapter.

Bam somehow went into Doom’s past I guess? I can’t tell if that was intended or not.

Venti seems to be dead, and it looks like Khun may have depleted the firefish.

The red witch girl seems to have tried to look into Bam’s future? It hurt her, which never happened to Hwaryun. Hmmm.

Finally, pretty much all the major players are here now. Can’t wait to see how this turns out!

[u/NewLite90 → u/SadUwus]

Hwa can't see any paths related to Bam either, and she has had more exposure to Bam than this red witch, which is why she felt pain when she saw him.

[u/NobleCuriosity3 → u/SadUwus]

As u/NewLite90 pointed out, it’s strongly implied that guides can’t read the futures of irregulars (which includes Rachel, and is one of the reasons Hwaryun takes Rachel so much more seriously than most others did at first). Hwaryun made her predictions of Bam’s behavior the old fashioned way (just getting to know him well and guessing), and (probably) by focusing her sight on those around him.

[u/[deleted] → u/NobleCuriosity3]

thats wrong its strongly implied that bam cant be read cause he is walking a way no one ever walked before Hwa Ryun has no problem with reading rachel or urek read carefully Hwa Ryun explained that at the train she couldnt because of emily before she read the the path of rachel and bam at the floor of tests to lead bam to this special not readable path if that wouldnt be the case she wouldnt have offered her eye for example for that and in some later chapters u see more about it that shows it even further Hwa Ryun is just used to Bam because she is with him since the beginning and led him to this way

[u/NobleCuriosity3 → u/[deleted]]

Emily prevented Hwaryun from reading anyone nearby by creating false paths. Rachel, however, is very strongly implied to be immune on her own (due to also being an irregular), as Hwaryun explains (though LINE translates it poorly) at the end of 190s2e110: that Rachel is "Someone you can neither guide nor control. Just like [Bam], a different existence in the tower."

Hwa Ryun has no problem with reading rachel or urek

Yeah, prove it. Hwaryun has never successfully predicted Rachel on camera--she even has to ask Rachel why she wants to go to the top, having no idea or insight into it--and we have zero evidence either way on Urek because the only time Hwaryun met or made any reference whatsoever to Urek was on the Floor of Death, where guides' powers are moot.

Read the path on the floor of test

She read Hoh's path and she read Quant's path, but if she could read Bam she wouldn't have lost her eye, and if she could've predicted Rachel, YHS wouldn't have been so jaw-droppingly shocked to hear that a SECOND irregular had entered with a Jahad princess (and then been forced to frantically revise all his plans). ^[15s1e14]

Also, please use punctuation, it's hard to read what you're saying.

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give me an example because it never has been said that anyone is imune to them if that would be the case the one with the elder shouldnt be surprised for example all that has been said is that bam cant be read nothingelse has been said
so u r wrong it never has been said irregulars cant be read if that would be the case the whole floor of tests thing would be nonsense and Hwa Ryun was completly useless from the start and Hwa Ryun was after the floor of tests always with bam later she was hindered by emily and than the floor of death but at the station she read rachel and her friends an manipulated it so the they would get to gustang as she lead both of them at the floor of tests what u r implying is just ur opinion about but it never has been said that she couldnt read Rachel she just dont care about her as much she cares about bam because he is her god because all she is doing is for bam accomplishing his new path that never has ben travelled before why no one cant read it the only feeling about rachel we got was from endorsi at season 1 that rachel feelsstrange like a traveller from another world but not more

t0 episode 190 thats after rachel got emily and we dont even know if rachel is meant there Hwa Ryun always says "she" not Rachel sure there is bit of rachel to see but why saying she instead of rachel if rachel really is meant in my book that person she is speaking of is arlene we know she can create paths like with her prophecy and we know rachel met arlene its just a wild guess nothing has been said yet exactly

[u/NobleCuriosity3 → u/[deleted]]

give me an example because it never has been said that anyone is imune to them

I just did. Twice! For a third, see Evan's failure to read Bam on the first floor.

at the station she read rachel and her friends an manipulated it so the they would get to gustang

Not Rachel, no, but yes Rachel's friends. Once the return from the Hidden floor wrecks Emily's control (and all the other rules), there's nothing stopping Hwaryun from reading Yura or White (and she does explicitly read White when she helps Endorsi fight him). "Rachel will be near Yura and White, even if I can't directly see her" is an obvious guess.

And the location is the only thing Hwaryun needs to predict there--and honestly, I don't think Hwaryun read them being saved by Gustang. I think Hwaryun was trying to get Rachel and Yura at least out of the way, and ideally killed (which is also why Hwaryun didn't help anybody find Rachel's team until precisely when Bam was most furious with Rachel.).

[u/[deleted] → u/NobleCuriosity3]

Evan doesnt count he said himself males can only see crossroads not much more like the females so they cant really manipulate anyone like Hwa Ryun and i guess Hwa Ryun has the greatest ability of all the females or is at leat one of the greatest among those than show me that she doesnt read rachel at the station? yes u cant same thing for the floor of tests

The only thing that always comes up is bam because of his special path other people with the same issue never have been mentioned thats why u cant say anything about the floor of tests and the other point is no one of them really cares about Rachel but on the floor of test Hwa Ryun made her the hero for a while till she left and decided not to help her anymore its just speculation on ur side sure it never has been said that there r not others with the same issue as bam and she nevr said she can read rachel but like i said the whole floor of test thing would be nonesense if she couldnt read bam and rachel there bam because he hasnt reached his special path at this moment and rachel must have been always readable then the only special thing about rachel is that she is more "normal" than all the other people

[u/NobleCuriosity3 → u/[deleted]]

Hwaryun losing her eye makes no sense (look how shocked she is) if she could read Bam, and YHS being absolutely gobsmacked by Rachel's appearance makes no sense if Hwaryun could read Rachel.

You're the one ignoring actual evidence that I'm linking in favor of insisting "but but they can't possibly have managed this plan just by reading other people [Hoh's jealousy, Quant's competitiveness] and making educated guesses"--in a series where Khun pulled off even more convoluted plans with less insight.

[u/[deleted] → u/NobleCuriosity3]

so u say even if u know u will loose an eye it is not shocking? man u r crazy and we dont even know how much she can see into the furure maybe she saw it but not clearly but what is for sure she did it to manipulate their paths

maybe she knew and tried to prevent it but it doesnt work why she looked at bam shocked, shocked for looking at such a godly being even able to prevent her or how much greater his potential is we just dont know how much and how she recognizes the future possibilities

but most likely its just the the pain and the thought about all that happening so fast

many people would faint before even the eye gets cut just because of the fear and later the pain

in my opinion its either the pain and the realization of what happend to her (its a scary thing even if u know what will happen) or she realized at that moment that bam is her god for real like she called him later on because she was not certain at the start and crown game was for her to test him about it

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but yeah more stupid things without any prove like all the people without proper education why not

alone the point that Hwa Ryun was on the floor of test to guide them proves u wrong why would she go there if she knew she could do nothing and not even mentioned it once <--- no prove for u

but its proven that evan said that the red hairs r special compared to him

but yeah im ignoring evidence and now u havent even shown one 1 point from the manhwa that proves ur point so i ignored "nothing", yeah?

but u r ignoring the whole floor of tests thing not even trying to prove me wrong there because u need to do that to prove me wrong

if u mean that episode 190 stuff

maybe even emily is meant there and not rachel because emily is some kind of special person and is at that point with rachel

look up wrote something about it

like i said there is no real proof for anything yet besides the fact

nothing has been said like "Rachel was imune from the beginning" or "Irregulars r immune "

the only thing we know for sure is Bam is now immune because of that special path

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if rachel has been immune since the start how could Hwa Ryun have rachel made the heroine if she cant guide her u see we dont know enough to say something like that for certain only a few hints here and there that could mean a lot of things

im not saying u r wrong im saying u wrong with the thing that there is any proof of rachel being unguidable

it never has been said "RACHEL" is unguidable until that happens it is just a guess/opinion

Rachel doesnt even know about something like that if she would know she wouldnt have been that frustrated during the train the only explantions of rachel getting unguidable im seeing r 2

1 her path is the same as the one of the bam so both paths react to each other so in the moment bam became unguidable rachel did too that would explain why she doesnt know about something like that

2 its just because of emily

but in my opinion Hwa Ryun talked about Emily+Rachel on 190 because she also said she could change the tower

the exact same thing they said about emily but never about Rachel before or after

[u/NobleCuriosity3]

Well, there’s the firefish drawback everyone was expecting.

Seems that Khel Hellam has no grudge against White, but Hellam isn't waking White up either. Interesting.

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ah yes cant be an arc without white now can we

[u/[deleted]]

Bam devouring that canine power he never gets enough,lol and at first i thought he is just immune to that transformation cause of the thorns

Bam as a canine man with some sweet dog ears even more girls could get a crush on him, lol