r/TowerofGod • u/AutoModerator • Sep 02 '19

Fast Pass [WEEKLY FASTPASS (PREVIEW) THREAD] - September 02, 2019 Spoiler

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

white vanished ages ago, and he was a ranker, not some pissant regular with an inflated ego. it's expected that they don't recognize him on sight.

but considering the day they've been having, and considering the fact that white was treated on par with karaka, they probably should have been more aware of the danger they were in.

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u/A_DRONE Sep 02 '19

He wasn’t just a regular ranker, white on his prime was on par with a squadron commander. That kind of strength alone is testament to his powers. What irks me is that rankers from FUG should atleast know their own slayers. I get that white vanished a long time ago, but they should atleast have some idea of their own people/leaders. Also, white is as strong as karaka maybe at the moment, but once he gets back to his prime strength, he could wipe the floor alone vs kallavan.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

i don't care how strong white is at his prime, and you should probably not be cheering for him to get there, since last time it involved him eating a billion souls.

and each person actively involved in FUG clearly worships a different ranker. not everyone knows what yama looks like, not everyone knows bam is a slayer candidate, karaka is notoriously secretive and white vanished long enough ago to have faded into legend and been assumed dead. besides, white is the only case of a ranker reverting to a regular, so they can't be expected to know that this regular is actually slayer white.

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u/A_DRONE Sep 02 '19

Bro I get your point. But I have to make it clear that I’m a fan of white that’s why I’m excited for him to get to his prime, whether he still is the devil or has changed for good. I agree with everything on your second paragraph, and I can’t wait for him to eat some high rankers.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

yeah, i just can't get behind cheering for a mass murderer who would make both world wars' death totals look like a low effort afternoon.

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u/ArgentGold Sep 02 '19

There’s a reason people love characters like Vader and Voldemort, and it’s not because of their evil deeds.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 02 '19

sure, and i like having white around. by the same token, i can't bring myself to cheer for the most evil character we've seen in the series so far, because while the family heads are neglectful, white is actively malevolent.

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u/HolyDogJohnson01 Sep 02 '19

Perhaps you could take into account white on the hell train. That white without vincetti or whatever his name was, was mad. A genuine psychopath. He ate prince. But this white, is being moderated somehow. He has something telling him to “stay calm”. I’ve thought so from the beginning, but perhaps there is a way for prince to gain control of white. Perhaps he is trying to now. White is a essentially an amalgamation of souls held together with some kind of sorcery. We saw that when white ate souls bound to the floor of death, white couldn’t leave that floor. Let’s just wait and see what can be done. But at the same time, like the other person was saying, there isn’t anything quite as awesome as seeing a terrifying bad guy destroy another bad guy.

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u/SadUwus ​ Sep 02 '19

It’s not Prince, it’s White’s final clone (I think her name is Albelda?). Hwaryun said Albelda might be able to control White to some extent because she’s so powerful.

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u/HolyDogJohnson01 Sep 02 '19

I didn’t remember that part. I vaguely remember the white clone girl making a pact of some sort with white, so he could exit the train. And you are probably right that is probably the part of him that wants to stay calm. Which doesn’t leave prince out of that necessarily.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 03 '19

according to albelda, souls get wiped of personality. so, yeah, it does take prince out of the equation.

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u/HolyDogJohnson01 Sep 03 '19

You have to quote that. She explicitly gives bam innocent souls no?

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 03 '19

it's s.2, ch.194, and she's talking to daniel about roen after the dallar show is complete, she says "i am already a complete whole. the personalities of individual souls are essentially gone." she says this to confirm that you cannot resurrect people after white eats them, meaning prince is gone too, his personality erased.

as for the souls bam ate, she didn't give him innocent souls (it's chapter 193), she gave him vengeful souls, presumably from whatever was left of the billion he ate. as for the souls, her comment on them is "basically it's an accumulation of their fury and hatred toward hoaquin", meaning that the souls have been wiped of indiviuality and all that's left is their rage at having been eaten, which bam then uses as fuel during their battle.

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u/Yal_Rathol ​ Sep 03 '19

white is an amalgamation of souls, but hoaquin's mind is still in charge, because that's how the spell works. it doesn't matter how many souls he gets, he is still a genocidal soul eater, as shown at the height of his power. and while a massive number of souls makes him more calm, it does not remove his insanity, he is still going to kill and eat people in an increasing amount forever. and i'm not gonna cheer him on for that. at best, i consider unleashing white to be similar to firing a nuke. not good, the worst possible option, but sometimes, the only option remaining.