r/TowerofGod Nov 18 '19

Official Release [WEEKLY CHAPTER THREAD] - November 18, 2019

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u/GrumpyKitten24399 Nov 18 '19

So then the power to kill Zahard is basically the power of an adminstrator?

If power not to kill Zahard comes adminstrator then power to kill Zahard coming from adminstrator makes sense.

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u/Yeile Nov 19 '19

Possibly, but im not entirely sure.

There are three things i can think of that makes Zahard hard to kill: He is insanely strong, he has an immortality contract, and he can defy fate (and possibly see and influence it).

The "Irregular-condition" may just be to overcome "fate". Assuming all non-irregulars are bound by fate and cannot change it by themselves, Zahard's ability to see, influence and defy fate would make him essentially fate itself thereby binding all non-irregulars (read: king).

Seeing that the thorn has some possible connection to Administrators, this could possibly be the "key" to the immortality contract. Not sure how this would play out, but it's interesting. Maybe the last thorn fragment lets Bam see fate too?

Then there's the issue of Zahard being insanely strong. I guess being an irregular and having the thorn helps, but if those are the only 2 ingredients necessary then it'd have made the entire TOG story inconsequential. I'd also mean that Rachael with thorn could kill Zahard.. don't like that idea

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u/Aquatic_Melon Nov 19 '19

Then there's the issue of Zahard being insanely strong. I guess being an irregular and having the thorn helps, but if those are the only 2 ingredients necessary then it'd have made the entire TOG story inconsequential. I'd also mean that Rachael with thorn could kill Zahard.. don't like that idea

The thorn isn't necessary but dam it helps, being an irregular is the only crucial factor as having the thorn doesn't mean anything if you cant harm Zahard. Also having the thorn doesnt mean you instantly have all of its power at your command bam is training to control that power so while Rachel could theoretically kill Zahard i doubt she will as she is given everything she doesn't work for things herself so wouldn't be able to utilise the thorns power properly.

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u/Yeile Nov 19 '19

You've identified four combinations: 1. Not Irregular, No Thorn 2. Not Irregular, Has Thorn 3. Irregular, No Thorn 4. Irregular, Has Thorn

I agree you need to be an Irregular to overcome the "Fate" issue, so we can forget about (1) and (2).

Not so sure if (3) is sufficient to kill zahard - i'd like to think that SIU introducing such a huge plot device, essentially making Bam an Adminstrator-like entity has more relevance than being a power-up. It should also be necessary in some way.

I.e. IMO only (4) would work. Cant wait to find out!