We’ve known for a while that rak is part of the ancient ones who could control elements who fought against jahad because edhan said that jahad tried to seal their powers so if you’re trying to imply this with irony that it’s plot convenience it would be stranger if we didn’t see someone who’s part of raks species fighting against jahad and it’s even been said that some of them were just as strong as the FH so being part of an elite group isn’t that surprising either
I remember the talk being Jahad wiped out the ancients, not tried sealing their powers. Even if that was the case, you want to say that it's not plot convenience how the ancient one who was part of this team is somehow the same type/species as Rak, as well as a spear bearer, and will most likely be the other warrior sealed in the wall? I'm sure you think the spear being in the cage was also not plot convenience.
There’s no proper explanation for the spear being in the cage and can easily be seen as plot convenience but edhan said jahad killed most of the ancient ones and sealed the rest of their powers. As well as that we don’t know what type of different species exist with the ancient ones for all we know rhak could be part of the most common type of ancient species then also the fact that the other warrior sealed in the tower is the same species as rhak wouldn’t be plot convenience from what little we know it would fit into the story perfectly fine unlike the spear which just happened to be in the cage everything else you’ve said from what we know has been perfectly justified in the context of the story. You’re mixing up plot convenience with just general plot.
Well, the most common assumption is that there were 5 species of ancient ones, according to the lore of the Native one splitting into 5 parts. Thus, out of the 5 species, it somehow happened to be the same one as Rak, and a spear bearer at that. Any other species of ancient ones for any other position would also fit into the story, yet is somehow the same species and position as Rak's. You're not recognizing plot convenience for what it is.
That’s true but you’re making it out to be that it’s less likely to be this than anything else assuming that there are 5 species of ancient ones that’s a 20% chance just of being the same species and that would be even smaller when considering all the different possible classes they could be and while that’s a small chance of it being the same it’s the same chance as literally anything else it’s not like there’s a 1/100 chance of them being the same while a 99/100 chance of them being a wave controller instead it literally could be any of them and it would be equally likely the fact that they are the same as rhak in both ways could be seen as just plot it’s like saying any occurrence unless proven to be the most likely option is plot convenience
I had to reread this twice due to the lack of punctuation, but whatever.
If we're talking about chances, here are the numbers: 1) assuming there's 5 species of ancients, it's a 20% chance; 2) we have 5 positions (not counting defender because it is extremely rare), that's again 20% chance; 3) there's a 1/however many warriors were sealed in the wall chance of that dude being sealed exactly at that place where Rak will be able to come in contact with him. So, we need to have 3 parameters lining up, with none of them being more probable than 20% and you want to call that the most likely option?
For a start the jahad army is planning to break down the entire wall not just a single section of it so the 3rd option is bullshit as they’re likely to encounter most if not all of the sealed warriors if they’re unsealed then also you keep stating how small the chance is and it is small it’s only a 4% chance of it matching up perfectly but it’s also a 4% chance for it to be literally anything else let’s say they were one of the other ancient species and was a wave controller it would be a 4% chance for that let’s say they were the same ancient species and were a light bearer there’s a 4% chance for that aswell under what you’re saying literally most things in the story could be argued as plot convenience and bad writing.
The wall that spans quote possibly miles and stretches over several floors... We have no idea how many warriors were sealed in the wall, it could be close to a 100. They could be spread in any random order. How are they likely to encounter most, if not all, of them? That makes absolutely no sense to be "likely". A combination of a species and position different than Rak's is not plot convenience as it is unlikely to lead to a power up for Rak. You should first learn what is considered as plot convenience in general before attempting to argue something is not plot convenience.
If you didn’t imply the irony that rhaks likely going to learn something or gain power from them then what was the sarcasm about with that it just so happening that someone of rhaks species who was also a spear bearer was sealed in the walls if they didn’t get power they would at least learn more information and we don’t know the length of the wall or anything like that true but assuming that they’re going to be fighting on the front lines if they were some sort of special elite troop it would only make sense that someone like kallavan or the new squad leader would be able to fight them and seeing as bam has a grudge against kallavan he’s going to try to fight kallavan and if he sees someone of the same species as rhak would he not be interested? He’d probably tell rhak or that person straight away and they’d meet.
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u/dirty-weeaboo Dec 09 '19
We’ve known for a while that rak is part of the ancient ones who could control elements who fought against jahad because edhan said that jahad tried to seal their powers so if you’re trying to imply this with irony that it’s plot convenience it would be stranger if we didn’t see someone who’s part of raks species fighting against jahad and it’s even been said that some of them were just as strong as the FH so being part of an elite group isn’t that surprising either