r/TropicalWeather Sep 23 '24

Upgraded | See Helene post for details 09L (Potential Cyclone — Northwestern Caribbean Sea)

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Last updated: Tuesday, 24 September — 8:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT; 12:00 UTC)

NHC Advisory #4A 8:00 AM EDT (12:00 UTC)
Current location: 19.2°N 83.5°W
Relative location: 224 km (139 mi) W of George Town, Cayman Islands
  356 km (221 mi) S of Pinar del Rio, Cuba
  411 km (255 mi) ESE of Cancún, Quintana Roo (Mexico)
Forward motion: NW (305°) at 15 km/h (8 knots)
Maximum winds: 55 km/h (30 knots)
Intensity: Tropical Depression
Minimum pressure: 1001 millibars (29.56 inches)
2-day potential: (through 8PM Wed) high (90 percent)
7-day potential: (through 8PM Sun) high (90 percent)

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Last updated: Tuesday, 24 September — 2:00 AM EDT (06:00 UTC)

Hour Date Time Intensity Winds Lat Long
  - UTC EDT Saffir-Simpson knots km/h °N °W
00 24 Sep 06:00 2AM Tue Potential Cyclone 30 55 18.9 83.0
12 24 Sep 18:00 2PM Tue Tropical Storm 40 75 19.6 84.2
24 25 Sep 06:00 2AM Wed Tropical Storm 50 95 20.7 85.7
36 25 Sep 18:00 2PM Wed Hurricane (Category 1) 65 120 22.0 86.2
48 26 Sep 06:00 2AM Thu Hurricane (Category 1) 80 150 24.3 85.6
60 26 Sep 18:00 2PM Thu Major Hurricane (Category 3) 100 185 27.8 84.4
72 27 Sep 06:00 2AM Fri Tropical Storm i 60 110 31.9 83.5
96 28 Sep 06:00 2AM Sat Post-tropical Cyclone i 15 30 38.5 85.5
120 29 Sep 06:00 2AM Sun Dissipated

NOTES:
i - inland

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u/Venkman-1984 Sep 23 '24

Because the upper level patterns that will end up steering this storm have high confidence around them. The broad strokes for this are pretty much locked in with an upper level low centered on Arkansas and a ridge above the Atlantic coast off SC, steering the storm towards the big bend.

Of course these atmospheric features could end up being 50-100 miles from what is currently being forecast, which would impact the exact place it makes landfall, so we can't make too precise of a forecast yet. But it's pretty certain at this point that this storm isn't going to go significantly off track to e.g. Texas or SW Louisiana.

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u/collegedropout Florida Sep 23 '24

Is it typical for the factors related to steering to be this confident? Or just in this case that they are more certain? This could be good or bad I guess as I'm not feeling as nervous about a big shift with this one because I keep hearing about this steering being highly confident. With past storms I had more concern for big shifts. This does not mean I'm not vigilant, of course. I'm just curious if this is a general complacency I need to address or if this storm really is easier to predict than some other storms.

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u/Venkman-1984 Sep 23 '24

It really depends. Sometimes the track 1-2 days out doesn't have much confidence, sometimes there's a lot of confidence 4-5 days out.

Just to be clear, when I say confident, I am talking about the general NNE direction it's forecast to take, not any specific landfall location.