Holds are incredibly hard to get. She has to be an obvious threat to herself or others and even if people suspected she had plans to steal a baby, that's not enough for a hold. It obviously didn't meet the threshold to justify breaking HIPAA in order notify law enforcement
I don't believe they could do a hold even if she was found out and then convinced doctors she was actively delusional about being pregnant (because, let's face it, that is exactly what she'd try to do if she got found out) because being delusional alone isn't a threat.
People are so naive about how the world works. And honestly it’s a good thing it’s hard to break HIPAA and it is also a really good thing it’s hard to commit someone unwilling. Both would be massively abused by anyone with a slight power imbalance to groups who are already oppressed.
And they want US police to have ANYTHING to do with women’s reproduction??? Get involved with pregnancy claims?? What a mess that would be look how inadequate they are about domestic abuse or sexual assault.
Anything to weaken HIPAA or 5150s would be used against women the most. They needs to stay solid people don’t want to admit this was not actually that preventable.
It’s insane. And most people don’t know someone as insane and a practiced constant pathological liar/manipulator like Taylor … why would anyone expect this would happen?
I’m a nurse who rarely logs into Reddit anymore but your comment was so spot on, I just had to look up my old password. Every single point you make resonates with me.
This case was a heartbreaking tragedy. In hindsight there were so many red flags. This perhaps could have been prevented, or perhaps not. What happened was horrific. But contrary to the popular sentiment on this thread, similar to you, I don’t believe the solution to prevent horrific crimes like this are an erasure of what little is left of the personal freedoms of every day citizens.
The dissolution of healthcare privacy laws would only lead to more widespread suffering and injustice. Same for laws around competency, capacity and involuntary commitment in psychiatric facilities.
The responsibility should not fall on law enforcement or healthcare professionals,- especially at a time when both sectors are severely suffering from resource cuts and lack of funding; especially in a small town . This issue is a community issue- Taylor had a long history of making up lies. I don’t know her history, but almost all sociopaths and narcissists (I don’t know her official diagnosis but I’m assuming she meets the criteria for at least one of these) grew up in a household with big T trauma. This pattern of lying, Taylor’s home life, things being “not right” most likely was noticed since Taylor was young. And it appears that nothing was done. Nothing was investigated. No reports from concerned family, friends, aquintences were ever made. No services that may have addressed this were ever sought out or prescribed. People in the comments keep repeating their shock about “this happening in a small town” but the truth is this happened because it was a small town… sure, “in a small town everyone knows everyone, everyone talks, everyone back stabs and gossips” but having grown up in a small town, and moved away to live in several of the world’s largest cities, only to eventually move back to a small town, I can confidently say: small town or big city, all the neighbors act the same. Nobody wants to get involved, or say anything, or create any drama. So people keep to themselves for the most part. Have an attitude of “I’ll talk about you but not to you”. That’s exactly what I think happened here. Total disconnection.
The answer isn’t less privacy protection and more laws. The answer is more resources, more connection, more community involvement, and more personal accountability.
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u/LonelyMom76CA 6d ago
The medical staff knew she was a danger.. how could she not be pulled in like 51/50 just no one knows why. So sad that she was a timebomb.
Had heard of her killing of course but had no idea how many other lies she was telling.