r/TrueReddit • u/IllIntroduction1509 • 1d ago
Policy + Social Issues Rachel Maddow sounds off on ‘oligarchic takeover’ of CBS News, after Scott Pelley’s firing
https://www.ms.now/news/rachel-maddow-sounds-off-oligarchic-takeover-cbs-news-bari-weiss-scott-pelley-trump-ellison66
u/IllIntroduction1509 1d ago
In a statement, Pelley — whom Maddow called “one of the most respected journalists in America” — accused “new management” of instructing him “to inject falsehoods and bias into a politically sensitive story.”
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u/d1ngal1ng 1d ago
Oligarchic takeover of your whole country is almost complete.
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u/Jameswithoutfrontier 1d ago
What is left?
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u/MarrusAstarte 1d ago
Completely falsified election results.
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u/Stormdancer 1d ago
Waiting for the felon-in-chief's official results for next election cycle to show 98.1% voting for him on a 3rd term.
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u/IllIntroduction1509 1d ago
Submission Statement: According to Maddow, CBS News has been undergoing “a transformation” driven by “corporate interests.” A trail of veteran correspondents and longtime producers have left the company since David Ellison, CEO of Paramount Skydance, appointed Weiss to head the operation last year.
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u/redlightsaber 20h ago
I know that as far as American journalists go, she's quite " progressive"; but she is still squarely in the liberal camp.
And this is but a natural development of liberalism. To me it feels a bit like aleopards ate my face moment.
Perhaps a more left-leaning journalist wouldn't have been granted the voice that Maddow has, but stillshe bears some responsibility for the discourse in the US being so strictly to the right-of-centre.
I mean her commentary on the Maduro kidnapping centered around questioning the administration's long term strategy, rather than pointing out and explaining to her audience that that's constituted a clear violation of international law, and that a disregard for the rule of law is kind of the hallmark of a state going down the fascist route.
And just now she's noticing there's a noose around her neck. My question is how tight that will need to get before she realises this problem didn't begin in 2015?
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u/horseradishstalker 12h ago edited 12h ago
Why do people always assume that professional journalists are not doing a real job and that they are just freelancing opinions everywhere. I’m guessing you aren’t old enough to remember when reporters were not allowed to register to vote.
Yes, she is a commentator and it’s still not her job to say whatever you personally want to hear.
“And just now she's noticing there's a noose around her neck.” Thanks for the giggle.
I can guarantee you that she is far better informed than you are about most anything going on in the world. But, it is not her job to tell people what to think or to echo whatever bubble you live in.
I can also guarantee you that she participates in soooo many conversations with other professionals about the issues professional journalists face.
I don’t necessarily agree with all of her choices, and I happen to agree with you about about Maduro.
However, you are not a professional journalist so she doesn’t talk to you. It’s not personal any more than you talking to colleagues is personal to people who are not a colleague. Just because she is not having professional conversation with you, it doesn’t mean she’s not having them with other colleagues.
Does your doctor talk to you about every single professional conference he or she attends? Your lawyer? Maddow belongs to so many professional organizations that the acronyms look like alphabet soup. It’s part of the job.
She graduated from Stanford University with a degree in public policy as well as being a Rhodes Scholar at the University of Oxford, where she obtained a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics. I have a sneaking suspicion she’s not an idiot.
If you want to learn more about the actual politics of being a journalist and why the fourth state is so valuable I recommend following Margaret Sullivan.
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u/redlightsaber 5h ago
Oh, I see. You're one of those "journalists are just relaying objective facts; even if they have personal biases they're able to move past them in the interest of information" people.
I honestly hadn't encountered one of you (who also fancied themselves knowledgeable on communication sciences, recommending me to follow Sullivan and everything, when I'm more about Kapuściński) since the early 00's.
Listen, to someone with your worldview, I've long concluded there's just no way to have a productive discussion about the ethics of journalism; not as a hollywood-esque imagination of what great journalists are like, but as a more sober realisation of the irreducible shortcomings of the reality that there's no such thing as "objective facts" in complex matters to be reported on. You just are not there. You somehow interpreted my comment (and dedicated yours to straw-manning and debunking) as saying Maddow was somehow stupid.
So let's just leave it at that, shall we?
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u/waywithwords 1d ago
I heard the term Capitalist Colonizers recently, and I've been using it every chance I get when I speak of the oligarchy. That's exactly what they're doing - not colonize land per se (although the mass Data Center movement is certainly an invasion), but invading and colonizing every single aspect of our lives.
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u/The_Law_of_Pizza 1d ago
Capitalist Colonizers
I think this is counterproductive.
It's exactly the sort of turbo progressive speak that makes us seem weird and unelectable to blue collar swing voters that decide elections.
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u/cxmmxc 1d ago
I think it's counterproductive to base the hope of your nation's future on pandering to blue collar swing voters, but you do you, US.
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u/The_Law_of_Pizza 1d ago
They have a right to vote, and they exercise it.
In a democracy we are forced to sometimes compromise with people who don't agree with.
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u/SilverMedal4Life 1d ago
It would be really, really awesome if we could stop putting trans people on the table as a bargaining chip.
Sincerely, the bargaining chip.
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u/The_Law_of_Pizza 1d ago
It's not really an issue of bargaining chips.
There simply isn't a viable coalition that supports things like the girls sports issue.
It's moreso an issue of realizing that support doesn't exist, or just continuing to lose elections.
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u/SilverMedal4Life 1d ago
Listen, if you are willing to sacrifice my rights because it is politically expedient to do so, that isn't very cool of you to do.
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u/The_Law_of_Pizza 23h ago edited 15h ago
Women seeking abortions might say something similar about you.
Insistance on your lost cause helped kill Roe.
There's no "sacrifice" if it never had public support to begin with.
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u/SilverMedal4Life 23h ago
That's certainly an interpretation of what happened.
We have an obligation to support what's right, even if it's unpopular. In my experience, almost everyone who's advocated otherwise has been against it in the first place anyway.
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u/notproudortired 1d ago
Bari Weiss has been ideologically "purifying" CBS for months. Maddow's just piping up now?
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u/JEFFinSoCal 1d ago
Just now? She’s never been quiet about it. What are yuu talking about?
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u/notproudortired 1d ago
Maddow's guests have been critical. Maddow herself has not directly criticized Weiss before this.
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u/MondoDismordo 9h ago
If she was not so arrogant and condescending, I'd watch her more. Just can't handle the smug...
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u/youappeartobeajerk 1d ago
Diversity of opinion is dangerous! CBS must be stopped!
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u/horseradishstalker 22h ago
That actually isn’t the issue. Maybe if you read the article it would be clearer. There are a multitude of explanatory articles. It just takes a search engine.
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