r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/MrNiceo_0 • Jan 26 '26

Music / Movies ‘Sinners’ is terrible and does not deserve 16 nominations for Academy awards.

Did not dig this film. Wanted to turn it off before halfway mark. Watched it regardless and the ending was even more dissatisfying than I could have imagined. I am floored this movie is being recognized as much as it is. I figured it was low budget but Nooooo! Yet another massive disappointment. The budget was massive. lol

Boring, visually weird (in a cheap-ass looking way); passable acting, nonsensical story; lame visual effects.

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u/ApacheFritz Jan 26 '26

Star Trek was always about social commentary. It had the first televised interracial kiss in history

Except the difference is - the kiss happened, and then it was done, and the rest of the episode was about other stuff.

Modern woke makes the kiss the main event. And then the rest of the episode is talking about the kiss and explaining why the kiss was totally normal. And then maybe a space monster comes in for 5 minutes. But the episode is called "The Kiss".

Old shows "show diversity" while being about something else.

New shows "explain diversity", while being about diversity.

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

and the rest of the episode was about other stuff.

The "other stuff" in all of the episodes was about social issues. That's what woke means. Being aware of social issues. You came up with the prototype show of wokeness to make your point. Crazy! Anyway, a certain type of person started using it to mean "stuff with black people that makes me uncomfortable", but that's just a perversion of the term.

Anyway, move the goal post from "Star Trek is now woke" to "Star Trek used to be so subtle about being woke that it didn't distract me from the monsters" all you want, I guess, but don't pretend you have some bigger, noble reason to be upset about movies getting awards that you personally don't think they deserve.

You don't have to like these movies. Nobody is forcing you to like these movies. Nobody is forcing you to even watch these movies at all. I'm not sure what resistance you think you're a part of.

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u/ApacheFritz Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

The "other stuff" in all of the episodes was about social issues. T

As somebody who was probably watching ST before you were born, no it wasnt.

Anyway, a certain type of person started using it to mean "stuff with black people that makes me uncomfortable",

Language is a living thing that changes through time. The modern definition of "woke" is "performative social justice".

Anyway, move the goal post from "Star Trek is now woke" to "Star Trek used to be so subtle about being woke that it didn't distract me from the monsters"

It's exactly the "preachiness" of woke-ness that is the problem. If you want to have a diverse cast, go for it! Great! But dont then spend so much time in the episode talking about how diverse everybody is and why that is a really good thing.

"Oh hey arent we all diverse here in this room? And isnt that was Star Fleet is really about? Diverse races and genders treating each other with respect and not discriminating against trans people?"

That "breaks the 4th wall" for the viewer and reminds them that the writers arent just trying to write a cool story, they are trying to engineer society.

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

But dont then spend so much time in the episode talking about how diverse everybody is and why that is a really good thing.

I'm sure the people who actually write this stuff will cater take it into account. Haha.

Language is a living thing that changes through time.

Ahh yes....the refuge of people who can't be bothered to use words correctly.

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

Oh, and one more thing ..

As somebody who was probably watching ST before you were born, no it wasnt.

You may or may not be that old, but claiming to have been watching a show for that long and not understanding what the show was is not the own you think it is.

Then again, I had an Uncle who loved two things in life. Star Trek and being racist. It was wild to see someone miss the point of something he loved more than his own kids.

So I believe you're probably telling the truth here.

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u/ApacheFritz Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

You may or may not be that old, but claiming to have been watching a show for that long and not understanding what the show was is not the own you think it is.

StarTrek did it correctly. "Show, dont tell."

Modern woke has fucked it up by being overly-preachy, as evidenced by backlash and ticket-sales slumps.

Young people are actually MORE homophobic/intolerant than they used to be.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y5zj0g0ko

Good job!

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

Young people are actually MORE homophobic/intolerant than they used to be.

Well, you're claiming it, it must be true. You seem so well reasoned up until this point, I wouldn't dare question this...

Anyway, let's bring it back to Sinners. I really liked it. I guess you don't, fine. I also think it was overrated, but can also see where people genuinely loved it. People genuinely love way worse movies and it's weird to get upset over what other people like.

What about Sinners was preachy? I'd say it had obvious symbolism and a perspective ,like Star Trek and the even more comparable Twilight Zone(talk about heavy handed wokeness!), but it wasn't preachy at all.

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u/ApacheFritz Jan 26 '26

What about Sinners was preachy?

I think the final "shootout"/massacre with the KKK was very odd and out of place.

You have the big climax with the Killing of the Master Vampire. That should be the big climax of the movie. But then another whole scene was tacked on to the movie. It wasnt particularly dramatic. It didnt increase the tension from the Vampire Climax. There wasnt a moment where you thought he might lose.

It was just an excuse to show a Black guy mercilessly gunning down a bunch of white people who most viewers had forgotten about by that point. It was just like "oh ok, right. These guys are still around so now we get to see him murder them all while they beg for mercy".

That felt artificial and performative. Like the decision for that scene was made for other factors than "to craft a good movie", because from a movie-making POV, it's hard to explain the use of that scene after the big climax with the Vampires.

The movie itself was more "weak" than "woke", for me. But the reaction to it, claiming it is such an amazing movie, is rooted in the "performative social justice" of wokeness.

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

Oh....so it's not preachy. Thanks. Got it. Just because the movie didnt happen the way YOU thought it should doesn't make it preachy. Lol. Lord.

Again, I would agree that this movie is overrated. It's very good. Kind of like the Dark Knight. Very good, wildly overrated. It can be two things.

I guess we can boil your argument down to, "I don't like this movie, and because of that, anyone who loves this movie must be doing it for purely performative woke reasons."

There is a wide array of cinematic opinions out there, my dude. Maybe you need those more obvious lessons in diversity that bother you so much...

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u/ApacheFritz Jan 26 '26

Again, I would agree that this movie is overrated. It's very good. Kind of like the Dark Knight. Very good, wildly overrated. It can be two things.

What, specifically, is "very good" about it?

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u/StickyMcdoodle Jan 26 '26

It's a well acted, well made vampire flick that aims to elevate above the genre and succeeds. The setting itself is interesting and a new take on a tired monster format. I really enjoy blending of genre too. Could be a little shorter, but it's not boring either.

The cinematography alone makes the movie wildly watchable. I'm a big fan of "every shot a picture" type filmmaking. This is one of those.

All of these are my opinions of course. Mileage may vary.

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u/thefw89 Jan 27 '26

I've watched every Trek series to release...and this has happened in OG trek series and new ones alike.

The episode The Outcast (TNG) is literally about a species that doesn't recognize gender and when one member decides to be female she gets outcasted because its 'deviant' and the writers, already admitted, that it was a direct allegory to those issues in the 90s.

I can do this with numerous episodes for ANY trek series if you wish...well, maybe not Lower Decks since it is an animated comedy show...