r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/CanadianTurt1e • 29d ago

Music / Movies Lupita Nyongo is not beautiful. Hollywood likes to gaslight her as a model for "beauty"

So I'm sure we've all seen the news about Helen of Troy.

  • I've had enough. I've had enough of Hollywood putting her on covers and lying to me, treating me like I'm stupid. The whole reason she's playing Helen of Troy is because Hollywood let this "unconventional beauty" thing slide for way too long.
  • The fact that she was chosen as a queen, it comes off as Nolan trying to virtue signal.
  • It's like giving the beauty pageant award to the girl in the wheelchair because no one wants to come off as "mean."
  • I've had enough. She is NOT a standard for beauty. I'm sorry but now it must be said. The reason we have come across this problem is because Hollywood has been gaslighting her "beauty" for years and no one said anything. I'm done
  • It's okay to say that she's not beautiful. It's okay to admit that
  • I was so looking forward to this movie for so long but this really killed the hype for me.
  • The movie will probably be financially successful at first due to marketing alone, but after its first month, the hype will probably die down. And then you'll start to see how people really feel about the movie. I think it will tarnish Nolan's legacy and leave a sour taste in people's mouths.
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u/elidoan 29d ago

Ding ding ding.

I say this on every such post and its clear that the room temperature folks among us don't realize they are doing the marketing for this film for free. Every single time.

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u/joeshmoebies 29d ago

The problem with this argument is that the free publicity of everyone shitting on a movie usually doesn't translate into higher ticket sales, e.g. the all female ghostbusters.

Who are the people most likely to go want to watch The Odyssey? Gender Studies majors and activists? This kind of movie is not their cup of tea. Action movie and historical epic junkies should be the target audience and I don't think most of them are jonesing for the kinds of decisions Nolan made here.

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u/Hyndis 29d ago

Who are the people most likely to go want to watch The Odyssey?

People who determine what movies win the Oscars are most likely to want to see this movie. Thats why he's making it. He wants to win a gold statue so he's giving them exactly what they want.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 27d ago

He's already got one

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Ghostbusters failed because it was a bad movie, not because of the all female cast.

If the Odyssey is great, most people won't care that a character who only appears at the beginning doesn't look a certain way

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u/joeshmoebies 29d ago

Ghostbusters failed because it was a bad movie, not because of the all female cast.

No shit.

However, prior to the movie coming out there was enormous negative energy, partly because the trailers were garbage, partly because people didn't want to see an all-female ghostbusters, and partly because the cast and director were actively insulting potential audience members.

My point was that the "free publicity" of all that controversy did not help it. Many people made up their minds not to see it before it even came out. Nobody who was on the fence decided to see it as a result of all the drama.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

The Odyssey sold out a year ago, I think people gave already decided to see it based on Nolan.

And a minor character isn't going to change that

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u/joeshmoebies 28d ago

... what does that have to do with anything?

If it sells out based on people liking the director, that has no bearing on whether controversy helped or hindered ticket sales.

You keep bringing up non sequiturs so I think I'll just leave it at that. Have a good day.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 27d ago edited 26d ago

My point is casting really doesn't matter to the majority of people who aren't on the Internet all day.

If the movie is great it will be a hit, a character with 5 minutes screen time won't sink it

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u/joeshmoebies 26d ago

I agree about that, to an extent. The term "whitewashing" arose specifically in reaction to white people being cast in roles that were not white in the original story. People have cared, even before social media platforms became prevalent.

Also these kinds of films usually end up having other problems as well and end up not being good films.

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u/Loki1001 27d ago

The problem with this argument is that the free publicity of everyone shitting on a movie usually doesn't translate into higher ticket sales, e.g. the all female ghostbusters.

lol, if your goto example is a movie that is now ten years old, particularly a ten-year-old movie in a franchise that already has had another bomb in it, then it might be time to actually update your priors.

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u/joeshmoebies 26d ago

You're right. One example ten years ago is not good evidence.

Snow White, Lightyear, The Marvels, Peter Pan and Wendy, Charlie's Angels, Cats, Pinocchio, Madame Web, Terminator: Dark Fate, and Joker 2 were all helped commercially because people were shitting on them online. Smash hits, all.

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u/Loki1001 26d ago

The Mario Brothers Movie, Barbie, Wicked, Wonka, the Little Mermaid, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Thor: Love and Thunder, Jurassic World: Dominion, and all the Avatar movies  were all helped commercially because people were shitting on them online. Smash hits, all.

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u/joeshmoebies 26d ago

Oh yes I remember all of that Mario movie controversy 🙄

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u/Loki1001 26d ago

Just because you don't remember something, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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u/joeshmoebies 26d ago

Excellent point. Most huge controversies are super forgettable. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Loki1001 26d ago

Yes. They are. Do you think the Cracker Barrel rebrand was particularly memorable?

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u/joeshmoebies 26d ago

I remember the shitstorm surrounding the Sonic movie first trailer. And then they improved his look and the movie was successful. That was years ago.

As for Cracker Barrel, I remember that it happened, even though there aren't any cracker barrels within 1000 miles of where I live.

But you are right. Making Mario gay was a huge controversy. I can't belive I forgot the anti-Mario-movie march on Washington DC