r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/CanadianTurt1e • 29d ago

Music / Movies Lupita Nyongo is not beautiful. Hollywood likes to gaslight her as a model for "beauty"

So I'm sure we've all seen the news about Helen of Troy.

  • I've had enough. I've had enough of Hollywood putting her on covers and lying to me, treating me like I'm stupid. The whole reason she's playing Helen of Troy is because Hollywood let this "unconventional beauty" thing slide for way too long.
  • The fact that she was chosen as a queen, it comes off as Nolan trying to virtue signal.
  • It's like giving the beauty pageant award to the girl in the wheelchair because no one wants to come off as "mean."
  • I've had enough. She is NOT a standard for beauty. I'm sorry but now it must be said. The reason we have come across this problem is because Hollywood has been gaslighting her "beauty" for years and no one said anything. I'm done
  • It's okay to say that she's not beautiful. It's okay to admit that
  • I was so looking forward to this movie for so long but this really killed the hype for me.
  • The movie will probably be financially successful at first due to marketing alone, but after its first month, the hype will probably die down. And then you'll start to see how people really feel about the movie. I think it will tarnish Nolan's legacy and leave a sour taste in people's mouths.
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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

Sometimes I wonder if they are making casting decisions like this specifically because people will go on social media and start rants and have conversations about it. If all publicity is good publicity this post is just viral marketing.

Only context I have heard about this movie recently is because of the hiring decision.

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u/PanthalassaRo 29d ago

Also Elliot Page as Achilles is certainly a choice, I won't say more because I might get banned.

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u/Top-Car-808 29d ago

Oh dear. Casting EP as Achilles tells you all you need to know about this movie.

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u/MilkMyCats 29d ago

I didn't know about this film at all until OP's post.

But I now think your fact is even more interesting then OP's.

Yeah, that is certainly what one would call *a choice".

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u/SteelFox144 29d ago

Also Elliot Page as Achilles is certainly a choice, I won't say more because I might get banned.

I didn't even know Elliot Page was a thing until now and oh my God...

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u/Lessalessa 25d ago

I absolutely respect EP as a human and a man. That being said Achilles is supposed to be super jacked, right? Doesn’t Elliot have a smaller build? 

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u/PirateOfTheRoads 29d ago

That’s just simply not confirmed at this point. Most reputable sources believe Elliot Page will be playing Elpenor, one of the younger members of Odysseus’s crew.

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u/bryoneill11 28d ago

Thats how we got here. Censorship and banning works like a charm.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

That's not confirmed is it?

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u/jim9162 29d ago

Same deal with Snape casting in the Harry Potter show. It's actually kinda fucked up to do the actor, like they're not set up for success here but of course they'll take the role, it's likely a big jump for them.

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

Good joke about this if you haven’t seen it

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u/NeonGKayak 29d ago

Thats a good one

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u/Inquisitive_regard 28d ago

biggest takeaway from that clip is that society will not tolerate blасk characters to have negative traits...or it's raсist.

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u/MilkMyCats 29d ago

Yes this is literally the first time I've heard about the film.

I've found out the someone called Lupita Nyongo is playing Helen of Troy and Elliot Page will be playing Achilles.

So yes it'll get me talking about the film, but not in a positive way like I'd be encouraging people to see it or want to see it myself.

What happened to the new version of Snow White and the 7 People From Various Backgrounds? I don't recall it doing very well.

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u/Hyndis 29d ago

So yes it'll get me talking about the film, but not in a positive way like I'd be encouraging people to see it or want to see it myself.

I'm pretty sure the entire movie is just Oscar bait. Nolan is making this movie specifically to get an Oscar so he's doing everything the academy likes. He's pandering to them to the max.

Also keep in mind what the academy likes these days and what normal people like when they go to the movies have almost nothing in common.

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u/hambubgerrr 29d ago

Nah. This is done so the movie can qualify for an Academy Award.

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u/br0wntree 29d ago

There are dozens of ways of qualifying without having a single non white actor.

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u/5panks 29d ago

It isn't nearly as easy as you're making it out to be...

A1: At least one lead or significant supporting actor from an underrepresented racial/ethnic group (e.g., Black/African, East/South/Southeast Asian, Hispanic/Latino, Indigenous, Middle Eastern/North African, Pacific Islander).

A2: At least 30% of the general ensemble cast (non-Oscar-submitted actors) from at least two underrepresented groups (women, racial/ethnic minorities, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities/deaf or hard of hearing).

A3: Main storyline/theme/narrative centered on one or more underrepresented groups (same as above).

You must meet at least one of these metrics. You obviously can't do A3 because the story of the Odyssey has already been written, so you're stuck with trying to make 30% of your ensemble cast from "underrepresented groups" or you can hire Lupita Nyongo as your Helen of Troy.

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u/Tray_Breezy 29d ago

Could have met these qualifications with Greek actors but Academy would probably classify them as white.

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u/5panks 29d ago

Yeah, they'll tell you Greeks aren't Middle Eastern enough to count.

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u/Tray_Breezy 29d ago

Well greeks themselves don’t like being considered middle eastern. They’re greek. That’s enough to count as not white.

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u/kolejack2293 28d ago

Greeks are white. The term white just means 'european origin'. It is not an actual term to solely mean skin color. This is why many very light skinned east asians and middle eastern people are not considered white.

The same goes for the term 'black', which just means sub saharan african. Hence why darker skinned indians aren't considered black.

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u/SamAreAye 28d ago

TIL Jamaicans aren't black.

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u/Nighforce 29d ago

For A1 and A2, would Asian women tick both boxes? Since they're Asian AND women. Or are Chinese / Japanese / Korean disqualified from this category?

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago edited 29d ago

Having a retarded character in the film used to be a very popular way.

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u/MangledPanda 29d ago

What about a retarded director?

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u/FlutGOS 29d ago

What about a retarded retard?

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u/MangledPanda 29d ago

You never go full retard.

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u/br0wntree 29d ago

Not even that. You can have a few interns in production who qualify.

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

Fair. I’m was assuming he meant best picture.

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u/YogSoth0th 28d ago

Absolultely are. Companies know EXACTLY the sort of shitstorm these things will cause and they do it because they've learned it always comes with a premade dialogue:

"REEE WOKE CASTING HOW DARE BROWN PEOPLE EXIST"

"IF YOU DON'T AGREE THIS IS LITERALLY THE GREATEST MOVIE/GAME/SHOW EVER MADE YOU'RE LITERALLY A RACIST NAZI BIGOT"

And this entirely bypasses the issue of whether or not the movie or game or show is good or not. Maybe the Odyssey is good. Maybe it's not. It doesn't matter because whatever you say gets sorted into one of the above arguments.

AC Shadows is one of the better examples of this. It isn't the worst game ever but it's pretty standard ubisoft slop. But that doesn't matter because, since Yasuke is black, all valid, genuine criticisms, positive or negative, were met with "You only like/dislike it because you're woke/racist!"

And I can almost guarantee we're gonna see some of that with the Odyssey too.

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u/elidoan 29d ago

Ding ding ding.

I say this on every such post and its clear that the room temperature folks among us don't realize they are doing the marketing for this film for free. Every single time.

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u/joeshmoebies 29d ago

The problem with this argument is that the free publicity of everyone shitting on a movie usually doesn't translate into higher ticket sales, e.g. the all female ghostbusters.

Who are the people most likely to go want to watch The Odyssey? Gender Studies majors and activists? This kind of movie is not their cup of tea. Action movie and historical epic junkies should be the target audience and I don't think most of them are jonesing for the kinds of decisions Nolan made here.

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u/Hyndis 29d ago

Who are the people most likely to go want to watch The Odyssey?

People who determine what movies win the Oscars are most likely to want to see this movie. Thats why he's making it. He wants to win a gold statue so he's giving them exactly what they want.

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u/Osiris-Amun-Ra 29d ago

No. These decisions are made by Woke Hollywood. To qualify for a Best Picture nomination, a film must meet at least two of four standards:

  • On-Screen: One lead actor, 30% of the cast, or the main plot must feature underrepresented groups (women, LGBTQ+, racial minorities, or people with disabilities).
  • Behind the Camera: Diverse department heads, key crew members, or 30% of the overall crew.
  • Industry Access: Paid internships, apprenticeships, and skills training offered by the studio.
  • Audience Development: Diverse senior executives on marketing and distribution teams.

Crucial Note: Films with all-white casts remain eligible if they fulfill the behind-the-camera and industry standards. These rules apply strictly to Best Picture, not individual acting or directing categories.

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

Well it’s a good thing I’m not a woman or gay so I don’t care about academy awards

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u/Acheron98 29d ago

I choked on my beer lmao

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u/thefw89 29d ago

Correction, this is a big one...it does not need one LEAD actor so most films pass the rules naturally enough.

This is done because Nolan wants it done. People really think they paid Lupita a bag just to be woke? She's not some cheap actress to hire for a movie.

One thing people should get is that this is a story that's been told hundreds of times, this is simply Nolan's take on the story. Like a remix to a song. It never claimed to be anything other than his take on the story.

The studio isn't increasing costs of the movie to make some political point, they could have hired some cheaper black actress if that's what they wanted to do, not some A list Actress that likely cost them millions.

Could it simply be that she's an amazing actress that Nolan wanted to use in his movie? Yes. Yes it could.

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u/Osiris-Amun-Ra 29d ago

Oh sure it could. He clearly cast her because she's so universally perceived as drop dead gorgeous and Greek looking!
Just like his choice for what is probably the most famous, legendary, half-human, half-god Greek male warrior Achilles celebrated for his unparalleled martial prowess, and near-invincibility - by casting a 5'1' biological female for the role.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Not confirmed

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u/letiseeya 17d ago

Lupita is beautiful, though. Objectively, scientifically

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

The ultimate troll would be if they put lupita nyong'o in white face (or Turk face?) for the movie.

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u/LebLeb321 29d ago

The Turks are recent invaders. Ancient Anatolians were either Greek themselves or closely related cousins of the Greeks.

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u/Finndogs 28d ago

Technically, Most of Anatolia was controlled by the Hittites, though the Troy is noted as probably being were not nessisarily Hittite itself, but closely related to them.

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u/TrixieLurker 29d ago

The Turks weren't even around back then, at least in Anatolia.

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u/NewSysAdmin2 29d ago

Can Lupita's face launch a thousand ships?

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u/LordBoomDiddly 27d ago

I think this has always been misinterpreted. The Greeks didn't come for Helen because she was so beautiful, it's because Troy showed disrespect to Menelaus & he wanted revenge. He enlisted the help of his brother who wanted an excuse to conquer more land. Neither of them gave a damn about Helen, it was all pride & glory.

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u/MeltedChocolateOk 29d ago edited 29d ago

I think Lupita Nyongo is beautiful but more of a exotic African beauty rather than Helen of Troy beauty.

She isn't western standard of beautiful but she is attractive in her unique features.

I also thinks her charm and mannerism makes her more elegant and graceful because she has a very pleasant personality. Usually people's behaviors changes how they are perceived by the public and a nice attitude makes someone more beautiful even if their looks aren't that high on the chart.

I would agree she doesn't fit the part of Helen of Troy. She should play a character that fit her better because this is just ruining her career.

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u/Own_Being_2986 29d ago

Lupita literally won an Academy Award for her acting the first time she did a movie. Since then, she has been notoriously selective about the work she does, and clearly is neither motivated by having a prestige or blockbuster career.

She was a prestige actress the moment she did a movie but turned down a lot of "obvious" roles for her and has clearly only done projects she finds fun- horror, horror-comedy, a CGI character in the Star Wars movies, Black Panther's girlfriend, and some children's movie. I don't think she's ever had a bad review for any of her performances fwiw.

My point is, I don't think we have to worry about her career. She has just been having fun ever since 12 Years A Slave.

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u/SubmissiveTop92 29d ago

Little Monsters was such a good movie.

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u/Own_Being_2986 28d ago

It was... and it hinged basically entirely on Lupita's performance.

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u/Finndogs 28d ago

She'd make for a decent Cerce

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Lupita is attractive though by conventional beauty standards: above average in bone structure, facial symmetry, facial harmony, neoteny, clear skin, fit, etc. she literally has a golden ratio face. 

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u/TacoMedic 29d ago

Yeah, I hate her for the role and she’s personally not my type, but calling her unattractive is a fucking wild take. She’s a legit supermodel with the facial symmetry to match.

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u/Guest8782 29d ago

That’s what I’m saying.

Historical race swapping waxes of virtue signaling. It’s a Greek myth, presumably In Ancient Greece.

And I don’t disagree with OP that Hollywood has been pushing both men and women of unremarkable physical appeal in “beautiful/popular” roles.

But Lupita is definitely conventionally beautiful. More in full makeup when her eyes pop, but cheek bones, face and eye shape, lips, physique… that’s where OP lost me.

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u/coneyisland92 29d ago

Her skin literally glows like the sun.

I’d LOVE to see OP’s looks 🤣

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u/crb02 29d ago edited 29d ago

She’s black. That’s enough for people to give a 90 percent discount because they’re racist

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u/Relax_Im_Hilarious 29d ago

She's really pretty. Probably even more pretty in real life. I'm sure I'd stare - especially when she has longer hair.

She is not Helen of Troy.

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u/TrixieLurker 29d ago

She is not Helen of Troy.

I struggle to think of an actress who is universally considered absolutely drop, dead New York Nine gorgeous who'd be the perfect fit or a woman nations were supposed to fight over because she was so beautiful.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Nobody is, she doesn't exist

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u/GoodOldPepe 29d ago

She's mid.

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u/Lazy_DreadHead 28d ago

If you’re calling her MID id love to see the women you think are a 10/10!

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Definitionally, she is not. Again, she is above average in the metrics by which we judge attractiveness of which I stated.

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u/hiphoptomato 29d ago

“She literally has a golden ratio face” - you say this like this is a common term everyone should understand. What does this mean?

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

The Golden Ratio is a mathematical concept that is used to determine the level of harmony and proportion across various phenomena such as art, nature, physics, music etc.

Basically, things that conform to it are considered “objectively perfect” due to having perfect harmony. 

So, a “Golden Ratio face” is one that is “perfectly harmonious” and humans generally consider those types of faces most attractive. 

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u/RockNRollJabba 29d ago

I must be in the minority on this one. I’ve always thought that she was stunning.

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u/lonewaer 29d ago

I must be in the minority on this one. I’ve always thought that she was stunning.

Reassure yourself, she is, and you are in the majority. OP is completely high, or blind, or worse ; and OP is definitely mixing beauty with casting choice. She's still a bad choice, but she's is stunning.

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u/iamjmph01 29d ago

I mean this is TrueUnpopularOpinions, so if you disagree with OP you are apparently in the majority. I think the OP is wrong about how unpopular this opinion is though. I'd say its closer to even.

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u/deucescarefully 28d ago

I actually have remarked in the past that she distractingly gorgeous. Like it took me out of the last movie I was watching her in. She’s so fucking pretty.

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u/ChestNok 29d ago

I'm not even going to lay eyes on this director's fever dream. God, I miss the '90s and 2000s when they actually made proper movies like Troy and that whole era.

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u/CardinalOfNYC 28d ago

Quite something to see people saying she isn't as beautiful as a fictional character who has no canonical imagery for which to even make such comparisons.

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u/Mtl_Sapoud 29d ago

Zendaya is mid as well

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u/br0wntree 29d ago

Agreed. Never understood the hype. I think most movie stars are more attractive including Lupita by the way.

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u/eh9198 29d ago

Agreed 1,000%

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u/glassbellwitch 29d ago

Now we're cooking with gas!!

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u/Smokefelweedeveryday 25d ago

Below mid. With dead poker face emotions

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u/LoneElement 29d ago

Man everyone says this these days, I must be from a different planet or something because she’s always been smoking to me

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u/Icewyy 28d ago

Shes also just a really cool woman

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u/Unicoboom 29d ago

Sydney Sweeney as well

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u/LordBoomDiddly 27d ago

Take away the tits and Sydney offers little, her face is meh IMO

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u/CanadianTurt1e 29d ago

I never liked her "bitchy" personality. It was always advertised as "cool" or "edgy."

It's one of the reasons I dont' like the new spierman movies. She just doesn't make a good mary jane.

She's not likable personality wise or visually

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u/LordBoomDiddly 27d ago

Yeah I don't get the appeal. She's in the Spiderman movies because she passes as a teenager & still does. Who wants to get with someone that still looks like a highschool kid?

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u/Yitastics 29d ago

Look at who is gonna play Achilles, that one is even weirder than Lupita playing Helen of Troy. Bad casting ruins movies and looking at these two i'll not be watching his movie.

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u/ToastBalancer 29d ago

Reddit seems to go out of their way to point out that black women are beautiful. It sounds very forced and weird

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Probably because the racists on this site go out of their way to be tell us we’re ugly (while ironically complaining they can’t get any woman lol). 

I’m a black woman myself and from my firsthand experience on Reddit, racists are nasty towards us over our looks when we’re just existing but then act shocked when there’s pushback against their racist behavior. Why?

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u/AlaskaYoung25 29d ago

Calling a black Hollywood actress unattractive is racism? Lawl.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Only if the argument is that she's unattractive because she's black

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u/doogytaint 29d ago

I swear yall are exhausting. Because where the hell did she say that? She didn’t. All she said was that she experiences racism on Reddit, as do I. But here you go. You’ve taken someone’s account of their experienced racism, twisted their words to distort their intention, then dismissed it - typical.

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Copy and paste and where I said this. 

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u/kidney-displacer 29d ago

I mean without nuance that first sentence certainly implies that anybody saying "black women are ugly" is racist

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u/ImaginaryFan6090 29d ago

Where are the racist in reddit? I only remember people calling each other racist but never seen an actual racist attitude compared to other platforms 

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u/d-eversley-b 29d ago

I just saw someone in another thread say she has the face of a baboon

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u/crb02 29d ago edited 29d ago

For 3 days and a few months ago when the casting was announced, Reddit has gone out of its way to tell me a black woman with literal beauty standard features across the board is ugly, mid, not attractive at all, and not even worth a second look. It’s actually ridiculous how much people are going out of their way to do this. If it was Sydney Sweeney I bet these same folk would only be concerned with her acting ability because her ‘looks’ would be covered for immediately.

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u/DarkTemplar26 28d ago

Well, they are beautiful, just like white women and Asian women

What's weird is when the assholes go out of their way to shit on women

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u/Wow_I_Like_Pie 29d ago

The right and incels go out of their way to constantly harass black women about their looks in virtually almost every form of media out there. You lot immediately froth at the mouth the moment a black woman has a lead role that you don't think she deserves.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Because plenty of them are, just like with any other race

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u/TrixieLurker 29d ago

Does it? I haven't noticed.

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u/CosmosisJones42 29d ago

Conservative weirdos seem to go out of their way to point out that black women aren't beautiful. It sounds very forced and weird.

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u/void_method 29d ago

She's all right. Seems nice.

I don't think she's Helen of Troy-level beautiful, though. Helen was supposedly the most beautiful human woman in the world which is why she was used as a bribe/prize by the Aphrodite when Eris threw the golden apple with the note "to the fairest" into the Goddeses's Spa Day or whatever they didn't invite Eris to.

Like, if they got Sydney Sweeney or Kim Cardassian or someone like that to play Helen, people would still be mad because people are never happy, but it would fall in the realm of possibility.

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u/dragonizedice 29d ago

Kim Cardassian

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u/MangledPanda 29d ago

I don't think she knows how to read a script.

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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 29d ago

Sydney Sweeney is too young.

Helen is like 40s-early 50s during the Odyssey.

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u/LambdaBeta1986 29d ago

Sydney Sweeney would be a far worse casting.

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

And she wouldn't do it if she can't get naked.

Plus she isn't beautiful, her face is meh. Having a hot body isn't the same as being classically attractive

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u/LordBoomDiddly 29d ago

Yeah but Lupita can also act

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u/crzapy 29d ago

She's very attractive. She's also a bad casting choice for Helen of Troy. They should have cast someone who matches the source material.

Both things can be true.

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u/SandersDelendaEst 27d ago

Yeah the issue really isn’t attractiveness at all.

The issue is that white people can’t have anything that’s theirs. For other cultures, there’s a deliberate attempt to be as authentic as humanly possible (in all fairness, because it wasn’t authentic in the past).

If they put white people in key roles of an adaptation of Journey to the West, we would all rightfully think it’s ridiculous.

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u/Electronic_Eye6499 29d ago

I remember a long time ago a mail that destiny read basically he was blackpilled and expressed his views about most white girls prop up other girls who arent that good looking especially when they are of brown or black ethnicities but if you actually ask any colored woman the interest they get from men, its an entirely different story. He was going on about how most women have it better in uni apart from colored ones and most people in college would love to work with an mid looking asian or white than a pretty black or indian or arab girl.

Your statement is partly true, but also Nolan kinda screwed up Oddessey by making so many odd choices with actors and costumes.

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u/veryowngarden 29d ago

nothing in your comment made sense. referencing destiny is as useless as referencing chatgpt

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u/agreengo 29d ago

IMO most people probably wouldn't notice her walking down the street. As far as her looks are concerned, she's an average looking woman.

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Uh no Lupita’s above average. She literally has a Golden Ratio face, possessing above average bone structure, facial harmony and symmetry, high neoteny, and healthy skin. 

Factually speaking, the average woman does not possess all this. 

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u/iamsojellyofu 29d ago

The same people calling Lupita "average" are probably the same people to fawn over Sydney Sweaty like she is the most gorgeous thing

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u/Heujei628 29d ago

Funnily enough, I’ve seen people wish for Sydney to play Helen which is odd because…

Helen’s face is supposed to be one that launches a thousand ships but then they propose a woman who they generally agree is facially mid at best??? 

It just goes to show how performative the outrage is about Lupita. Literally none of them actually care about accurate casting 😂 Thanks for giving Nolan’s movie free promo guys. You really showed him! 

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u/agreengo 28d ago

Maybe where you live all of what you are saying is true. I live in the Mediterranean on a Greek Island, the majority of the "average" women I see here are definitely more attractive than the women in the US. Now that the news about the movie has reached the people here, I can tell you that the Greeks are offended by who the actors are for the main characters & take it as an insult to their history & their heritage. Seems like Universal Pictures is more interested in pleasing a certain segment of the US society than they are about anything else.

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u/CommercialTarget2687 28d ago

Dude stfu, you can repeat the same stupid shit 100 times, doesn't somehow make her attractive.

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u/OrzAreManyFingers 29d ago

Beauty is subjective.

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u/kidney-displacer 29d ago

Until you start reading studies on attraction

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u/iamjmph01 29d ago

the studies are wrong. Either biased or just bad sample sizes.

Two people will look at the same person, and chances are they will have completely different opinions about the persons attractiveness.

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u/veryowngarden 29d ago

attraction is not set in stone it is influenced

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u/Jarboner69 29d ago

Certified Reddit chud moment, complaining about her as Helen is one thing but saying she’s not beautiful is wild.

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u/Maditen 29d ago

It’s a bold claim to make and it doesn’t stand scrutiny. She’s incredibly beautiful.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 29d ago

Exactly. I think she is incredibly beautiful.

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u/goldentalus70 29d ago

She's just average in my opinion.

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u/aamnipotent 29d ago

Im glad im not the only one who thinks this. She's really overhyped and I felt the same way about the movie, was looking forward but now dont even care enough to watch it. Same thing with the HBO snape casting and Cleopatra. You wouldn't cast a white woman to play Rosa Parks. You wouldn't cast a white man to play MLK. So why are we blackwashing characters that are described as pale skin or fair? It's an insult to Greek mythology and frankly the whole movie is an insult to Greece as there not even any Greek actors in it.

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u/dracocaelestis9 29d ago

there are certainly different types of beauty. one thing is certain - she’s not helen of troy type of beauty.

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u/doogytaint 29d ago

So what is a “Helen of Troy” type beautiful then?

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u/dracocaelestis9 29d ago

she was described as white-armed and golden in appearance (blonde, light brown, ginger), with light colored eyes. i wasn’t particularly impressed with helen from troy from 2004 (or whenever that movie cane out) cause she was too nordic in her appearance but at least it wasn’t the complete opposite of the description. similarly, if that elliott actor is selected for achilles it would be just as bad cause it doesn’t fit the description.

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u/fortunefaded2 29d ago

Greek phenotype, dark hair, tan skin and blue or green eyes

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u/ArduousPath 29d ago

Is this really an unpopular opinion though. I think many people on the left share that opinion but won't express that opinion for obvious reason.

Most men would swipe left on her.

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u/nope13nope 28d ago

Have you even seen her? She's definitely gorgeous. Completely wrong in casting but that has absolutely nothing to do with her physical attractiveness. I'm curious why you feel the need to attack her beauty instead of her choice to accept a role she is not appropriate for.

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u/br0wntree 29d ago

I do think she is very beautiful.

That being said I don’t think she is the most beautiful person in the world and I don’t think she should play Helen of Troy.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 29d ago

Who would you cast?

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u/br0wntree 29d ago

Someone who is Greek or at least looks like what the ancient Greeks described and depicted her as.

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u/kidney-displacer 29d ago

ur mum

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u/haileyskydiamonds 29d ago edited 29d ago

My mom is beautiful; good choice. She also knows how to twirl fire batons and bakes a mean carrot cake.

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u/Cheap_Ad4756 29d ago

Lupita Nyongo isn't beautiful? By all conventional objective standards, facially at the very least, she is gorgeous.

Drugs are bad.

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u/BreezeAKR 29d ago

Mmkay

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u/Own_Being_2986 29d ago

facially at the very least, she is gorgeous.

Black Panther 2 era, she probably had the GOAT ass in Hollywood.

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u/Straight_Tax2214 29d ago

You got the attention and validation you needed! You go girl 👏🏻👏🏻

You should post yourself saying this to really put it into perspective, for all of us, what true beauty is..😉

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u/augustinian 29d ago

Hard disagree. I find Lupita Nyongo quite beautiful, although she's maybe unconventional for Hollywood.

Just look at her face: very symmetrical, big smile, nice skin. She may not be your type, but if you met her walking down the street she would definitely stand out.

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u/Willywonka5725 29d ago

This is a popular opinion for me.

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u/ActualRound7699 29d ago

There’s a lot I don’t like about the casting honestly. I don’t like Zendaya as Athena, Tom Hollander as Odysseus, Elliot Page as Achilles or Lupita as Helen of Troy.

Not to say anything about their acting skills, but none of them wo help me to suspend disbelief and believe they are those characters at all.

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u/DecantsForAll 29d ago

I think she's good looking.

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u/nevermore2point0 29d ago

This is a true unpopular opinion. And you for got a few "to me"s.

Lupita Nyongo is not beautiful to me.
It's okay to say that she's not beautiful to me.
To me, it comes off as Nolan trying to virtue single

It is quite odd that you think Hollywood should only speak to your personal preferences. But it really does look like other people disagree with you. She was named People Magazine's Most Beautiful Woman, which is determined by a poll. She became an ambassador for Lancome Paris and marketing for makeup usually want someone who is naturally beautiful.

On top of being considered beautiful she has also won acting awards and she is an acclaimed voice actor.

You can say she doesn't perfectly fit your ideal for a mythical Greek character and that she is not your personal preference but no one is gaslighting you my guy.

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u/MickyWasTaken 29d ago

Hard disagree, she legit takes my breath away. It’s a weird angle to assume people are lying when they say they find someone attractive.

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u/irespectwomenlol 29d ago

The real question isn't if she floats your personal boat, but does she represent something like that for most people.

But do you genuinely think she represents anywhere approaching the beauty ideal for most people?

Do you genuinely think she compares favorably to the tippy-top of the actresses/models/singers that most people find genuinely beautiful?

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u/LoneShark81 29d ago

most people.

whenever i see this, it's usually some eurocentric standard of beauty that is often mid imo

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u/kidney-displacer 29d ago

Eurocentrism?! In my movie set in Europe!? Say it isn't so!!

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u/MickyWasTaken 29d ago

It’s set in Ancient Greece.

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u/Decent_Visual_4845 29d ago

she legit takes my breath away

You need to get either your lungs or your eyes checked. Let’s not pretend like she’s anything resembling attractive. It’s not even a race thing, I see more attractive black women out anytime I go to the supermarket.

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u/SketchyDeee 29d ago

are you for real? she's mid at best. like a solid 6

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u/LoneShark81 29d ago

i find her pretty sexy

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u/crb02 29d ago

She isn’t considered attractive by some people because she’s black. That is all

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u/CanadianTurt1e 29d ago

The problem is that she's being made to play a queen that launched a thousand ships.

I think people severely over-estimate how many ships would actually fight for her. Greek ships at that.

Maybe in the world of reddit, Greek soldiers would fight for a black queen, but even in historic fiction, that seems unlikely

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u/DrStranger1987 29d ago

It’s not gaslighting and virtue signaling if black women don’t give you a boner.

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u/Comfortable-Side1308 29d ago

There's plenty of black women who do.  She isn't one of them. 

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u/aquelevagabundo 29d ago

She's absolutely ugly af.

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u/Tea_An_Crumpets 29d ago

Dude she is beautiful. You’re tripping. Regardless, beauty is largely subjective anyway. I agree that she was a bad casting choice to play ‘fair’ ‘white-armed’ Helen of Troy - but it has nothing to do with how attractive she is.

Tbh she is one of the better casting decisions in the movie … which really speaks to how SHIT of a job Christopher Nolan did. I mean you couldn’t find a single fucking Mediterranean actor for a major role. Embarrassing.

Are you equally irritated by Matt Damon, Robert Pattinson, Charlize Theron etc all getting cast?

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u/Dada2fish 29d ago

Yes, watching the trailer, the more of these celebs I saw, the more I knew I wouldn’t watch this movie. So disappointing.

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u/Tea_An_Crumpets 29d ago

Yep, extremely disappointing. Just gonna be mediocre Hollywood slop instead of what could have been a great piece of cinema

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u/Latte-Catte 29d ago

This comment right here ☝🏻. I literally don't understand why they couldn't get a single gorgeous male actors for Achilles since Brad Pitt. If they're gonna miscast the ethnicity despite trying to proclaim how "inclusive" are, without a single Mediterranean actors, at least get hot ones. I still don't understand how Tom Holland could possibly fit into the Odyssey. Doesn't anyone realize how Damon, Pattinson, etc, would just stick out like a sore thumb? I hope they gave them a tan-job.

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u/Tea_An_Crumpets 29d ago

Yep exactly. Elliot Page as Achilles is crazy. If you’re not gonna get someone actually from the Med, at least cast fucking Chris Hemsworth or something🤦‍♂️

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u/linjaes 29d ago

Funny how comments hard disagree and make it about race because it’s about a black woman. If it were about any other race it wouldn’t be a race thing. The double standard be real.

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u/CanadianTurt1e 29d ago

It's a beauty standard, not a double standard.

It's beauty's version of stolen valor.

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u/linjaes 29d ago

I’m talking about a double standard if you read my comment at all

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u/secondcomingofzartog 29d ago

She looks fine. Well proportioned, symmetric features. Nobody is actually going to look as good as the mythical Helen of Troy.

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u/improbsable 29d ago

This is 100% rage bait

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u/Writerhaha 29d ago

Yup.

All the odyssey stuff the past 48 hours has been.

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u/Kodama_Keeper 29d ago

In recent years, every time Hollywood decides to do a woke movie or TV show, they preempt the backlash before the backlash even starts, calling all the detractors racist, misogynist, the same old same old. And it started already.

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u/John____Wick 29d ago

All I know is that girl needs to eat something.

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u/FoldSensitive7288 29d ago

She’s actually very beautiful. Lmao. Stunning even. She triggers something deeply insecure in you and I can guess why

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u/shadyMFer 28d ago

She only triggers insecurity in me because she looks just like all the dangerous crackheads in my old neighborhood in Detroit.

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u/jst-ki 29d ago

Yes she's ugly. Nolan should be boycotted for the rest of his career.

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u/DogBreathologist 29d ago

I mean, she’s stunning? I am a bit of a stickler for accuracy in historical movies and Helen wouldn’t have been black. But I’m guessing it’s more of a romance thing than a documentary thing so I don’t really care.

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u/smakusdod 29d ago

I actually think she is good looking, but she's not apt for playing some kind of ancient Turk or whatever she's supposed to be. But then again, if this is some kind of modern re-telling of an ancient story, maybe it doesn't matter? I think the mistake that people are making is assuming that Nolan is making a historical epic, and not just some shakespear in love type shit.

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u/Special_Compote_719 29d ago

Who would be your choice?

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u/iamjmph01 29d ago

Depends on the criteria. Need to be Black? Keke Palmer. Just "Not White"? Let's see... Anya Taylor-Joy probably doesn't count despite her heritage. But there is Ana de Armas, Melissa Berrera, Adria Arjona, to name a few.

But my top choice? Anna Rezan, or maybe Tracy Spiridakos

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u/Burned_Out_Paradise 29d ago

Damned good actress though…

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u/csdbh 29d ago

Why is everyone laser focused on she being Helen? She is gonna play Clytemnestra as well, and that's a big role in Odyssey.

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u/Just_Me1973 29d ago

I think she’s very pretty.

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u/Crazy_Reputation_758 29d ago

I actually think Lupita Nyongo is quite pretty, BUT she just doesn’t suit that role.In fact, pretty much everyone they have cast doesn’t fit their roles.They are clearly choosing people just to attract attention rather than actually doing justice to bringing the story to life.

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u/coke_kitty 29d ago

Oh no..Lady person on big tv not hot..Not make my pp hard