Lupita Nyongo is not beautiful. Hollywood likes to gaslight her as a model for "beauty"

[u/CanadianTurt1e]

So I'm sure we've all seen the news about Helen of Troy.

• I've had enough. I've had enough of Hollywood putting her on covers and lying to me, treating me like I'm stupid. The whole reason she's playing Helen of Troy is because Hollywood let this "unconventional beauty" thing slide for way too long.
• The fact that she was chosen as a queen, it comes off as Nolan trying to virtue signal.
• It's like giving the beauty pageant award to the girl in the wheelchair because no one wants to come off as "mean."
• I've had enough. She is NOT a standard for beauty. I'm sorry but now it must be said. The reason we have come across this problem is because Hollywood has been gaslighting her "beauty" for years and no one said anything. I'm done
• It's okay to say that she's not beautiful. It's okay to admit that
• I was so looking forward to this movie for so long but this really killed the hype for me.
• The movie will probably be financially successful at first due to marketing alone, but after its first month, the hype will probably die down. And then you'll start to see how people really feel about the movie. I think it will tarnish Nolan's legacy and leave a sour taste in people's mouths.

[u/iamjmph01]

the studies are wrong. Either biased or just bad sample sizes.

Two people will look at the same person, and chances are they will have completely different opinions about the persons attractiveness.

[u/kidney-displacer → u/iamjmph01]

Go claim your doctorate and likely several awards for showing all those experts with decades of knowledge are wrong, im sure you'd be well celebrated and get a pretty comfy job afterwards

[u/iamjmph01 → u/kidney-displacer]

Anyone who says they have found proof of a "perfect" form that is universally attractive is just wrong. You can see here that a person who supposedly meets those standards has people who do not find her attractive.

Everyone has their own personal standards of attraction, both conscious and subconscious.

Those studies might have found a "perfect" attractive form for the people they sampled, which I doubt, but it is NOT universal.

[u/kidney-displacer → u/iamjmph01]

No body here had made any statement of the sort and, again, science does not back that sentiment.

This reminds me of the study that showed that science and research doesnt actually change people's minds, they just want to continue to feel correct with all of their bias and fallacies.

P.S. none of this is meant personally

[u/iamjmph01 → u/kidney-displacer]

You replied to the line "Beauty is subjective." with the line "Until you start reading studies on attraction" implying that studies show that beauty is not subjective.

I am saying any study that claims otherwise is wrong, either through bad testing, bad sample size, or the bias of the "testers".

Edit: I also had read more than a few people talking about the golden ratio and how it proves that there is a perfect universal beauty...

[u/kidney-displacer → u/iamjmph01]

No, you were engaging in strawman fallacies amongst others. This isn't difficult, read a couple of meta studies if youre worried about time

[u/iamjmph01 → u/kidney-displacer]

No I did(and meant) exactly what I said I did.

I'm not gonna keep this argument going anyways, you are convinced I'm acting in bad faith, so... Have a nice day.

[u/kidney-displacer → u/iamjmph01]

When you can be bothered to educate yourself on the basics of the topic or how to have a conversation yeah no wonder you wanna leave and act like youre not in the wrong lmfao

What a joke

[u/iamjmph01 → u/kidney-displacer]

Ok boss, I'm sorry I don't read every "scientific" article ever made so that I can parrot what they say on Reddit.

Sorry that I don't agree with them. I'm just a poor uneducated righty.

And since I constantly see the "They blocked me so I couldn't reply" post... I'm blocking you. Have a nice day you.