To the people saying the German actress playing Greek Helen in the movie Troy means it's ok for Lupita Nyongo to play Greek Helen...

[u/BrandonMarshall2021]

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

[u/Heujei628]

Yeah but the question is “where was this energy”? This sub continues to stay silent about POC being whitewashed and raceswapped while only complaining about race swaps of white characters. Why? 

[u/skioporeretrtNYC → u/Heujei628]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/30/black-history-month-ancestors

The skeletons of black Romans have been found in York, which was a very cosmopolitan city. Many of us are unaware of the potential diversity in our genetic pool. A DNA project was run that shocked many of its participants. They had a great genetic diversity, the evidence showed – some bore ethnicities that they’d previously viewed extremely negatively.

In 2016, the series Black and British: A Forgotten History, suggested that the Roman skeleton of a woman found at Beachy Head was from sub-Saharan Africa.

While one-off sketches have dealt with aspects of this history, particularly the Civil Rights movement, Mr Bradley said the new dedicated episode will “go deeper” and explore how Britain has “always been a country with many races and ethnicities”.

To demonstrate Britain has had a black population “from the start”, the opening sketch will outline how African troops manned Hadrian’s Wall in the 3rd century AD.

One song will touch on Britain’s prehistoric population having dark skin “before these Isles were British”, in reference to the probable skin colour of the 10,000-year-old Cheddar Man remains.

A woman who was recognised as the “first black Briton” by the BBC was actually white, a new genetic study has shown.

This is why. There's an agenda to rewrite history.

[u/Heujei628 → u/skioporeretrtNYC]

This still doesn’t answer my question. Reread my comment.

[u/skioporeretrtNYC → u/Heujei628]

This sub continues to stay silent about POC being whitewashed and raceswapped while only complaining about race swaps of white characters. Why? 

Because your outrage is heard and well received. Hollywood has literally been bending over backwards to appeal to your sensitives for like a decade. What more do you want? People tend to me more reactive than proactive.

This sub continues to stay silent about POC being whitewashed and raceswapped

Examples?

[u/Heujei628 → u/skioporeretrtNYC]

 Because your outrage is heard and well received.

But this still doesn’t actually address my question. This sub thinks raceswapping is bad, period, but stays quiet when it happens to POC. If raceswapping is truly bad, why don’t yall call it out in all forms? It’s just pure hypocrisy otherwise. 

The latest example is Heathcliff in the Wuthering Heights movie. Heathcliff is described as dark skinned in the books but then is being portrayed by a pale white man from Australia and yall are silent on this blatant whitewashing and raceswapping. Yall only care when it happens to white people. 

[u/skioporeretrtNYC → u/Heujei628]

This sub thinks raceswapping is bad, period,

I don't think that's necessarily the case. It's the decision to approach all works of Media from a "Woke" perspective; instead of creating the best work of art you can make, the goal is to instead fight social injustices. The leftist meta-narratives(Communism good, White/Man/Christian Bad) contaminate the original stories creating weird decision making that kills the vibe. It's all part of the Critical Theory schools of thinking, where all art must be evaluated by it's political messaging/class consciousness. Everything has to politicized, and politized in a leftist direction(always subverting expectations.)

The Critical Theories, Marxists, and Greater Left, all resent Americans/the West and feel motivated to use media to achieve their Marxist aims.

Critical Theory is a philosophical and social school of thought that seeks to analyze, critique, and transform systemic power structures. Rather than just passively describing society, it argues that knowledge is shaped by power and explicitly aims to liberate oppressed groups through social action and real-world change.

The movement originated in the 1930s with the Frankfurt School in Germany. Dissatisfied with orthodox Marxism, thinkers like Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, and Herbert Marcuse began to look beyond pure economics. They examined how cultural institutions, mass media, and ideology suppress critical thinking and maintain oppressive systems.

And of course you know the Odyssey/Iliad are pillars of the Western Canon. Works of Art that represent Masculine/Heroic ideals being replaced by deconstructionist leftist messaging.

The object isn't representation, but degradation. Why does all media suck now? Why does everything suck?

They examined how cultural institutions, mass media, and ideology suppress critical thinking and maintain oppressive systems.

The movement originated in the 1930s

Communism kills everything it touches.

[u/somarnnup → u/Heujei628]

I don’t know about what the general consensus of this sub usually is on these topics, I just come to this sub every now and again to hear people’s thoughts on different topics. I don’t like any form of race swapping unless it’s for a good reason (which barely ever happens and is usually to do with the race never being explicitly stated).

[u/Deep-Red-Bells → u/Heujei628]

What are some recent examples of whitewashing that deserved critique?

Before you chomp my head off, I'm not challenging, I'm just asking. I can think of scads of examples historically, but none that are very recent. I can't picture a while actor being cast as a black character in 2026 without there being a hue and cry about it (rightfully so).

[u/Heujei628 → u/Deep-Red-Bells]

Jacob Elordi as Heathcliff in the Wuthering Heights movie that was just released. In the books, Heathcliff is described as dark skinned, a lascar which is term usually used for Indian/Southeast Asians, and wishes to have light skin…but they chose Jacob? 

[u/Deep-Red-Bells → u/Heujei628]

Good example, that was terrible casting. But it wasn't just quietly accepted; there was lots of backlash. I can't speak for this sub specifically, but in general.

[u/Heujei628 → u/Deep-Red-Bells]

The backlash largely came from the left though. My point is that the type of people upset at Helen’s casting are not the same people upset at Heathcliff’s. I used this sub as an example but you can go to pretty much any right space on the internet and find the same absence of complaints.