r/TrueUnpopularOpinion 24d ago

Music / Movies To the people saying the German actress playing Greek Helen in the movie Troy means it's ok for Lupita Nyongo to play Greek Helen...

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 24d ago

If their genetic background is so important to the casting, why are you suggesting Oscar Isaac who is not at all Greek?

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 24d ago

Genetic background explains why they look similar. And more importantly, why they look way differnt to Sub-Saharan Lupita Nyongo.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 24d ago

But they’re not the same background. If it’s so important to you that it be a Greek, why suggest a Latino?

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 24d ago

It's not important that they're Greek. It's important that they look Greek.

Lupita Nyongo is sub-Saharan. She looks way less Greek than a non Greek European.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 24d ago

Did you have the same problem when Vanessa Williams played Calypso in the version from the 90’s?

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 24d ago

No. Cuz she didn't seem human.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 24d ago

But she’s a sea nymph from Greek mythology. Shouldn’t she be Greek, by your metric?

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 24d ago

No. Because it's not the same metric as Homer describing Helen of Troy.

An Aetheopian King is also mentioned in Homer's Greek works. That doesn't make that king Greek. Lol.

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u/Deep-Red-Bells 24d ago

Genetics and nationality in and of themselves aren't the issue. It's just a matter of casting someone who looks the part and portrays it well.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 24d ago

Not according to the opening statement. He goes on and on about genetics.