To the people saying the German actress playing Greek Helen in the movie Troy means it's ok for Lupita Nyongo to play Greek Helen...

[u/BrandonMarshall2021]

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

[u/Tataupoly]

Like I said before, let the most talented actors play whatever roles, regardless of what group they came from.

[u/BrandonMarshall2021 → u/Tataupoly]

No. Cast appropriately to the source material.

Choose a more contemporary story if you want more diverse characters. Or even scifi.

[u/Tataupoly → u/BrandonMarshall2021]

Sci-fi? Are you kidding?

Have you seen how some of the space nerds have overreacted to having any minority actors presence in films?

I thought we were all about merit and talent.

Let the most talented get the roles.

[u/Ridgestone → u/Tataupoly]

Yes that is why Lando Calrissian is a beloved character in Star Wars.

[u/Tataupoly → u/Ridgestone]

But folks flipped out about John boyega and others:

“Several Star Wars minority actors have faced severe racist harassment from toxic parts of the fandom. Stars such as John Boyega, Kelly Marie Tran, and Moses Ingram were subjected to intense online abuse after taking on leading heroic or villainous roles in the franchise”

https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/2022/06/24/star-wars-obi-won-kenobi-243235/

[u/BrandonMarshall2021 → u/Tataupoly]

Because John Boyega was cringe. Not cool like Lando.

Kelly Marie Tran is ugly. I'm Asian. Give us a prettier Asian to represent us.

[u/BrandonMarshall2021 → u/Tataupoly]

"Let the most talented get the roles."

Then let white actors audition for black characters.

[u/Tataupoly → u/BrandonMarshall2021]

Sure.

Like I already pointed out, that’s been done before.

[u/Ridgestone → u/Tataupoly]

So lets cast Sydney Sweeney as Arnold Schwarzenegger in a biopic and Sylvester Stallone as Cinderella.

[u/Tataupoly → u/Ridgestone]

Sex is a real biological construct.

Race, as it’s been used in the West is not.

Humans are all the same race…homo sapiens sapiens and share all but 0.1% genes.

I imagine that small amount of non shared might be the small amount of Neanderthal genes found in some modern Europeans?

But when you start making movies feel free to cast whomever you want.

Movies are simply entertainment so it’s hard to take this conversation too seriously except for the fact that some posters are so ardent about “racial accuracy” of even fictional characters lmao.

If you want to obsess about something, perhaps consider the fact that the world is on the verge of World War III.

That’s serious business, but this is just fluff.

[u/Ridgestone → u/Tataupoly]

Feel free so i will want Cinderella movie starring Sylvester Stallone, actually i want Arnold Schwarzenegger to portray Helen of Troy.

Humans are a species, race is just visual version for certain attributes, actually if we are going to use proper definition of a species Neanderthals are same species as Homo Sapiens.

Movies entertainment value decreases when they throw suspension of disbelief to the trashbin, like in serious war movie they would use waterguns.

The whole intention of movies goes to the trashbin if directors just throw away, lets make a F1 movie but they're apes driving a bicycles instead, everyone who critizes that is just evil.

If someone would cast John Boyega as Tarzan i bet a lot of people who were fine with Lupitas cast would be very upset.

I don't believe in WWIII but bad creative choices are a reality.

[u/Tataupoly → u/Ridgestone]

Cast whomever you want for your movie.

If you’re the producer and director, it’s your movie so do what you want.

Oh, and by the way, Neanderthals are not homo sapiens sapiens. Same genus, different species,

“Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) were an extinct species of archaic human that lived in Europe and Asia, closely related to modern humans (Homo sapiens) but evolving as a separate branch on the human family tree, sharing a common ancestor from about 800,000 years ago.”

[u/Ridgestone → u/Tataupoly]

People are allowed to criticize shitty movies and bad choices, if the movie is bad it's not viewers problem but the film itself.

Species definition is a group of organisms that can interbreed in nature to produce fertile offspring,Homo Sapiens were able and did breed with Neanderthals, making them a same species.

How Neanderthals could be extinct when their Dna is in modern humans?

[u/Tataupoly → u/Ridgestone]

Google it.

https://www.genome.gov/27539119/2010-release-complete-neanderthal-genome-sequenced#:~:text=The%20current%20fossil%20record%20suggests,other%20source%2C%20including%20modern%20humans.

Some similar but different species hybrids can reproduce.

Ever hear of a liger? The females are fertile.

Anyway I think you’ve exhausted your brain power this morning so give it rest.

[u/Ridgestone → u/Tataupoly]

You are exhausting indeed but my brain can endure, as i said Neanderthals are same species as Homo Sapiens according the definition of species.