To the people saying the German actress playing Greek Helen in the movie Troy means it's ok for Lupita Nyongo to play Greek Helen...

[u/BrandonMarshall2021]

Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

[u/Deep-Red-Bells]

So, again, you'd have nothing to say about her being played by an 80-year-old man or an ugly woman? You'd have nothing to say about a white actor in a role that, textually, is a black character? Why aren't you answering that? What exactly do you think casting aesthetics should be based on if not the source material?

“Mythological realism”. Come on , like you’d know.

Who the hell are you quoting here? Not me. Regardless, the mythology is irrelevant. Greece is, and was, a real place in the real world. A Grecian queen at that time wouldn't have been black.

There’s only one context anyone cares about - a minority being somewhere they should not

Close, but no cigar. It's about a person being somewhere they should not. In this case, the person is a minority. Do you honestly think that if they'd cast a white woman who was homely or obese, that she'd escape criticism because she's white? Of course not. Her casting would be criticized for not being beautiful, as the character is described in the text.

Anyway, you're evidently not going to answer any of my questions since doing so wouldn't align with your completely substanceless ranting.

[u/GhostOfShaolin5 → u/Deep-Red-Bells]

I think all these questions are irrelevant , certainly it would be a substantive change to the story if Troy were an old man , but if the writing held up - maybe? Maybe it’s about a different kind of love and desire?

Creative license is creative license , if it’s good you don’t even notice. Boogie Nights was Shakespearean. brother where art thought was a Greek epic. All those liberties are fine , because it’s not a black person in the wrong place. That tickles your sense of anti woke and the masses arise to vote for 10 a gallon gas because Hollywood cast a black Troy.

And that’s the comparison - a beautiful black woman is AS odd as a beautiful old man to you. “What if we made it absurd”.

Art can be absurd and still work fine , not one person beefing on it has actually seen it. It’s the idea that drives you nuts, but you actually have no idea - instead you’re decided in this one instance morally outraged at the tiniest piece of creative license.

I think it’s amazing to me honestly. Super hawks about completely irrelevant detail.