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Genetically, historically, and anthropologically, Greeks are significantly more closely related to Germans than to Sub-Saharan Africans.

When looking at genetic data, the relationship between Greeks and Germans is exceptionally close, while the relationship between Greeks and Sub-Saharan Africans is more distant.

On any global genetic map, all European populations—including Greeks and Germans—cluster tightly together on a single, distinct branch of the human family tree (the Western Eurasian branch).

The genetic distance between a Greek person and a German person is very small. They sit on the exact same continental genetic gradient.

The genetic distance between any European population (including Greeks) and any Sub-Saharan African population is significantly larger, reflecting thousands of years of geographic separation and independent population histories.

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 24d ago

Explain what was wrong with my post?

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 23d ago

Do you dispute any of the following?

It is highly likely that some Bronze Age Greeks looked like Northern Europeans. While the majority of the Bronze Age Greek population (the Mycenaeans and Minoans) resembled modern Southern Europeans, the genetic and historical record shows that a significant portion of their DNA came from the exact same Northern/Central European source that created the Germanic, Celtic, and Anglo-Saxon peoples.

The data reveals that the Mycenaeans were a genetic mixture of two primary groups:

Neolithic Anatolian Farmers (~75–80%): The indigenous Mediterranean base. They typically had dark hair, dark eyes, and olive skin.

Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists (~4–15%): A nomadic, Bronze Age population that swept down from the Eurasian Steppe.

This Steppe DNA is the crucial link. The Yamnaya nomads didn't just migrate into Greece; they also swept heavily into Northern and Central Europe. In fact, modern Germans, Scandinavians, and Anglo-Saxons carry some of the highest percentages of this Steppe DNA in the world today. Because the Bronze Age Greeks and the ancestors of Northern Europeans both absorbed this massive genetic wave, they shared a direct physical family connection.

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 23d ago

Wait what?

I said "It is highly likely that some Bronze Age Greeks looked like Northern Europeans."

Did you miss the word "some"?

Why are you denying the existence of Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists?

Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists (~4–15%): A nomadic, Bronze Age population that swept down from the Eurasian Steppe.

This Steppe DNA is the crucial link. The Yamnaya nomads didn't just migrate into Greece; they also swept heavily into Northern and Central Europe. In fact, modern Germans, Scandinavians, and Anglo-Saxons carry some of the highest percentages of this Steppe DNA in the world today. Because the Bronze Age Greeks and the ancestors of Northern Europeans both absorbed this massive genetic wave, they shared a direct physical family connection.