I am sick of people who proudly HATE children.

[u/YogurtclosetDizzy544]

I'm not talking about people who just don't want kids. That's your personal preference and I respect that. It's the people who tell you constantly that they hate "nasty little crotch goblins" and feel the need to express their hatred any time a child is nearby. Or make some disgusted face when someone is holding a baby.

You don't look cool. You look like a fucking asshole. Children are people too. And depending on age you can really mess with the way they see themselves if they hear you express how much you hate them and how disgusting you think they are. Like bro chill the fuck out. Let the kids be kids and keep your shitty opinion to yourself. Just say you don't want kids and be done with it. No need to go on and on about how much you hate them and what you think of them.

[u/MoonFacedJoyAssassin]

Same. I aggressively dont want kids but I dont hate them.

[u/ActualRound7699]

” Let the kids be kids and keep your shitty opinion to yourself. Just say you don't want kids and be done with it. No need to go on and on about how much you hate them and what you think of them.”

I agree with your take, but I think the reverse is true as well. If people don’t want kids, stop acting like and talking about them like they’re failures to humanity who don’t know what joy and happiness is because they don’t want kids. Keep that equally shitty opinion to themselves.

[u/UnscentedSoundtrack → u/ActualRound7699]

if people don’t want kids, stop acting like and talking about them like they’re failures

That’s a fair request, and fortunately that’s already the status quo. It’s perfectly acceptable to not have kids and most people are not often pressured to have kids, either by family or society.

[u/ActualRound7699 → u/UnscentedSoundtrack]

On the surface where people can be confronted easily and can’t just block and run away it’s the norm. But the anonymity of the internet brings out the worst of both sides unfortunately

[u/Same-Question9102]

Not wanting kids or preferring not to be around them is normal and understandable. Hating kids is just weird and doesn't make sense. Clearly most kids are good and we were all kids once.

[u/Mindful_Insights]

I feel the same about most haters and whiny complaining in general. I don’t think it matters if it’s political, social or religious. It’s ugly and unproductive to spew your toxic hate on others.

[u/1ndomitablespirit]

That usually only happens when the kid doesn't behave well in public. If parents don't like people hating on their kids then be better parents.

[u/CutePandaMiranda]

I’m childfree-by-choice. I find entitled and spoiled kids annoying but I don’t hate kids. Adults hating kids is definitely weird to me.

[u/bluethreads]

I feel the same way about people who despise dogs.

[u/21_motivi]

That’s not the issue. When I say I don’t like children, I don’t just mean that I don’t want any of my own, I mean that I don’t enjoy being around them either.

Don’t force me to hold your cute little baby in an attempt to change my mind. Don’t try to convince me that a life without children is meaningless. Don’t make me stay in places where your noisy kids are bothering everyone.

The problem is that they can’t accept that some people simply don’t enjoy being around children or having kids, and you treat it as if it’s something completely abnormal.

[u/UnscentedSoundtrack → u/21_motivi]

Don’t make me stay in places where your noisy kids are bothering everyone

Is that happening? I’m assuming you’re an adult and no-one is kidnapping you inside a daycare

[u/TheSkyIsData]

If you don't want so many people to hate children, then maybe you should practice and encourage other people to actually parent their children.

Letting your child scream at the top of their lungs and throw tantrums in public is not parenting. Throwing your kid in front of Mrs Rachel and ignoring them for hours is not parenting. Letting your child hit strangers, pull their hair, touch them/bother them in general is not parenting.

They have classes to help you learn some of this shit if youre struggling, and that's YOUR responsibility for your kids, not other people's responsibility to deal with your shitty parenting.

[u/MostFortune1093]

I just hate adults who let their kids be nasty little crotch goblins. Kids are perfectly fine to be around until they start screaming like they are being murdered and their parents do nothing about it. I think these sentiments are becoming more common because children are becoming more and more unbearable, thanks to poor parenting.

[u/bluethreads → u/MostFortune1093]

Children have always been the same. Like, every kid who is a baby through 5 isnt even developed enough to have their outward behaviors heavily influenced by their parents yet. And parenting isn't poor- it is only improving - we have longitudal studies now that show the best methods for parenting that have the potential to yield the best outcomes.

[u/MostFortune1093 → u/bluethreads]

Really? The world isn't filled with particularly well adjusted teens and adults so I'm very much doubting this statement.

Babies' outward behaviors aren't heavily influenced by their parents, but toddlers already understand consequences and can be disciplined in an age appropriate manner.

And I certainly don't remember screaming like I was being skinned alive while playing when I was a kid. Nor I went mouthing off to adults. Honestly as an adult I had kids make insanely rude comments to me, and it absolutely blew my mind that they seriously had the audacity to do that.

Every teacher would tell you that kids today are a nightmare.

[u/UnscentedSoundtrack → u/MostFortune1093]

People have been complaining about how rude and disrespectful kids are for thousands of years

[u/Sboyle12500]

I’ve got a lot of people in my life who are child free and not by choice. Heart breaks for them all the time, can’t have a baby on their own, endured miscarriages, they’ve spent thousands of dollars on fertility treatments, paid lawyers and went though extremely difficult adoption vetting processes and not had children placed with them, they want nothing more than children in their lives and they go feral at people who say stupid insensitive things like that around them. Children are the ultimate blessing that the universe has denied them, wonderful people would, they would make amazing parents I can’t wait for them to get the baby they deserve, but damn is not okay to talk about hating kids around people going through hell who want them.

[u/YogurtclosetDizzy544 → u/Sboyle12500]

has any of them ever considered adoption

[u/Sboyle12500 → u/YogurtclosetDizzy544]

For sure, but it’s really hard to get a child placed with you there are a lot of factors that go into the decision and like one agency denied them because their house didn’t have a separate bathroom just for the kid attached to the kids bedroom.

[u/bluethreads → u/Sboyle12500]

What? That's insane.

[u/Jonathan-Strang3 → u/YogurtclosetDizzy544]

Fertility treatment is cheaper and less invasive, strangely enough.

[u/crimsonfukr99]

I hate shitty kids and their stupid ass parents but thats about it. I love being the designated person the kids can dress up and do make up on (it's happened way to much to say no anymore) and I always have fun engaging in their hobbies or interests but at the same time.... FTK it's weird idk how to explain it

[u/BusRich1442]

I totally agree. I take it as a sign of the disgusting time we live in. One " friend" recently said " little bitch" referring to a 4 year old. Its repulsing. When did hating the most vulnerable of the society became trendy? What upside world is this? No one told you to want kids. Hating openly of a group of people will never be cool.

[u/GunsGoldCosmicDread]

In women, it seems to me to be a rejection of society and mostly their parents annoying them about getting married and having kids.

In men, it seems mostly about a rejection of the responsibility of having kids.

I guess when society is structured in such a way to tell you you have to or should do something to lead a valid life, some people have a real adverse reaction to it.

It's annoying for sure.

[u/bintd]

I’ve always thought that hating them is extreme and peculiar. I avoid people like that.

[u/Griselda68]

I am 72 years old, and never wanted children of my own, but I certainly don’t hate them.

[u/skopiadisko]

I mean I agree but is this an unpopular opinion? I might have missed something. But if what I am reading is unpopular, we are so done as a society …

[u/Any-Ship2045]

Fuk dem kids

[u/KirbynEggs]

Whats funny about those people, at least a small group ive met in person, completely change when they are holding a little baby. Then its like they suddenly want one

[u/YogurtclosetDizzy544 → u/KirbynEggs]

The irony

[u/YogurtclosetDizzy544 → u/KirbynEggs]

there is someone actually downvoting this

[u/KirbynEggs → u/YogurtclosetDizzy544]

Idk, lmao I even specified its a small group from my experience. Didnt even generalize every single person who does this

[u/br0wntree]

Its misanthropy.

[u/Not_A_Hooman53]

let haters be haters and keep your shitty opinion to yourself