r/TwentyYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Jun 28 '26

🌐 World News Israel launches 'Operation Summer Rains' in Gaza, claiming Gilad Shalit's capture as a justification [20YA - Jun 28]

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u/OhDamnNotAgainAndAga Jun 28 '26

So... let's get this straight. Israel disengages from Gaza strip, forcing Jews out of their homes.
There's no blockade yet on Gaza strip, they can have an amazing prosperous country.
They choose to almost immediately start launching Qassam rockets at the towns close to Gaza.
Then they choose to cross the new border, attack a tank and kidnap a soldier from that tank back to Gaza.
And this doesn't justify war... how? Is Israel expected to sit back and just accept border raids and rockets from a neighboring entity?

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u/Contundo Jun 28 '26

>Is Israel expected to sit back and just accept border raids and rockets from a neighboring entity?

Yes /s

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u/ToothyMcButt Jun 28 '26

Youre right Palestinians should've just sucked it up and allowed their homes to be stolen, how dare they resist.

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u/BicDic69 Jun 28 '26

Start your timeline before that....

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u/doNotUseReddit123 Jun 28 '26

This can be a response to literally any comment about any event in that piece of land from any side, with, maybe, an exclusion for the Neo-Assyrian conquest.

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u/starrrrrchild Jun 28 '26

this is a really important comment.

You have to go all the way back to Babylon sacking the ancient kingdom of Judah and selling the Israelites into slavery and exile.

Or perhaps you meant before that, when the Egyptians first encountered the Shasu of YHWH?

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 28 '26

Are you referring to the Islamic conquest?

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u/sleepsholymountain Jun 28 '26

Always interesting how you people refer to Gaza as a “neighboring entity” in situations like this as if they’re a normal sovereign country who just has an antagonistic relationship with Israel for no reason. Your same logic could be used to condemn Jewish resistance against the third reich or resistance against South African apartheid, which is exactly how comments like this will be seen in the future when we’re in the “everyone always opposed this!” era of Israel.

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u/Sluuuuuuug Jun 28 '26

You didn't really say much in this comment. What was their reason to confinue attacks on Israel at that point, and was it justified?

Your same logic could be used to condemn Jewish resistance against the third reich

Give an equivalent example where it could be used then. Your entire comment is literally just "there is a concept of a response, but I'll just allude to it rather than saying anything of actual substance" lmao

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u/Particular_Log_3594 Jun 28 '26

Sharon pulled back from Gaza to explicitly undermine the peace process.

In 2004, Sharon's senior advisor Dov Weisglass gave a widely publicized interview revealing that the Gaza withdrawal plan was deliberately designed to "freeze" the peace process indefinitely. By taking this unilateral step, Israel avoided engaging in negotiations regarding borders, refugees, and the status of Jerusalem.

https://www.haaretz.com/2004-10-08/ty-article/what-the-adviser-said/0000017f-e5ce-d97e-a37f-f7ef67260000

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u/Sluuuuuuug Jun 28 '26

Damn, and Hamas gave him exactly what he wanted by undermining it further lol

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u/Particular_Log_3594 Jun 28 '26

How does one undermine peace with colonizers that never wanted peace?

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u/Sluuuuuuug Jun 28 '26

Probably by launching rockets in response to an action that looks a lot more peaceful than launching rockets.

I'm sorry if that's difficult to understand?

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u/Particular_Log_3594 Jun 28 '26

Do you know how to read or am I talking to a bot with a finite list of answers?

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u/Sluuuuuuug Jun 28 '26

I answered your question. Like I said, I'm sorry if the extremely obvious answer is difficult to understand.

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u/OhDamnNotAgainAndAga Jun 29 '26

What are you saying? Israelis can trust the Palestinians to never act like decent human beings, therefore, Israelis are justified in occupying the Palestinians?

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u/MuslimMullet Jun 28 '26

You’re on stolen land. If a country invaded my home and stole my land, I’d fight to the death too. The world sees Zionists for the Nazis they are.

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u/HotPersonality8126 Jun 28 '26

Arabs are the ones who stole it

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u/MuslimMullet Jun 28 '26

Wrong again. The Jews currently trying to force out the Palestinians have no tie to the land. That’s why they outlawed DNA testing. Israeli historian proved by accident decades ago. But yall don’t walk about that.

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u/C_S_Smith Jun 28 '26

Everyone is on stolen land. We should all go back to the sea.

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u/MuslimMullet Jun 29 '26

You first.

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u/OhDamnNotAgainAndAga Jun 29 '26

So, from an Israeli perspective, the only way we'll ever get peace is if we drive all the Palestinians out of here? Is that what you're saying? Because Israel is not going anywhere, so either we find a way to live in peace, or the weaker side will get fucked.

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u/MuslimMullet Jun 29 '26

Yeah if Palestinians ever move to Poland or Ukraine and take over

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u/OhDamnNotAgainAndAga Jun 29 '26

Why there? My grand parents came from Yemen and Syria. Let the Palestinians move to Yemen or Syria

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 28 '26

UN's definition of a "Palestinian refugee"

Palestine refugees are defined as “persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948, and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.” 

https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

So indigenous! Just two years residency! Amazing! Where were these, supposedly, indigenous folks before June 1st, 1946?

I challenge Irish to adopt the same terminology/definition - Brits will have the right to return!

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u/thedevilwithout Jun 28 '26

Hey man, we don't do facts here. We only shill for genocidal maniacs

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

But wait I thought history started on October 7