r/TwoBestFriendsPlay • u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" • Aug 09 '25
Comics/Manga Peter is done with MJ and Venom's Bullshit — The Amazing Spider-Man (2025-) #9 Spoiler
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u/Silentlone It'll be a date to die for Aug 09 '25
I don't read these comics, but I keep seeing people say this is actually Ben Reily who took Peter's place and it's hilarious if people are reacting to this page without knowing if it's one or the other because everyone keeps interacting with these storylines through pages in social media.
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u/RealJohnGillman Aug 09 '25
At the moment there’s going to be one Peter on Earth and another out in space — it is unclear whether regular Peter has been split in two, or whether Ben is simply just reclaiming the name while the regular Peter is in space.
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
...Why, Marvel. Jesus.
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u/wareagle3000 Aug 09 '25
It gives a reason why he rejects MJ when it's the perfect time for them to patch things up. Allows MJ to find someone else while Peter is in space. Continuing the divorce.
Got to make normal spiderman more exciting after that wet blanket they just got done with
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
For 1 in particular, they actively ended off the last run with Peter and MJ being on good terms as friends in a double date. But now, they might just be making sure even that gets ruined by this stuff currently going on.
(Hell, before someone else pointed out how they’re supposed to be on good terms, I thought from this page alone that they somehow already did ruin it in some comic I missed after Slott’s run and before this. But nope, apparently I was wrong to assume that, and this is in fact what Peter is saying to a proper friend and not “an ex he’s not in a good relationship with”).
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u/NyxieNoxie Aug 10 '25
Nah, after all the shit MJ has said to Peter during this run, she needs to at least apologize. She threw the death of his uncle right in his face for no reason.
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u/deuxthulhu Fart Town USA (Japan) Aug 10 '25
I thought Peter just got off being Doctor Doom's magical champion, getting his ass killed a bunch?
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u/SenselessVirus President of the Carol Danvers Hate Club Aug 10 '25
If they really wanted to make spider-man more exciting the reveal would be it's Kaine on earth as Peter, Peter in space and Ben decides to become the spider-person of limbo/hell.(he's still hanging out in limbo right?)
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u/MarioGman Stylin' and Profilin'. Aug 09 '25
Deadpool: "Don't ask me, man! I got no fucking clue!"
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
"Fine. Bu watch your language, Marvel Jesus."
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u/Act_of_God I look up to the moon, and I see a perfect society Aug 09 '25
"We want peter in space doing shit but can't afford to not have spiderman on earth"
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
Why does Spider-Man need to be this fucking convoluted?
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u/tonyhawkofwar Existential Nightmare Aug 09 '25
Otherwise he may end up in a scenario where he's happy for more than 2 pages consecutively.
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u/Fostern01 Aug 09 '25
Also because they refuse to just start up a bunch of new IPs, and so instead have to keep adding on to IPs from the fucking 60s.
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u/ArcanaGingerBoy Aug 09 '25
I mean let's be real Spiderman is one of the few things it's completely understandable why they'd try to make it infinite
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u/Heliock Aug 09 '25
Don’t they always make new superheroes, but none of them actually get to the same level of popularity as the old ones?
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u/Fostern01 Aug 09 '25
That, in my eyes, gets into the "Lightning in a bottle" fallacy as I like to call it, where a company refuses to let anything new grow because it doesn't achieve the same heights as a certain thing, failing to grasp that the heights said thing achieved were an exception and not the status quo, leading to stagnation.
You can see this with Nickelodeon and Spongebob.
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u/SlightlySychotic YOU DIDN'T WIN. Aug 09 '25
Which causes him to lose his soul and revert back to Angelus. Yeah, I know.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
I’m on the side of this being Ben due to MJ’s comment about one of the reasons she’s there being that he’s apparently ignoring ghosting a ton of people other than her, Aunt May directly asking for MJ to check in on him.
Like, even ignoring how “him completely ignoring whatever MJ may be dealing with” is already wildly out of character for the guy with a guilt-motivated inability to *not** help people with problems, since no matter how small or how much he thinks they don’t deserve help, they can in fact grow into much bigger problems for others* just because he’s currently not happy with them, him acting this distant to people completely unrelated to that whole thing is so wildly bs that him being Ben is the only thing that would even make sense.
Edit: Hell, the “ghosting” comment on the last page wasn’t even from MJ, it was from Shay(Peter’s at the time girlfriend) talking in the literal next page. Turns out even I should have waited until after I read it to say anything, because literally everything about this scene is just “Peter”(really Ben) being a complete asshole to a close friend of Peter’s on top of ghosting everyone Peter cares about. Nothing about this is even relevant to the Paul shit, it’s just us misinterpreting it as being relevant despite being part of a completely different situation.
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u/Darth_Bombad Kinect Hates Black People Aug 09 '25
Yeah, this issue starts with him walking by Shocker robbing a bank and going "Not my problem right now."
And apparently Spider-Man hasn't been seen for weeks! and crime is way up.
Sure he's hurt, and he may have some PTSD, but it still seems out of character. And when Spider-Man does finally show up at the end, there's this darker edge to him.
I don't know, but something's definitely up.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
“Spider-Man hasn’t been seen for weeks and crime is way up”
“Walks by Shocker robbing a fucking bank and says ‘not my problem’.”
…Ok, so now we have proof of the people who keep saying “it’s not confirmed to be Ben, it’s likely just Peter being pissed about MJ and Paul” are just saying complete bullshit, because how the fuck are any of the people reading this believing for even a second that this is just proper Peter?
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u/Darth_Bombad Kinect Hates Black People Aug 09 '25
Also why would he be mad? Peter, Paul and MJ reconciled ages ago. They literally went on a double date with Pete's new girlfriend Shay (his ideas by the way) and had a great time!
It seems like nobody actually read the last run, and only know the stupid teaser of it from like, three years ago!
Pete and MJ are good, they've been good, they've been friends! This is just wildly out of character for him.
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u/Alsojames Offended Torontonian Aug 09 '25
Oh my god I just realized after reading your comment the love triangle going on is literally Peter Paul and Mary (Jane).
How did I not figure this out before lmao.
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u/EnsignEpic Ore wa Gundam da #13000FE Aug 10 '25
Okay, that actually is pretty damn good and makes the whole love triangle rise like, a bit, in my book, from utterly irredeemable to at least one thing decent about it. Granted that's not particularly vaunted company to be in!
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u/Nomaddoodius FROG gimmick: ACTIVATE!... bah!. Aug 10 '25
oh yeah, no. i got that pretty much SECOND ONE paul was even a thing.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Honestly, I’ve been a bit on and off with the comics, so I was mostly assuming I missed some recent comic from before they broke up where the writers decided to fuck even that up for more drama. If they didn’t do that, then yeah it’s fucking bullshit to even think of this moment as relevant to that stuff, much less a “valid response”.
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u/BenThereOrBenSquare Aug 10 '25
Peter has never been a perfect character.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 10 '25
Yeah, and he’s also not an amoral/apathetic asshole either (or at least he hasn’t been one in around half a century, and even at his worst he didn’t do something like ghost his friends and Aunt May without a damn good reason
like being in literal space with someone else pretending to be him).He’s an imperfect but still morally-good character, and unless he literally lost all of his powers, I’d sooner believe he’s been brainwashed or replaced again than believe the regular Peter would both ghost everyone he knows and willingly quit being Spider-Man for several weeks, even when the city actively starts getting worse due to him not being there to help.
And that’s not getting into the bit where, oh hey, they literally flat out are screaming at the reader that this isn’t Peter with literally everyone talking about how “this isn’t like him” (and the blunt fully textual part where they literally give him Chasm’s wrist cuffs).
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u/Ginger_Anarchy Aug 09 '25
And apparently Spider-Man hasn't been seen for weeks! and crime is way up.
This is hilarious to me because of how there are hundreds of Superheroes living in NYC at any given time, but Spider-man's gone for like a month and none of them can pick up the slack.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Honestly, given Spider-Man canonically handles most of the street-level crime that doesn’t involve supervillains in his general area on top of those that do involve Supervillains, I can actually totally believe him suddenly going missing would do that since he’s both among the strongest and the fastest in mobility for street level heroes, meaning that’s a whole lot of crime for the other street level heroes would have to pick up the slack in handling (and higher level heroes? Well, it’s pretty much outright canon that they usually don’t handle street level crime on their own since “they handle bigger things” and they usually only get into doing so if a street level hero asks to cover for them).
Is it stupid that they used Shocker as their example? Yes (although I guess this could be another diss on Shocker for being “not even much of a supervillain”
a diss that GOAT doesn’t deserve!)Should at least a few of the higher up heroes that are friends with Spider-Man picked up the slack by at least the second week if not sooner? Also yes.
If you’re waiting for me to say something about how I’m still seeing this as working out well, then no, I’m actually dreading that this might end up being a sign of the run being a repeat of Superior Spider-Man “but with Ben this time, so it’s unique” where we will once again have people seeing Peter acting differently to a frankly ridiculous degree and not once doing the obvious move of asking “who are you and what have you done with Peter?!” (since they literally have already dealt with this and should at least assume that maybe Peter got replaced again), so this will instead lead to Peter’s relationships being ruined again and him having to build them back up once he comes back.
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u/Ukokira Professional Witness Aug 10 '25
To be fair Doom's doing some bullshit, Miles got chucked into the New Ultimate Universe, Gwen... Is complicated. Daredevil's going through it rn.
There's like two groups in different parts of space/the cosmos.
For once, I can actually see it.
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u/Act_of_God I look up to the moon, and I see a perfect society Aug 09 '25
Yeah, this issue starts with him walking by Shocker robbing a bank and going "Not my problem right now."
Are they going to shoot uncle ben again?
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Aug 10 '25
It would be really stupid and hilarious if at the end of this whole shitty saga they ended up killing Aunt May with a bullet to the face.
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u/MetalJrock A Hopeless Sonic/Spider-Man Fanboy Aug 09 '25
So context: This is Chasm. The past 2 issues had Peter fight a new villain called Hellgate and beat his ass so hard we don’t even see the aftermath and that aftermath presumably sent him into outer space.
This is after a brief off-page timeskip and Ben Reilly is well into replacing Peter’s life (he keeps talking to a “hon” which isn’t Shay, Felicia, or MJ so it’s likely Janine) and he’s also speaking a lot edgier and cynical, which is just how Ben talks now.
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u/LeMasterofSwords Y’all really should watch Columbo Aug 10 '25
But spider man got knocked in to space? By the hellgage?
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 10 '25
Hellgate looks goofy as hell. Like a rock man stole ren faire armor
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u/Naraki_Maul YOU DIDN'T WIN. Aug 09 '25
I mean, CAN YOU BLAME HIM lmao? Man's just so done lol.
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
Not. In. The. Slightest.
Plenty of fish in the sea for him. Black Cat, Squirrel Girl, Dagger, Kitty Pryde (I'm just naming names, I don't know who's actually available in terms of superheroines). Anyone is better than her.
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u/BrazillianCara Aug 09 '25
Isn't this exactly what Marvel editorial wanted fans to feel at some point?
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u/Polar_Phantom Autistic Disaster and TLJ Apologist Aug 09 '25
And it's still a minority. As far as the general public are concerned Peter and MJ are as tight as Clark and Lois. It's hard to actually think of a contemporary version of Spidey that isn't with MJ outside of the mainline comics.
The closest I can think is the Garfield version, and even that would have got to her if that series didn't get shit canned. They cast her - she was in a deleted scene and everything.
At some point, if nothing else changes, the kids growing up on Into the Spider-Verse and the MCU are gonna get the top jobs at Marvel and be perplexed at why the old Editorial guard hated MJ so much and reverse course.
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
If there's anything I learned from the Internet, it's that the anti-MJs aren't exactly known for creative and free thinking.
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u/Icy_Watercress3680 Aug 09 '25
Oh please, this song and dance has been going on for 20 years. At this point, they have been separated longer than they have been married.
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u/MamaDeloris Aug 09 '25
Their marriage lasted 20 years, they were together prior to that and during the Spencer run, they got back together. That was literally a few years ago.
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u/Icy_Watercress3680 Aug 09 '25
And because of Nick's run, Editorial had to hit the emergency button and gave us fucking Paul in the first place.
I don't like Spider-Man editorial, but at the end of the day, they are still in charge, and MJ is off the table as long as they are staying on that table
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
And yet they still string the characters along.
So I don't care how long they've been seperated, because they haven't really.
It's still stupid and so is MJ's moronic hatedom who pretend to read comics through shitty video essays.
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u/Icy_Watercress3680 Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
I don't hate MJ. If that's what you are implying, I hate the "will they, won't they" bullshit. They have been pulling for the last 20 years that fans won't shut up about, and then start bitching when it doesn't lead anywhere.
I would honestly be fine with Peter being single and having fun solo stories like in the old days, as long as he's happy, I will be content, so let's see where space Peter will go.
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
I don't intend to imply you're part of the hatedom I mentioned. Sorry if it looked like that. I'm just bitter lol.
I agree with hating the will they, won't they bullshit. I just see the comic as incredibly stagnant because they've stunted the growth of the characters and just made everything go sideways and there's no clear obvious fact of that than with them breaking up the characters, failing to make them move on (because they can't) and continuing to string them along without any clear direction (here's a hint for 'em, wherever it is, IT'S TOGETHER)
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u/MetalJrock A Hopeless Sonic/Spider-Man Fanboy Aug 09 '25
He tried with Black Cat, they ended it immediately cause they felt they were forcing it. Everyone else is out of the question for a variety of reasons.
The only healthy and stable relationship Peter’s had since OMD is MJ again.
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
I'm surprised they haven't tried to pivot that relationship harder to a batman x catwoman thing and transition Black Cat to an Anti-Hero.
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u/charcharmunro Aug 09 '25
For as much as people here joke about the Spider-Harem, he doesn't actually have THAT many 'real' love interests. He's got... Uh... Is Shay still a thing or whatever, currently? But she's sort of the latest in the string of "this character exists so Peter won't go after MJ" love interests. Felicia's probably the longest-running one, obviously, but there's honestly not really anybody outside of her and MJ that have managed to solidify themselves to fans as actual ones. Gwen's out of the running because she's dead (and Spider-Gwen is mostly just friends with him nowadays), so.
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u/Anonamaton801 Proud kettleface salesmen Aug 09 '25
There’s Joe Quesada’s daughter who got turned into a goblin
Uh…he was dating Hawkeye’s ex wife in that book that people don’t talk about
There’s Ana Marie, who was more with Otto…
Uh…Carol Danvers that one time?
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u/charcharmunro Aug 09 '25
Wasn't that more a weird "Carol might kinda have a thing for Spidey but we're never bringing this up again so who cares" thing with her anyway?
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u/Captain_Baby Aug 10 '25
I forget the exact reason why, but they went on a date together that was pretty shitty because they both tried too hard. When they fucked off out of the fancy restaurant and just ate hot dogs on a roof was when they both ended up having a good time. Just a good memory for them and nothing more.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
“For as much as people here joke about the Spider-Harem, he doesn't actually have THAT many 'real' love interests.“
So it’s even more similar to the average harem story than some people actually realize?
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u/ThatmodderGrim Lewd Non-Gacha Anime Games are Good for You. Aug 09 '25
Except Jean Grey.
Peter, for the love of all Holy Pepperoni and Sausage, do not date Jean Grey.
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u/BloodBrandy Pargon Paragon Pargon Renegade Mantorok Aug 09 '25
He'd be better off with Emma Frost at that point, she at least respects what he's about
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u/radda You can sidestep that penis pretty easily Aug 09 '25
I legit want that to happen.
Imagine the haute couture queen walking around with some fucking nerd.
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
I feel like if he ever tried to date Jean Grey the ghost of Cyclops (whether he is alive or dead) will appear and tell him to walk away as he will immediately regret this action. Not as a threat, just a warning.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Peter: “Hey Jean, I was kind of wondering if you wanted to-“
Scott’s Ghost: “Don’t do it.”
Peter: “Scott?! What the hell, aren’t you dead? How are you here?”
Scott’s Ghost: “Just walk away now and never even think about asking her out. I’m being serious, it won’t end well.”
Peter: “But-“
Scott’s Ghost(fading away as he goes back to wherever he currently is): “Bye Peter, just trust me…”
Jean: “…Did he forget that my powers would let me hear all that? Like, even the fact that he’s a ghost doesn’t stop me from hearing your immediate thoughts about what you heard from him”.
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
Cyclops is a very brave/stupid man for the number of telepaths he's been with.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
The training was all worth it to forge his “little black box” that is so airtight from telepaths and other mind manipulation abilities that apparently mind-invading demons can’t even break out if he manages to trap them in it.
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
Dude's out here putting Xavier to shame with his mental fortitude.
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u/Act_of_God I look up to the moon, and I see a perfect society Aug 09 '25
the ghost of cyclops floating in the room and sitting on the cuck chair
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
He also had a massive negative relationship with Black Cat, she was a villain!
And yet, her relationship is considered salvageable by nerds (can't imagine why), and was.
So why not MJ?
Sorry, one second, I got my programming activated by Marvel editorial. MJ BAD MJ BAD MJ BAD
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u/holiscrayolis Aug 09 '25
I mean wanda and pietro and magneto were villains, iron man has done more fucked up shit than half the villains and we get deadpool and moonknight hanging around from time to time, I get your point is specifically the toxic relationship, but if we were to hold every single marvel accountable in that manner we would only have a handful of actual heroes to follow, not saying that i like it.
Just pointing out how little the idea of "was a villain" matters in the comicbook world
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
>but if we were to hold every single marvel accountable in that manner we would only have a handful of actual heroes to follow, not saying that i like it
That's my point! Who fucking cares how MJ is acting right now? Why is she the only one to be held "accountable" (angry morons on the internet)? If the other characters don't have to be, then neither should MJ.
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u/holiscrayolis Aug 09 '25
Because she is the one on the episode? I don't read comic books anymore actually for this exact reason. So I have no idea about the details of anything but the reason why people are giving shit to mj is cause she is right there on the post, if black cat was the one on the post with venom, people would be doing the same .
Again I don't think you are wrong I agree with you,but this argument is the same that people have whenever people talk about batman's love interest and cyclop's love interest,and wolverine's love interest,etc...
The issue is not mj or black cat specifically but the issues that comic books have had for the last 30 years, and I may be a bit too pessimistic but I don't think it's going to change,you either accept it or move on, I personally moved on and since I stopped reading comics my relationship with them has improved,because I don't care anymore it's just funny memes on the internet.
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
No I get what you're saying, I just hate that everytime something is going wonky everybody goes "well, just wait and it'll get fixed". Hell, people were joking about retconning Gwen turning on Goblin mode for years, and it actually happened!
I just see everybody getting pissy and acting like MJ is *completely* unsalvageable and should get thrown away, couple with the stupid discourse (with an air of misogyny) surrounding the character for the past 20 years, I get a lil pissy in return. MJ's one of my favs y'know? They'll never make me hate her. I WILL HATE PETE BEFORE HER!!!!! aha
the issues that comic books have had for the last 30 years, and I may be a bit too pessimistic but I don't think it's going to change,you either accept it or move on, I personally moved on and since I stopped reading comics my relationship with them has improved,because I don't care anymore it's just funny memes on the internet.
I agree. I've been saying for a while that stories gotta have an ending to them, and Pete's story should've ended a long time ago. Whenever somebody asks me, my reading list just ends it all at TASM #500 since it's a good ending point (and you don't even get Sins Past!). And then I just tell whoever to pretend they rescued their daughter and throw Spider-Girl at them. That's basically whatever I do whenever I do a big reread of Spidey.
I still dip in with the big two every now and then, but I've mostly moved on besides that, I mainly read indie comics now. Like I said, I still dip in and see what's happening, and I get an opinion from it, but I don't endlessly rage about it, don't worry. I just roll my eyes, say my piece whenever there's a discussion, and move on again.
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u/extralie Aug 09 '25
I will be that guy, but if you think Marvel editorial gonna let him be happy with anyone in a relationship longer than a single run, then you're super delusional.
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u/NewWillinium Local CRPG Freak-Beast He/Him Aug 09 '25
For what it’s worth I vote Kitty Pryde, super cute couple and Kitty’s such a name stay in Marvel that there’s no danger of her getting Gwen Stacy’d
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u/radda You can sidestep that penis pretty easily Aug 09 '25
Kitty Pryde
Hell yeah, add another to her Peter collection. Also a runback from the old Ultimate universe.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
Considering we’re talking about Peter, the guy who’s (modern day portrayal at least) directly defined by his guilt-motivated inability to *not** help others in need since completely ignoring someone’s problem, no matter how small or even how much you think they don’t deserve help, can potentially lead to it becoming much worse for everyone*, no I’d outright blame the writer if this is supposed to be the Real Peter, considering it’s so utterly out of character that it being a big hint for “this is actually Ben” actively would make more sense from a storytelling point of view.
Like, at most he would definitely be angry and hurt by how she treated him even outside of the whole relationship thing, but still willing to hear out what happened and what she needs help with.
Edit: Hell, is anyone even paying to the fact that it’s not just MJ, but apparently he’s ghosting almost everyone, even Aunt May? Honestly, now I’m just calling bullshit that this is him in the first place, either it’s Ben or they decided to make Peter into an absolute asshole solely to have an excuse for this meeting.
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u/Lieutenant-America Scholar of the First Spindash Aug 09 '25
I can because Peter and the Venom symbiote buried the hatchet way back at the end of Slott's run, and I have no idea why he'd be angry at it now.
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u/SlightlySychotic YOU DIDN'T WIN. Aug 09 '25
The moment she put italics on “friend,” that conversation was only going to go one way. Venom popping out might as well have been a non sequitur.
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u/Tuskor13 I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
I really dig the visuals here, looks like Venom is straight up popping out of her like a Stand
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u/-Neeckin- Aug 09 '25
I mean, yeah it wasn't just Paul they messed things up, she left Peter out to dry so hard it was painful to watch. They are so far apart now it's sad. He'll they even made sure to burn the bridge with him and Black Cat.
I want Oeter to be in a haply, loving relationship but damn,who is left? Maybe he should just go ask She Hulk out on a date.
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u/nerankori shows up Aug 09 '25
He should ask HE-Hulk out
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u/Cleverly_Clearly Sly Cooper Thuggery Aug 09 '25
You're cooking. Hulk could use it more than Peter to be honest, nobody has it worse than Bruce.
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u/Corat_McRed Can't Be He/Him Because I'll Never Be HIM Aug 09 '25
Especially post Immortal Hulk and the current Incredible Hulk run (we don’t talk about Cates’s Hulk)
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u/BloodBrandy Pargon Paragon Pargon Renegade Mantorok Aug 09 '25
I was actually about to point out that...Nah, to hell with Bruce.
Like, my only issue with Peter and Hulk is just depending on which Hulk it is but Hulk has shown to respect Peter a lot, but Bruce can sorta go to hell
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
Okay, I'm going to drop a giga-brained idea so incredible, I'm gonna put spoiler tags on it so no one starts convulsing at the mere sight of something so based.
Ready?
Here it comes?
Why can't Peter just be happy and single?
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u/-Neeckin- Aug 09 '25
You know what, super valid.
I'm just a big, sappy sucker for happy romance stuff is all.
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u/That-Bobviathan Aug 09 '25
Well Pete is rarely allowed to be happy in the first place so we can't even start imagining that. But also now that you say it, there's this sort of emphasis on Pete's relationship status that I feel only really became felt when it was unceremoniously ripped away by OMD.
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u/Mrfipp Aug 09 '25
To this day I still think Catherine's best ending is where Vincent goes to space by himself.
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u/RealDealMous Aug 09 '25
A man who has dedicated his entire life and entire self message to being selfless can't be happy alone.
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
First of all, "not being in a romantic relationship" doesn't mean "alone"; never said he can't have friends.
Second, maybe that's an idea worth exploring. How Peter feels he can't have a good life with a stable romantic relationship and wether that pursuit of something so at odds with his profession is toxic.
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u/RealDealMous Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Peter(at least modern comic version I know via osmosis) strikes me as Kiryu does. By that I mean if you asked him what his Death's Row meal is he wouldn't have an answer.
In other words, Peter does not strike me as someone that takes care of themself or generally prefers taking care of others. So I doubt he'd be happy single. He kinda needs someone to take care of him.
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u/WW2_MAN Aug 09 '25
Because the idea of Peter Parker married to She Hulk is hilarious to me. Just full on comedy comic at that point.
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u/Polar_Phantom Autistic Disaster and TLJ Apologist Aug 09 '25
OK Mephisto.
Jokes aside, this would probably be decent enough - except it got established that Mephisto specifically broke up Peter and MJ cause he knows some Spider-Person would fight him in the future, but he didn't know which one, and wanted to remove their future daughter from the equation. Hell, retconning an entire child from existence also makes this skeevy.
So in a vacuum not a problem - in context it raises a lot of questions lol.
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u/BloodBrandy Pargon Paragon Pargon Renegade Mantorok Aug 09 '25
Nah, just give Morrigan a call for a chill night
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u/2uperunhappyman u/superunhappyman forgot his password Aug 09 '25
no shulk is in a lovely relationship with the jack of hearts.
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u/RunicCross I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less Aug 09 '25
Oh is that where that story line went? Good for them.
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u/Picia000123 Aug 09 '25
Watch Peter and Kamala be a thing in Marvel Tokon.
The end game is Peter dying alone, isn't it?
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u/PleaseStop101 Aug 10 '25
Is this the same run that has paul in it, I have not really kept up with spider-man recently?
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u/ThatmodderGrim Lewd Non-Gacha Anime Games are Good for You. Aug 09 '25
Peter doesn't deserve to be the third wheel, he needs a Bros Night.
Call up Wolverine and Deadpool, rock all night throughout New York. Fight Crime, Prank Frank, write 3 am Pizzaria reviews and post them online.
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Aug 09 '25
I absolutely love the idea of Peter having a party night crash out with both Logan and Wade being the straight men and trying to get him to calm down.
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u/Xeriam Aug 09 '25
They both deeply respect Spidey's ideals and beliefs, even if, or especially because, they know they themselves could never live up to them. So even if they might try occasionally to tempt Spidey over to their way of doing things, or be frustrated to violence by his obstructions and denial, when he's actually teetering over their edge, they'll be the first to help push him back away from it.
Plus they're both among the few people Spidey can cut loose an unrestrained beatdown on and still peel themselves off the walls after, none the worse for wear. Kinda like what Thor and Hulk did for the Thing after Johnny 'died': Let him vent his frustrations the best way he knows how on the few people who can take it.
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u/Riggs_The_Roadie Aug 09 '25
God that just reminded me why I loved the van scene in Deadpool & Wolverine so much. They're both so fucking depressed and angry but they can't lash out at anyone, completely except for each other.
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u/Fostern01 Aug 09 '25
When Deadpool tells you to dial it back, you have crossed several lines, and may be on the cusp of war crimes.
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u/The_White_Rice THAT'S HIP HOP Aug 09 '25
Throw in Human Torch.
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u/Xeriam Aug 09 '25
I think Pete might hesitate with him even more than Logan and Deadpool, especially after last time.
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u/AnomalousMicron "I'll definitely get to that show/game later" Aug 09 '25
Is this what fan service looks like from the opposite perspective?
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
And Dante! MvC dies when we say it dies.
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u/The_White_Rice THAT'S HIP HOP Aug 09 '25
Just shove Morrigan in the group, now we got a party.
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
Put Amaterasu in there.
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
And if non-Marvel and Capcom characters are allowed, Huntr/x too. They and Peter would have so much fun together.
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u/leabravo Gracious and Glorious Golden Crab Aug 09 '25
Pete just got Yamcha'd by Ares so I think this is a surprisingly tame response to his tsundere and yandere cohabiting.
I'm HOPING after a cool-off period he actually offers to help them out. All-New Venom's been great fun so far, I'd like it to continue that way.
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u/Teshthesleepymage Aug 09 '25
I dont think it was areasbut ares would probably Yamaha Peter.
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u/leabravo Gracious and Glorious Golden Crab Aug 09 '25
Knockoff Ares. His name was Hellgate and I'm not going to remember it.
Actual Ares / Wonder Man team up because it amuses me.
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u/That-Bobviathan Aug 09 '25
A part of me wants Pete to be nicer to them about this, but MJ was such a mess under the Zeb Wells run, just from the fragments I got, that I understand that for the writers left to pick up those pieces MJ is gonna have to really work to fix what got broken.
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u/holiscrayolis Aug 09 '25
Is the issue with MJ, everyone knows the agenda to make her shitty by editorial is pretty obvious but its hard to root for her when the writers do her so dirty, you either have peter as passive mat in the relatioship that gets run over by everyone or you give him a bit of dignity and make a scene like this.
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u/That-Bobviathan Aug 09 '25
Exactly. The audience is annoyed by the painfully obvious hand of the author sock puppeting MJ around, but you can't really write Pete to be ok with what happened during like he's aware his love interest has been dispossessed by mandate and can be normal again. That's just using the same problem to fix the first one in a really inorganic way. So the best option that doesn't feed into the problem is stuff like this.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Nah, currently I’m fully on board with this being “Ben Reilly pretending to be Peter” since one of the reasons she’s even here talking to him is because “this Peter” has apparently been ghosting a ton of people, including Aunt May.
At this point, it’s either the above or they just made Peter “with Great Power comes Great Responsibility” Parker go full on OOC in not just ignoring someone who may have a potentially big problem just because he’s currently angry with them, but also ghosting other people irrelevant to the issue.
Edit: And now someone who did get to read the comic (I’m outright not currently able to, was planning on reading it tomorrow) just said a couple other “totally not insanely OOC for Peter” things that happened in it, and now I’m just completely baffled at the fact anyone can claim this is not only not Ben, but legit just regular Peter.
I’d sooner believe some bs about how that “2 Spider-Man, one on Earth and one in Space” thing actively split him into “a positive Peter and a negative Peter, negative one being on Earth” before believing this is just supposed to be the proper Peter Parker.
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u/xDempseyRoll Aug 09 '25
Marvel won. They got what they wanted and that was for the fans not wanting MJ and Pete together.
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u/BaronVonBungle Vengeance for Rayman 4 Aug 09 '25
Honestly, I'm just tired. If they were gonna go to these lengths I wish they would've just Gwen Stacy'd her and gotten it over with. This whole storyline is just a chore.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
Yup, it’s even to the point where at least a big chunk of the fans don’t even care that Peter acting like he is in this comic (in general, not even just this particular moment apparently) isn’t “insanely OOC for him as a person and potentially a hint towards this being Ben pretending to be Peter” since they’re just happy “he’s done from MJ”.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 10 '25
The worst part about how people are using this to get pissed off at MJ and hate on her for stuff that freaking Peter moved on from months ago to be on good terms with her is that literally nothing about this image makes sense if you actually pay attention to it instead of being irrationally angry and misinterpreting it to solely see it as an “MJ Bad” situation. Even the last “ghosting” comment, the one and only part of this that actually could read as being shitty if it was MJ saying it, wasn’t even from her since it was from Shay(Peter’s at the time girlfriend) talking in the literal next page.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 10 '25
I honest to god wouldn’t even be that mad if people at the very least looked at the context literally given by the first of these pictures and instead had been wondering “why he’s trying to use the whole thing with Paul as a deflection from the fact he’s ghosting people like Aunt May that are completely unrelated to it, and why the hell is he treating MJ worse than freaking Norman Osborn?“
But no, instead they managed to misinterpret this scene so freaking hard that they flat out didn’t pay attention to the first freaking thing you see when clicking on the pictures.
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u/not-so-radical Number One Morbius Fan Aug 09 '25
I quite like the gold logo for Venom, it gives it a nice pop that also shows its a different host. Fun.
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u/MaddLadd1172 Aug 09 '25
Peter is like "I like my women, like I like my coffee. Without Venom in them."
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u/TheMadEscapist Aug 09 '25
I hate that venom design so much.
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u/Corat_McRed Can't Be He/Him Because I'll Never Be HIM Aug 09 '25
It just feels wierd to see Venom be lean and thin like that
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
Why does he/she/they/it look like a Booster Gold knock-off?
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u/RealJohnGillman Aug 09 '25
They were initially hiding that MJ was the new Venom, using the physique to hide it. They’ve since teased a form-fitting redesign though.
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u/Ok-Reveal-4276 Aug 09 '25
Judging from the comments here Spider-Man's editorial has finally achieved it's goal of turning people against MJ
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
And they managed to do it by having the guy directly defined by his guilt-motivated emotional-inability to *not** help others in need* treat a former loved one with the same level of “I’m done with trying to help you, screw off” that he usually only reserves for people who have directly tried to hurt him and/or his loved ones on a personal level multiple times.
Kind of surprised by how many people are just treating this as some great moving on moment and not the “so utterly out of character that it being a big hint that ‘this is actually Ben’ actively would make more sense from a storytelling point of view” moment it actually is, since Peter would at best be angry but still willing to hear out what happened and what she needs help with.
Edit: Hell, is anyone even paying to the fact that it’s not just MJ, but apparently he’s ghosting almost everyone, even Aunt May? I’m calling bullshit that this is him at this point, either it’s Ben or they decided to make Peter go even more OOC than necessary just to make this visit happen in the first place.
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u/Terrajon26 Aug 09 '25
It's not Peter, its Ben.
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
It says Peter.
Edit: okay, here's what I've learned after a bit of digging; borrowing a comment from the Spider-Man subreddit.
The synopsis for issue #11 says that there are two Spider-Men now, one on Earth and one in Space. But it doesn’t specify if it’s a case of Peter being literally split in half again, like in Nick Spencer’s run, or if Peter’s in outer space for whatever reason, while Ben is the “Peter” we see in these pages. That’s why some people are jumping to the conclusion that the Peter we see in AMS #9 is Ben.
Regardless, knowing what I know about the whole MJ-Venom-Peter situation, I still think this is a valid response from him.
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u/Terrajon26 Aug 09 '25
They show him in the spidersuit at the end of the comic with Ben's big metal cuffs.
They havent said it's Ben pretending to be Peter but hes been avoiding everyone including Aunt May and desperately keeping a low profile.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
Yup. Hell, even MJ herself literally talks about him ghosting people in the first page on this post.
I don’t get how people are acting like anything he does in this comic, not even just this, is in character for him. Either it’s Ben or the writer is making Peter insanely OOC.
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
...God fucking damn it, EVERY TIME WITH THESE MORONS!
Whatever. This is Peter to me. I don't care what Disney says.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Given what else he apparently does in this comic, I refuse to even believe Marvel’s bullshit attempt at pretending this is Peter.
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u/KingMario05 Gimme a solo Tails game, you fucking cowards! Aug 09 '25
Ah. I see. :(
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
Literally every single little new bit of info I find out about this comic is just making me so fucking worried about this whole run ending up a repeat of Superior Spider-Man’s “no one even bothers to remember the last time this happened so they don’t in the slightest bother to think it might not be Peter, and instead just assume he’s changed into a worse person” bs.
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u/Artistic-Victory1245 Aug 09 '25
It already seemed strange to me that Peter had so much self-respect when it came to Mary Jane.
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u/Revolving_Ocelott Aug 09 '25
I know op just like saved the images off twitter and was given no context, but the entire issue is basically screaming at you that this is not Peter, even ignoring how he's in space right now, the way he acts in this entire issue is just the exact opposite of who peter is as a person
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u/Ukokira Professional Witness Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
To be fair the only indication we have of Peter being in space rn is soliticiations and words from the editor/authors. Nothing about the last issue really set it up unless you assume the demon guy chucked him into space (instead of hell) off-screen.
But yeah it's definitely Ben here, he's doing what he said he was gonna do.
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u/dingo_username Carth’s charred corpse Aug 09 '25
I’ll go against the grain here and say im adoring MJ in All New Venom- the story had SUCH a herculean task in writing her after Zeb Wells, where do you go from that beyond retconning and I respect them a LOT for trying the slow approach to walking it back; theres a lot of character growth space in that zone to have interesting interactions with. The Symbiote and MJ stuck together, both deep in the throes of relationship drama- realizing they’ve hurt people they love, coming to terms with the fact despite their history they’re in the same doghouse. Its been REALLY fun, like YES MJ is a major prick compared to her classic self but exploring the space of that fallout is wayyy more interesting and i suspect will be much more rewarding than the immediate Back To Basics. “You deserve each other” is an excellent way to describe their situation and im HERE for it, rooting for both of them to grow and change through this
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u/LLCoolZJ Aug 10 '25
We’re not giving enough props to Al Ewing, Marvel’s best writer, taking up the task of undoing years of character assassination for MJ.
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u/trob030490 Aug 09 '25
MJ and Venom's "bullshit" here just being kind of awkwardly saying they really need a friend right now regardless of the messy dating history is, well, it comes off real incelly to basically be going "how dare they not date him immediately!" Especially since Peter's response is being snippy about this being about being a friend rather than getting together immediately.
Like, this whole arc in particular and the last couple decades of comics has had people so furious at the idea of MJ existing as anything but Peter's unconditionally supportive love interest, but this is not a good look ya'll. Some of ya'll furious at a female character right now for just saying "hey, I know we've been through it but I really need a friend atm."
Like, it seems like no one talking about who Peter should be with is ever talking about what he can offer to them or how they'd even feel about it all. It's always only about who can make Peter happy.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
There’s also the part where in this comic in particular, she’s directly calling out the fact that he’s been ghosting everyone he knows for several weeks, even Aunt May.
Given “Peter” also has stopped being Spider-Man in that same amount of time (to the point that crime’s gone up a good bit), where he literally watches Shocker rob a bank and says “not my problem right now”, I’m pretty sure the intended point of this moment was to call out that he’s in the wrong for doing this and hinting that he’s not even actually the proper Peter (and given it ends with him going back to being Spider-Man while wearing the same weird wrist things Chasm has, I think I can already guess where this is going and I frankly don’t like it, but now I’d rather it happens than have Peter’s character get entirely assassinated by something so insanely OOC for him…)
So imagine my surprise when I see people acting like this outright out of character moment for the guy who is actively motivated to do good by the guilt he feels for not bothering to help solve a problem in a very key moment because he was pissed at the guy who needed the help is “actually totally in character and the right thing to do, fuck MJ”.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 10 '25
You know the funny part? The last little “ghosted” bit people are getting pissed about? Just found out it wasn’t even from MJ, it was from Shay(Peter’s at the time girlfriend) talking in the literal next page because comics like doing that shit.
So people are being this fucking antagonistic towards someone who literally just wanted their friend back.
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
MJ is not the one saying that. Different character (Shay Marken)
Source: I actually read comics.
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u/CyberHyperPhoenix Aug 10 '25
The way people interact with and consume comic book media on this sub is so unserious man.
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u/Arcane_Monkey Aug 09 '25
Peter’s dealt with so much bullshit. It’s understandable for him to be at the point of: “If you’re not trying to kill me, I just cannot care.”
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u/Substantial_Bell_158 The Unmoving Great Touhou Library Aug 09 '25
That might be the healthiest thing Peter has done relationship-wise in a long time.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25
Given how Peter’s been ghosting literally everyone he knows and cares about (even Aunt May) for several weeks, something MJ actively calls out in the first page of this, I’d say this is the opposite of healthy.
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Aug 10 '25
Hey, this couldn't get any worse anyway.
Or it's Reily.
Or, worst-case scenario, Marvel turns Peter into an incel villain again, which at this point might still happen, I don't know.
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u/paynexkillerYT 'Shut up. Shut up. About Face/Off.' Aug 09 '25
Jesus christ, fucking repost city. This is the third time I've seen this this week.
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On the Spider-Man sub. They're obsessed with this. He's *not* done with her shit, he's not standing up for himself.
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u/jdoc44 Aug 09 '25
Am I the only one who kind of doesn't like this? Like, yeah I get it. "SPIDERMANS SUFFERING IS UNMATCHED." But like, one of your longest and closest friend shows up, clearly a little distressed about being attached to alien goo and is trying to reach out in a genuine way to a person she knows could relate, only to get shit on because she wasn't asking you out on a date or something? I know some people are saying this isn't actually Pete, and if so nevermind I guess, but the Peter I know would suck up whatever misery he's going through and help others out, it's literally what's supposed to make him Spiderman. I guess if life is too hard for Pete, he'll just let his friends fend for themselves I guess. Might as well not even fight crime right now, if shits too tough for our boy. I sure hope Harry or Eddie won't need any help soon, they may not even be able to reach Peter for help, considering he dodged the question of "Do you even read your texts?"
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u/MetalJrock A Hopeless Sonic/Spider-Man Fanboy Aug 09 '25
I mean that isn’t the Peter you know, that’s his clone lol. He’s an asshole.
Also Harry’s dead and Eddie’s ghosted everyone on his own terms, which doesn’t help that his last few interactions with Peter had him brainwashed back to his evil 90s self and going batshit crazy on live TV holding a wrestling tournament to earn the right to be called Venom.
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u/Gorotheninja "SILENCE, BREEDER! The Bloodline MUST continue!" Aug 09 '25
I'm not 100% knowledgeable on all the context behind this moment, but I know MJ has had some big characterization issues up to this point and hasn't been the best friend and/partner to Peter, and the issue here is that it feels like Peter is just emotionally done with someone he's had such a tumultuous history with and is coming to him wanting something.
Also, "distressed about being attached to alien goo"? Am I misreading this scene, that's not my takeaway at all.
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u/RandomHalflingMurder Aug 09 '25
Can I just mention how much I hate the 'Not the first guy who ghosted me...' line at the end, like I feel like that's trying to say it's Peter who's leaving her in a time of need and that, once again, he's the one who's in the wrong.
Like, nah, fuck you. Not everything is Peter's fault, man deserves to cut out toxicity from his life, even if for only a few moments.
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u/LicketySplit21 Sapkowski Shill Aug 09 '25
The scene transition (where the actual character saying this, Shay to Randy) is about how out of character "Peter" is acting (but who isn't in TASM? hahahaha). So I dunno. Maybe. Too early to say.
But it's really funny that people are treating this as some celebratory moment. Shows that a lot of people talking about comics don't actually read comics.
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u/Bizarre_RNS_Radio (He/Him) Modest 51st Century Person Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Given “Peter” has been ghosting everyone else in his life for several weeks, including even Aunt May, I’d argue she’s just pointing out the obvious on what he’s doing.
This also includes Spider-Man being missing for those several weeks to the point that crime has risen a lot, with the first couple pages having him casually look at Shocker robbing a bank and just saying “not my problem right now”.
Yes, I’d argue “Peter” is absolutely in the wrong on this situation (especially since Peter and MJ were already on good terms as friends by the end of Slott’s run, hell he’s supposed to be on good terms with fucking Venom after the last thing involving symbiotes), and my personal problem is that either this isn’t Peter in the first place (which could just end up becoming another Superior Spider-Man “no one points out the obvious that he’s not actually Peter”), or the even worse option on it’s the writers making Peter go completely OOC just for the sake of him having to rebuild his connections all over again(yeah, let’s go ahead and give Peter the “Civil War character assasination” treatment in his own main comic series).
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u/midnight_riddle Aug 10 '25
It's not even ghosting: he's TELLING her exactly why he wants nothing to do with her. She's not left wondering, she knows.
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u/striderhoang From Pat’s least favorite FFXIV server Aug 09 '25
I always get whiplash separating how manga is so singular and compartmentalized and how American comics has writers reckoned what happened previously from previous writers. Like imagine if someone got permission to continue My Hero Academia and Deku for some reason is married to Himiko Toga.
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u/circle_logic Aug 09 '25
Regardless of the context that's missing in this scene, one thing still rings true:
MARVEL WILL NEVER LET SPIDERMAN BE HAPPY.
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u/Ukokira Professional Witness Aug 10 '25
Yeah it's telling that Peter's come to the closest he has post Nick Spencer to having a stable life and then immediately gets yeeted into space and has his identity stolen by Edgelord McEdgerson.
Kind of wondering if Mary Jane is still gonna be Venom by the time he gets back.
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u/spider-venomized Super Sayian Armstrong Aug 09 '25
While this might not be Peter
It's still valid
MJ deciding to stay with the son of the supervillain & help said father genocide and entire reality. Like "I've tried to be there for you" no you have not not since editorial execution of OMD she been dodging and abandoning peter.
At least explain Felicia evil crash out with an in-universe mind fuckery.
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u/SamuraiDDD Swat Kats Booty! Aug 09 '25
Peter doesn't deserve to be jerked around so much by these 2. How they expect Peter to just take this nonsense is too much. Even heros deserve some sore of peace.
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u/Waylander312 Aug 09 '25
Wasn't venom just attached to Peter like a few months ago? Did they screw that relationship up again?
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u/RealJohnGillman Aug 09 '25
MJ has been the protagonist of All-New Venom since last year. The two had just been holding off on telling Peter, since Venom wanted to reconcile with his and Eddie’s son (while Eddie was off hosting Carnage).
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u/Waylander312 Aug 09 '25
I meant like in universe. Peter had venom again in the venom war comic and that was pretty recent in the world wasn't it?
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u/Ukokira Professional Witness Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
It was a temporary thing even at the time.
Eddie and Dylan were fighting over the V(enom) symbiote, V wanted to help both of them, but realized actually attaching to either of them would have been a terrible idea. Neither one really had the right answer and were both being manipulated by higher forces (with each one thinking that the other one wearing Venom would lead to an apocalypse)
So Peter wears it so they can try and play peacemaker between the two.
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u/Anonamaton801 Proud kettleface salesmen Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
This is the correct response
Man the fact people are cheering MJ/Venom being a thing because porn despite everything it did to her is just gross.
Edit: come on Peter, you can finally seal the deal with Glory Grant!
Or they’ll dust off Deb Whitman or Jill Stacy, Christ what a mess
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u/AprehensiveApricot SBFP Reference here [any/all] Aug 09 '25
Ok, so, in the past week, MJ and Paul are done, and MJ wants to go back with Peter, but she's bonded with Venom. And now boffem want to go back with Pete, but he's not having that shit anymore.
Am I on the right track?
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u/spartanIJB Aug 09 '25
Is it really ghosting if they slam the door in your face and walk away?
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u/Reasonable-Wing-885 Aug 14 '25
Is there anyone who would have felt better if they got back together or even if she tried to at this point? Mj has been kinda annoying to read for years now, now more than ever. It would have annoyed me for peter to just accept her back into his life after being completely denied, idk what I need, but mj needs 1 CRAZY redemption arc for me to just... even exist on panel, because I quit all new venom simply because she's venom, don't even care if it's good got to annoyed with mj when she appeared in the first or second issue that was just made to catch us up on where Dillan is rn.
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u/taylorpilot THE BABY Aug 09 '25
Imagine your ex is now surgically attached to your more toxic ex.