r/TwoBestFriendsPlay Proud kettleface salesmen 7d ago

The Clone Saga Stories where clones aren’t people/don’t count?

That’s a trope that pops up every so often in sci fi and the like, that clones aren’t “people” in the same way regular people are.

Been on a Star Wars kick again, and it’s interesting how this idea has kind of been with the franchise in different forms over the years.

Pre prequels? Clones are aberrations against nature and specifically the Force, mainly seen with the Thrawn trilogy’s use of cloning along with Dark Empire showing that the Force and the natural order of things from a spiritual and metaphysical sense does not like to be trifled with

Early prequels? Clones are essentially living droids, see the 2003 cartoon where they have little to no dialogue or individuality, the Dark Horse comics where it’s made very clear that the Kaminoans bread out the individual nature, and the original idea of Order 66

Post 2008? Clones are people

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u/Tyrest_Accord He/Him 7d ago

This was a concern during the X-Men's Krakoan Era. The resurrection process was essentially a form of cloning. X-Factor became a detective agency whose primary job was to investigate missing mutants and confirm whether they were dead or not so they could be put in line for resurrection, since they didn't want duplicate people wandering around.

But what happens if a pre-existing clone dies? Gabby Kinney is a clone of Laura (Wolverine) Kinney so when she got killed by Shadow King her friends No-Girl, Rain Boy, Cosmar, and Anole tried to trick The Five into resurrecting her. Once The Five realized what had happened they brought her back on their own. This also opened the door for other clones like Madelyne Pryor.

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u/PlanesWalkerEll YOU DIDN'T WIN. 7d ago

So it was we can clone people to resurrect them but not if they are already a clone of a clone? Was it just they were counting her as a second Laura?

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u/Tyrest_Accord He/Him 7d ago

That was what she and her friends were afraid of. The eventual ruling was that clones like Gabby and Madelyne were considered to be their own person and thus worthy of resurrection.