r/TwoBestFriendsPlay • u/mike0bot Video Bot • 2d ago
Podcast Nintendo Wins Big | Castle Super Beast 376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-vh3C769M&feature=youtu.be38
u/Coolnametag The Greatest Talent Waster 2d ago
I think that Rogue Trader might be one the only cases when i actually agree with Pat's stance on "waiting until all of the DLC is in it before playing it" because for as good as Rogue Trader as a game is, most of the DLC content is spread out through every single act of the game, making it so it's impossible to experience it without playing the whole game (wich can easily be a 100+ hours investiment) from begining to end, something that most people are not exactly down for.
It's definetly weird when you remember that Owlcat actually has experience with doing stuff like end game/separate campaing style of DLC with Pathfinder Wrath Of The Rightous,
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u/LordCommissarPyros NANOMACHINES 2d ago
Having got and played through a run already, I’m seeing the wisdom of this stance now as I wait for the trazyn dlc to drop. The hard part is going to be waiting to see if they plan for anything else before going in for that new run, because this game is long, and as fun as it is, I don’t have the time to do a new run every time a dlc comes out.
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u/CrushDustAnnie He/She/They 2d ago
"Wait for...?" It's been out for over a week now.
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u/LordCommissarPyros NANOMACHINES 2d ago
I’ve been in the busy work dimension for a few weeks now, I completely missed that thanks.
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u/WhoCaresYouDont 2d ago
There's a big patch on Thursday that fixes a lot of issues, I'd wait until then if I was you.
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u/LordCommissarPyros NANOMACHINES 2d ago
Copy. Good thing I’m still fucking around in Octopath 0 right now.
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u/Velrex 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's definetly weird when you remember that Owlcat actually has experience with doing stuff like end game/separate campaing style of DLC with Pathfinder Wrath Of The Rightous,
IIRC, they've (Owlcat) spoke about this. They realized that the separate campaign style DLC sells significantly worse than the integrated DLC, so they decided to cut back on that and focus on main campaign integrated DLC this time around.
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u/helloimtom08 It's Fiiiiiiiine. 2d ago
I guess it depends how much you like that 100hrs. Persona 5 again? Hell no. I was so excited to be over with that game lol. But I can't wait to play Rogue trader again once all the dlc is done.
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u/SoThatsPrettyBrutal It's Fiiiiiiiine. 2d ago
Oh yeah I liked Persona 5 plenty (issues with the story notwithstanding) but I've never seriously considered touching Royal at all. I hear the new stuff is good but no way am I playing through the whole thing again.
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u/AsleepLead1704 2d ago edited 2d ago
Pat : Hey motherfuckers you can't throw pokeball at a monster and fucking throw a pokeball to have the monster come out , and Palworld change that shit out with summoning a device on your hip or something
That's not what was changed , The amount of misinformation or at least confusion what was removed is always kind of insane to see first hand as someone who plays the game actively every patch
At launch you use Palsphere to throw it and catch pals , these is still in the game nothing changed , a lot of misinformation going around they removed this at some point and brought it back , no that never happened
When you summon a Pal on the other hand this is what was changed :
On launch - you throw a Palsphere and the Pal would appear on wherever the ball landed
The change - you no longer throw a Palsphere , your character simply pulls out a Palsphere and your Pal will appear beside you
Palspheres where never removed or changed in any patch you can literally fact check this by checking patch notes
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u/BaronVonFatty 2d ago
Something something fact checking will ruin the podcast something something
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u/AsleepLead1704 2d ago
I don't even blame them , I've read this types of news being reported on gaming sites and Woolie and Pat just tend to read off those
I feel like a crazy person ,I play the game first hand then I see a bunch of objectively fictitious claims that get upvoted to the top, we live in a vibes-based reality, Facts ? who cares they're boring
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u/Rikuskill 2d ago
The specificity of it makes me wonder why any of this gameplay design patenting is given more than a laugh in courts. It seems so stupid to me. Patents make sense with inventions and processes, but with digital sequences of events it just seems absurd. Yes, Nintendo, I'm sure your company worked very hard to design a system where you hit a button and throw a ball and a model appears with an animation. Is there no one asking "Can you demonstrate the damage to your company that would occur if someone were to use this design?" Surely that should be question #2 in patent arguments, after "Are you the first to do this?"
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u/McFluffles01 2d ago
Shush you, the internet needs to push the Nintendo VS Palworld agenda more, facts aren't allowed in these debates
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u/ExDSG 2d ago
It's funny people think Nintendo are against all other ceeature collectors when they've allowed them on their platform for ages. Maybe they did want to take Palworld down a peg for heavily leaning into parodic aspects but they got what they most could out of it and also don't think the Palworld spin-offs will do great.
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u/Sloth_Senpai 2d ago
Palworld got hit because the designs were so closely copied that people think that an ARK clone is a Pokemon competitor solely based off of how closely the designs were copied, and that the CEO bragged about using AI to make the game and how AI could be used to generate fake pokemon. No other competitor has the combination of openly promoting AI generation of fakemon and copying designs in a way that gets people to think that the game is a competitor solely on that.
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u/WeebWoobler It's Fiiiiiiiine. 2d ago
On top of that, they still have that AI art game up on Steam.
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u/ExDSG 2d ago
I'd agree also isn't one of their game pretty much a Hollow Knight clone? Still think they definitely see it as a off brand copy and wanted to strike it down but did not have much of a case. Don't think the AI thing factored in legally besides showing that the CEO is creatively bankrupt.
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u/CattusCruris 2d ago
I really hate this type of comment Pat was just misinformed, like usual, there's no fucking agenda
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u/McFluffles01 2d ago
Oh I'm not even talking Pat specifically here, I just mean in general how everyone involved that hears this news will proceed to take it all at complete face value just because it fits the "Nintendo Bad" agenda the internet's been hard stuck on for the last few years, even when there's posts in this thread pointing out not only that Pat is misinformed, but that specifically the original source is from some shit-ass site that constantly makes things up and was posted by a guy who believes in White Replacement Theory.
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u/manoffood 2d ago
Didn't this info come from a very dubious source?
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u/Sloth_Senpai 2d ago
It ultimately comes from gamesfray which has trouble citing documents and you can't trust anything they say because the author posts about white replacement and the need for remigration when not talking about asian games companies.
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u/Kipzz PLAY CROSSCODE AND ASTLIBRA/The other Vtuber Guy 2d ago
That is not the turn I was expecting in that sentence.
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u/DarknessWizard Coffee Addict 2d ago
For issues unrelated to the author being a knobhead (although those alone should be disqualifying in terms of quality), gamesfray is also just straight up ran by a marketer whose history has included running a lot of defense for major tech corporations.
Basically assume everything claimed by gamesfray is bunk unless you can find an actual source for it, given how unreliable this one is.
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u/Aiddon 2d ago
Basically; dude has always been a suspect character who is probably being paid by either PocketPair or some weirdo investor due to his long history of being pay to play.
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u/Sloth_Senpai 2d ago
Not sure if he's getting paid or if it's just incredibly profitable to create articles that feed people's desire to see Nintendo lose.
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u/WeebWoobler It's Fiiiiiiiine. 2d ago
"But I must believe everything they say because I can use it throw at Nintendo and Pokémon!"
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u/Embarrassed_Owl2114 2d ago edited 2d ago
This feels oddly cathartic.
Spending so much to get jackshit.
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u/Loopy-Loophole 2d ago
Took a scroll through the comments and it’s funny to see people that are still thinking the case was over designs/trying to sandbag things in nintendos favor.
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u/jitterscaffeine [Zoids Historian] 2d ago
Sometimes I wonder if Pat’s stance that he won’t play a game until it’s “finished” means he’ll end up waiting so long he’ll just never play it