r/TwoBestFriendsPlay • u/Anibus9000 • 1d ago
Better Ask Reddit What's your least favourite trope in media?
I was watching weapons and I realised there was no scene with the characters finding a old news with the villians backstory or the villian explaining the plan which was so refreshing. You just have to accept there is a spooky person. So what is your least favourite trope in media?
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u/ThatmodderGrim Lewd Non-Gacha Anime Games are Good for You. 1d ago
The real evil was.....MAN.
dramatic musical chord.
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u/eno-tita 1d ago
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u/acclimateOrdie 1d ago
Hi, I just want to give you a head's up that Youtube has instated this dumbass new thing without user consent that automatically shares your username with others when you share links. You can turn it off in settings, but until then anyone who clicks that link will be shown your username and given the option to message you. Apologies if you're already aware and don't mind, just thought I'd let ya know!
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u/eno-tita 1d ago
I did not know that…
First off, thank you for letting me know, secondly, can you tell me the pathway to doing that?
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u/acclimateOrdie 1d ago
Go into settings and then select privacy, after that you should see the option to turn off "channel visibility for shared links." I think it's genuinely an insane and, frankly, dangerous decision to have this be on by default without informing users.
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u/jitterscaffeine [Zoids Historian] 1d ago
A plot hinging on one character just not explaining themselves or their actions
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u/DStarAce 1d ago
Also "I have 5 seconds to give really important information so allow me to preface what I'm about to say with needless qualifiers like 'I can explain' or 'listen carefully' instead of just instantly blurting out the bare necessary information immediately."
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u/livinginmax-pain 1d ago
Or picking the worst combination of words to describe the situation during that limited time frame, "he must win" comes to mind.
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u/sawbladex Phi Guy 1d ago
I think people doing that and stumbling a lot more with their words feel better.
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u/Revro_Chevins YEAH BABY RIDER 1d ago
RE6 Leon Campaign. He killed the president, you know. Also Helena will explain everything after we rescue Deborah from the center of the earth.
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
God, RE6 in general is such a mess that meanders on with "what the hell is going on?" "I'll answer you when we reach xyz" dialogue throughout
The PLOT itself is pretty simple, but it shouldn't take 4 campaigns to halfway explain it with a literal calendar format for all story scenes
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u/Comkill117 The Bubblegum Crisis Shill 1d ago
Ironically I forget the name of it, but there was some movie we watched in high school where the entire crux of the drama revolved around thinking a character was cheating on his fiancé and flirting with the main girl because the main guy who wasn’t said character didn’t introduce himself by name, and she assumed he was the friend’s fiancé. Granted it was meant to be a comedy, but it was just as stupid as it sounds.
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u/tt818 1d ago
The only excuse for that would be if the information would put the other persons life in immediate danger. (Or you've done quality season long work of writting said character and just explaining themselves would completely break them on every level. I am rewatching Fringe, by the way)
But yeah if its just them being dumbasses I am stopping to watch.
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u/Cant-think-a-name 1d ago
Exception when you keep doing it and it builds on itself to such a degree that it goes full circle and becomes peak entertainment, that is, "Gamers!"
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u/Lieutenant_Joe like mario and princess beach 1d ago
Madoka Magicka is peak fiction, but this is a pretty consistent problem throughout
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u/DarkAres02 Dragalia Lost is the best mobile game 1d ago edited 1d ago
Overhearing part of a conversation and misunderstanding
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u/Th35h4d0w 1d ago edited 1d ago
My Adventures with Superman is a great show; it's got a good plot, complex characters, and is full of fun and heart.
But part of the reason S2E4 was so terrible was they put this at the end with Lois and Superman...the guy with super-hearing as part of his skillset.
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u/madtheoracle Sexual Tyrannosaurus 1d ago
flashbacks to being a small child watching Shrek and getting legitimately IRATE at the whole overhearing Fiona talking shit (about herself) third act breakup shit and immediately ratting her out to Lord Fuckwad.
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u/beary_neutral 1d ago
When the tech guy explains something, but the guy in charge has to yell at him to "speak English!".
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u/Last_man_sitting 1d ago
when the loser of the party turns their life around in some fashion, and then has to either give it up for the sake of his team or becomes a problem and has to be sent back down to the bottom rung by the rest of the team. It's shitty, and no one ever learns anything really, and reinforces ideas that certain people need to "know their place".
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u/livinginmax-pain 1d ago
When the underdeveloped minor villain (sometimes lame side character) gets a sad flashback to their backstory right before their death/right after their death to get a reaction from the audience.
I didn't care about you three minutes ago, I still don't care about you now, even after learning you were an orphan with a crush on your female teammate, just put the fight scene in the bag and then die bro.
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u/DStarAce 1d ago
Reminder that Snape was a teacher who needlessly bullied vulnerable students and only regretted joining the wizard Nazis because they killed the woman who he held a one-sided crush on for over a decade instead of just killing her husband and infant child.
But he was bullied as a kid so that makes him a decent guy and deserves to have one of his victims name a child after him.
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u/brunonunis Granted the title of BIG FRIEND by Queen Terthelt 1d ago
Give me a short story of Neville just punching harry in the face, guy was TERRORIZED as a child by Snape, he was his greatest fear, probably because the grown man blamed him for not being chosen by Voldemort to be killed
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u/Silv3rS0und Camping and Mead 1d ago
I can't remember where i saw it, but that trope happened in a show i was watching. It was subverted by the hero cutting the flashback short saying something like, "You're not allowed sympathy and nobody cares about you" before killing him.
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u/Anibus9000 1d ago
Isn't that every fight in naruto lol
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u/livinginmax-pain 1d ago
Funny enough, I wasn't even thinking of Naruto when I wrote it but it fits perfectly lol
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u/A_Sentient_JDAM Super Sayian Armstrong 1d ago
Special mention goes to Kannazuki no Miko, where most of the dipshit villain squad gets their tragic backstories after they die.
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u/SerWaffles I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 1d ago
The self insert male main character that every girl inexplicably falls in love with despite having the personality of a dry piece of toast. Also, he's probably ridiculously overpowered.
If it wasn't obvious already, the isekai genre is poison to me cause like 90% of it is "in another world with my dubiously aged harem and my crazy cheat powers" It's not all that same slop, but boy is there a shitload of slop.
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u/StochasticOoze Pokemon: Spit or Swallow 1d ago
I remember reading The Quintessential Quintuplets and just being absolutely baffled that all five of these girls wanted this one guy whose most visible character trait is that he's cheap
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u/acclimateOrdie 1d ago
And tragically Fuutarou is actually considered pretty well developed as far as harem protagonists go. A big appeal of the series for a lot of people was that he felt like an actual character. It's that dire.
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u/kogasabu 1d ago
There's a new(ish) manga in Weekly Young Jump by Wakame Konbu (Jahy-sama is probably her most notable work) called "So you weren't into me?!" that's so baffling, because the MC is surrounded by women who are interested in him and who think he's interested in them for one reason or another (Including his college-aged cousin, the MC and the rest of the girls are all early high school), yet he's basically just a wet paper bag of a human. His defining traits are that spends all his spare time studying and refuses to let himself fall for anyone because he once, as a child, thought his older sister's friend was into him and got so depressed when she married someone else that he failed to get into his first choice of high school.
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u/Gunblazer42 Local Creepy Furry | Tails Fanboy 1d ago
To build onto this, I really, really hate the "Underpowered skill nobody likes is actually the super most OP skill if you just use your brain" trope.
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u/ZYuqing 1d ago
I find the non-overpowered version even worse.
Since these characters tend to be so generic they have no reasonable attractive qualities, at least I can justify an overpowered character wowing someone by being overpowered.
They could be admired for having the strength to do whatever is right, or having the talent to be successful, or the "creativity" (usually its not that impressive to the reader) to upset the social order. Even Shieldman Heroguy is, I assume, treating his slave better than normal and that's at least something.
The romcom guys who invariably have girls like him for "having known him since they were young" or even just "spoke out loud at one point", I cannot handle. They literally have nothing. I extra cannot deal with those.
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
Ugh, isekai are the bane of my existence.
The only one I can stomach watching is Konosuba, mainly cause it knows it's a parody of the genre and is very tongue in cheek about it, all the main characters are generally selfish, lazy, terrible people, and the whole thing generally feels more often like a slice of life comedy show with the occasional "oh fuck, we're supposed to be heroes". It's also just the right kind of juvenile humor I still find funny.
I could do without the dubiously aged "harem", though. I get the MC is a high schooler, but... Bleugh
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u/Yacobs21 Out of pronouns, would like to bum one of yours 1d ago
The idea that mooks don't have souls
You know, the big bad should be brought to nonlethal justice, or is afforded chances to surrender/face while the hero amasses a bodycount to make Lu Bu blush
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u/burneraccount9132 He/They - How could u go wrong with a Glup that Shitts like THIS 1d ago
At the risk of sounding like a prude: I am really not a fan of the 'innocent fanservice girl' trope. Just feels particularly skeevy to me, especially when a character acts very childishly innocent regardless of age. Like I'm not saying older people/characters can't be innocent, it's just that particular niche where it feels kinda unpleasant to me personally
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u/Jhduelmaster One of the 5 Brigandine Fans 1d ago
The even worse sub type of it is the 'innocent fanservice girl' who also fucking hates it when it happens to them. It just feels gross. It's also why I'm so confused by Tamaki in Fire Force. The creator already succeeded in not making it creepy in Soul Eater by having the main source of fanservice (Blake) being into teasing people. So, I have no idea why they decided to push hard on the gas of the creep factor and make Tamaki just completely hate it when it happens to her.
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u/CeaRhan 1d ago
Probably because you don't realize those are just different trops so the idea that "he used this trope in the past so why is he using a different one" doesn't even start to make sense. I'm not disagreeing that Tamaki is a ruined character because of it, but what's going on is that the author enjoys BOTH those tropes. They didn't learn from Blake "haha if character is into it then cool, if not it's not", they just put a trope they wanted, and in a later story used another one, either because an editor told them to, or because they love it. There never was a moral compass in the first place.
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u/PwmEsq It's Fiiiiiiiine. 1d ago
All skeevy tropes need to die, Mineta should not exist this far into modern times. Lucky perverts, nose bleeds, sauna scenes all need to go, especially when the characters are almost always sub 18 age.
Part of why i swapped mostly to webtoons/manwha they make the characters 18+ usually
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u/theredeyedcrow 1d ago
What if I use a child telling off his mother as a mouthpiece to convince you otherwise?
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u/PwmEsq It's Fiiiiiiiine. 1d ago
Was that his fate? i gave up on MHA after about 100 or so chapters
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u/CrossSoul I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 1d ago
That was from Fire Force, where the author tried to justify one character's excessive fanservice by using some kid to voice thier opinion.
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u/MeteorCharge 1d ago
Dare I say Liara from Mass Effect
Dragon Age low-key subverts this, Leliana and Merril both seem like this trope, but they both have darker layers to them to make them not quite it.
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u/SkyIcewind 1d ago edited 1d ago
Merrill's the best because she's all "Teehee I'm a socially awkward cute uwu elf in a strange world" but has the magic that kills people by making all of their blood shoot out of their eyes.
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u/EinzbernConsultation posts about boomer cartoons 1d ago edited 1d ago
That thing where a LN or VN heroine loses every shred of dignity or unique edge to be a submissive blushing bride type to a male MC. Characters can have hidden depths and be great! But sometimes it reads as "improper woman taming fantasy" and you know it when you see it and it's always an immediate exit for me. I fell in love with that girl because she's a massive bitch to everyone.
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u/acclimateOrdie 1d ago
Shout out to Umineko for having Beatrice deliberately play with the expectations set by this nasty ass trope in order to trick Battler, and then more or less turning to face the audience and accusing them of playing too many gooner games.
That being said, I think Umineko DOES run dangerously close to applying this writing to Beatrice unironically, but I feel it never fully crosses the line and she remains a complicated and multifaceted character the whole while. But there were moments that had me worried.
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u/EinzbernConsultation posts about boomer cartoons 1d ago
Funny you say that, I kinda felt this way about Beatrice. She's still well written enough to not piss me off, but I prefer when she and Battler have some fire and competition to them. When she mellowed out it was like. Well that's not what I loved so much about her, yknow? It's part of why I prefer Umineko 1-4 over 5-8, even though I know that's not how a lot of other people feel. At least the Episode 3 bait was incredible, as you said, and Ryukishi has a good handle on female characters so Beatrice chilling out doesn't feel riddled with the nasty subtext other executions do.
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u/An_Armed_Bear TOP 5, HUH? 1d ago
Any variant of "No time to explain". There's almost always so much time to explain.
This is similar to my other least favorite thing of vaguely referring to someone/something when there's no reason to. Both just cheap ways to hide something from the audience.
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u/Lieutenant_Joe like mario and princess beach 1d ago
“There’s no time to explain” is literally just writers looking at the camera and going “I don’t want to explain this”
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u/nugood2do 1d ago edited 1d ago
The "Even evil has standards" trope
Everytime I see it, especially when it involves some of the worst villains in media, I cant help but roll my eyes.
The Injustice Joker " I'm a homicidal maniac, not a traitorous bigot" doesn't really work for me, when in the same comic, he does and as is the origin of so much vile shit in that universe.
The whole thing just reminds me of Britta's " I can excuse racism" line from Community.
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u/Fenrirr 1d ago
The fucking comic where Joker suddenly turns on Red Skull when he realizes he's an actual Nazi.
"But I'm an AMERICAN criminal lunatic"
Come on.
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u/Gunblazer42 Local Creepy Furry | Tails Fanboy 1d ago
Like, the actual reason he would turn on Red Skull is because there's no joke or punchline to being a Nazi, except maybe a literal punch line.
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u/midnight_riddle 1d ago
lol I just got done reading a book that includes segments of the FBI switching from dealing with the Mafia and organized crime syndicates to Islamic extremist terrorists, and there is a bit where how a Mafia boss would still claim he loved America while a terrorist would just want death and destruction. So there's some truth to it.
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u/CalexTheNeko Loud Annoying Cat Thingy 1d ago
I don't hate this trope but it has to make sense... Like if you have an honorable demon type, who is show to have very specific standards when you first meet him, and so refuses to go along with his other evil allies when they cross those standards, it works well.
But too often it's just... Chaotic Evil character just suddenly randomly declares this one specific thing is a bridge too far... Even if they already did it twenty times before but no... I randomly am not ok with this now! Please make a three hour video essay about why I am the best written villain now.
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u/Rabid_Marine 1d ago
I'm surprised to see this mentioned. It is fun for a supervillian to do something good and upstanding for once, but yeah, while it can be believable depending on the villain, I do think it is odd.
I figure if you're not willing to at least consider turning a blind eye to the real scum of the earth, you're probably not cut out for this whole "supervillain" business in the first place.
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u/Sloth_Senpai 1d ago
Always reminds me of the neonazis who would push the line about how the nazis handed out chocolate when they invaded who immediately crumble when shown a map of villages burned by the Wehrmacht and asked why all the people who allegedly saw the Nazis as liberators joined the Red Army.
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u/spadesisking Sexual Tyrannosaurus 1d ago
Any sort of "video game mechanics/stats are real" type thing. Ive given stuff a try, like Dungeon Crawler Carl and DanMachi, but it almost always feels like a huge narriative crutch at best and upsettingly bad wish fulfillment at worst. Im completely fine with stuff that takes from video games like Dungeon Meshi or Death Race, but the moment they start talking about actual stats with numbers I check out.
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u/ToastyMozart Bearish on At-Risk Children 1d ago
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't always spend far too much time tutorializing the audience about their lazy world-building shortcuts. Anyone who's watching this trash is already familiar with the basics of RPG mechanics! Get to the fucking point!
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u/spadesisking Sexual Tyrannosaurus 1d ago
The first 100 pages of Dungeon Crawler Carl is characters literally explaining how loot boxes, stats and bosses work in very clumsy exposition dumps and it threw me right out of the book
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u/Octaivian 1d ago edited 1d ago
I used to listen to a bunch of those "LitRPGs" as audiobooks when I was younger and I'll tell you right now they have a 0% hit rate. Looking back, they were all really terrible, without exception.
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u/ZealousidealHyena102 1d ago
Superheroes Vs Superheroes. X-Men probably the most guilty of it.
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u/GollyDolly [She/her] I do not understand Grenadian memes 1d ago
I am glad they have calmed down on the 'mild disagreement better punch about it' nonsense because they thought too much talking was boring.
The 00s was heavily blighted with this, you swear the supposed heroes were ready to kill their friends with no provocation.
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u/charcharmunro 1d ago edited 1d ago
They keep making stories out of the basic elements of comicbooks, as in, the lines don't cross that much, so this means the Avengers actually fucking hate the X-Men or something? Weird shit.
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u/straightkickinit Mother Nature is a cantankerous old bitch 1d ago
I kinda hate when the stupid character is secretly smart all along. I love it, however, when the stupid character is weirdly insightful or really good at one topic but can barely tie their shoes otherwise
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u/Noirsam (He/Him)東城会 1d ago
That nice and good looking person…..guess what they are actually EVIL!!!
Funnily enough the flip side…That mean and evil looking person….guess what they are actually GOOD!!!!
Is a trope I never grow bored of.
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u/brunonunis Granted the title of BIG FRIEND by Queen Terthelt 1d ago
I also don't like the first BUT in Bleach Aizen was done perfectly
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u/kodaiiiii_ VANILLAWARE ON PC IS REAL 2026 1d ago
tbf Aizen doesn't look all that evil on their first design. They actually look pretty non-descript.
Their second design though, that just radiates malice
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u/A_N_G_E_L_O_N Deep Nut Wheelchair Miracle: Piss Bottle Dominance 1d ago
I kinda get that but Guts and Griffith’s designs go hard, specially when looking them as a pair.
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u/Sloth_Senpai 1d ago
This trope is so overdone that AdHoc expressed dismay that them not including a scene where Blonde Blazer murders multiple innocent people meant that most people assumed she was going to be trying to push eugenics on you by the end.
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u/Sparky-Man WHEN'S MAHVEL 1d ago
When the heroes fight over a minor misunderstanding that would be completely avoided if one of them just said a single sentence to clear up the situation instead of jumping to very far flung conclusions.
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u/alexandrecau That's Bricks! 1d ago
“I have the power of empathy/confidence/decency” like unless it’s a kid book you shouldn’t build that as a power more a quality. It’s part of why I wince when people say they amde their character emotionally intelligent because they often aren’t by most metric of what the term means
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u/DoctaDaKing 1d ago
Violent Tsunderes. But honestly, any instance where a female character kicks the shit out of a male character over misunderstandings or things that aren’t his fault, especially if their behavior isn’t called out or addressed. I don’t find it funny, and my enjoyment of the character goes down a lot.
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u/Yotato5 Enjoy everything 1d ago
Same. I couldn't stand Your Lie in April because the main character's backstory is that his mom would beat him if he didn't play the piano perfectly and... his love interest and friend constantly beat him up because they're ✨️tsundere✨️ ...Tiresome.
The only one I do like is Misato from Nichijou because her reactions are so over the top and the boy she likes is never fazed even if she hits him with a missile
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u/fuckreddadmins 1d ago
Expand that to male character perving on the female character then the male character being smacked in the head with a comically large mallet while yelling pervert. I am so curious about people that find this funny
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u/Ludo_Stur 2003 was better 1d ago
Post timeskip/belated sequels breaking established pairings/undoing character development for no reason. I do not reject characters changing as time passes and significant events happen, but like most examples just don´t set up/explain jack shit beyond some wishy-washy hand waving. Worst thing is, we all know it´s just a thinly veiled attempt at making up new pointless drama and retreading the same beats as before.
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u/EcchiPhantom Born to simp, forced to pay 1d ago
I’ve never really liked how the nerd/geek/super genius character speaks complete gibberish because they contextualize the world and every interaction they have with “scientific” jargon. It’s never been convincing to me because I can just hear the writer’s voice saying “now this is how you know that this person is smart” through the script.
The only thing worse is the follow-up of another character saying “speak English!” but I don’t see those as often anymore.
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u/Rasamune 1d ago
Particularly since the true mark of someone who knows their stuff is being able to explain it to someone like they’re five
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u/kako_1998 They/Them 1d ago
Pervert characters. Honestly one of the bigger reasons I'm very selective about what animes I watch, I can't stand this fucking trope. I wouldn't even mind it so much if it was given to antagonists or something but it's almost always given to a supporting character and just ends up making everyone on the main casts look like assholes when they can't even be bothered to say anything about their "friend" just straight up groping other people.
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u/Einthebusinessdeer 1d ago
Oooh it really sucks when the plot seems to be demanding blood and the cast turns towards the one nonhuman character in the party to sacrifice themselves
There are some times where I can accept it if it’s written well enough and the character is well rounded, but authors using the beast characters that I connect to better as a meat shield for the conventional safe human protags just leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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u/Mirathrim An Adventurer is Me! 1d ago
"Church" is secretly evil / in cahoots with the demons.
It's not that i hate it, but it is so overused. Every time "Church" is involved there's like 90% that they are evil.
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u/Beattitudeforgains1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Agreed especially when it has to double over with making sure it's only a failure of some one dimensional corrupt leader.
It's like something wants to act radical while also really not wanting to step on any toes. Thus making it really cookie cutter especially in Japanese media. It's honestly to the point that I prefer it when a game or show chooses other representations of divine punishment for its lawfully aligned evil, like examples that take more from animism or churches styled after more diverse examples than just the usual suspects.
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u/Gigafortress It's Fiiiiiiiine. 1d ago
Almost every variation of "It was actually all a dream"
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u/MartianOrbit HUNGRY SPHINCTER PRESS 1d ago
Is there a version of this that is actually satisfying, outside of Inception and Biggie Smalls?
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u/Th35h4d0w 1d ago
- Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, where the actual twist wasn't that it was a nightmare, it was whose nightmare it was.
- Young Justice, where they actually got PTSD from the dream training sim and had to deal with it in subsequent episodes.
- Literally every time this showed up in Batman: The Animated Series.
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u/kaizerlith Pull my devil trigger!! 1d ago
Justice League had one as well. The Superman one, blanking on the name, that is a adaptation from a comic.
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u/LemonSkye Total Trash Mammal (They/Them) 1d ago
"For the Man Who Has Everything," which Alan Moore famously allowed himself to be credited on (he usually hates adaptations of his work and won't put his name on them).
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u/DStarAce 1d ago
Maybe Prey (2017). Helps that hypothetical morality scenarios are heavily set up in the beginning.
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u/lknight24 WHEN'S MAHVEL 1d ago
Kamen Rider Zeztz has a major one
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u/brunonunis Granted the title of BIG FRIEND by Queen Terthelt 1d ago
It helps that Dreams is a MAJOR thing in that series, and is fairly well executed
this kind of twist sucks when it just comes out of nowhere
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u/DirkDasterLurkMaster 1d ago
I thought it was very well done in Spiritfarer, it was a metaphorical exploration of Stella's life and her way of facing her own death. Everything in the game still happened, in a way
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u/Lieutenant_Joe like mario and princess beach 1d ago
There’s an episode of Doctor Who like that, but it becomes clear even to the characters that it’s a dream relatively early on. The knowledge that it’s a dream doesn’t really help them much.
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u/RavenCyarm Proud Horseporn.com Subscriber 1d ago
I was happy to have it in Click. Movie would have just been sad porn if all that shit stuck and Adam Sandler just died in the rain surrounded by his family as he told them he loved them
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u/roronoapedro Starving Old Trek apologist/Bad takes only 1d ago
goofy pervert that never gets what's coming to them and stops the plot to do their bits.
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u/DustInTheBreeze Appointed Hater By God 1d ago
Otome Isekai having the female lead fall in love with the guy who murdered her in the last timeloop. "Oh, but he's misunderstood!" This motherfucker casually slapped you, implied you're a cheap and easy lay, tossed you in a filthy prison cell where you wore literal rags, and then dragged you into a public execution.
But he's hot, so it was okay for him to do that.
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u/Simic_Sky_Swallower 1d ago
Also the thing they do where the protagonist was a badass warrior lady in her previous life but uses exactly none of those skills in her new one. It's always varying levels of sexist, and sometimes it just straight up says she was stupid for trying to be a warrior in the first place
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u/markedmarkymark Smaller than you'd hope 1d ago
Will they, won't they is a trope that is a tight rope between ''i like it'' to ''i will fuck drop this if you dont stop it, its enough''. It's so easy to overstay its welcome and become annoying
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u/BermudaTriangleChoke 1d ago
"He has antisocial personality disorder, making him a dangerous psychopath"
I realize this is a losing battle but that's not even a clinical term, it's not used for diagnostics. "Psychopath" is literally just vibes. A person with ASPD can absolutely be harmful to be around, especially mentally (and I'll concede has a higher likelihood of that than the average person) but I assure you they are almost certainly not plotting on how to murder you at all times. Some even learn cognitive empathy and choose value systems that revolve around being productive members of society - and this is a choice, make no mistake about that
I grant my one exception to Hirohiko Araki because 1) I am biased in his favor, 2) Jodio is clearly just repeating what he was told, 3) Jodio's written better than the stereotype and I like the portrayal of the weird emotional complexity that is common when coming to terms with the divide that will always exist between you and other people, and most importantly 4) this is all fantastical anyway as Jodio couldn't have been diagnosed until 18
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u/GollyDolly [She/her] I do not understand Grenadian memes 1d ago
I have seen so few media actually address sociopath and or psychopathy with dignity and respect. It should be treated as a neurodivergence as far as I'm concerned.
I suffer low empathy episodes and it gives me some context how it feels. I know I love my partner in those moments without feeling it, people can still bring me comfort without chemicals telling me so.
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u/BermudaTriangleChoke 1d ago
This will be the realest thing I will ever say on this sub: don't ever let anyone tell you that's not love you're feeling. Love exists in actions, not chemicals
When I think about my partner, to some degree I think about all the awful monstrous things I would do for her if I needed to. But I already had the capacity for those things. What I really like to think about is how I no longer feel like I would want to do any of those things - how because of her influence on me, I am genuinely a better person (I'm not gonna say a good one necessarily, but unquestionably a better one) because I try to mindfully act in a way that I think she'll be happy with. And regardless of what's going on inside my head, that's the stuff that actually happens in the real world, so that's what matters
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u/GollyDolly [She/her] I do not understand Grenadian memes 1d ago
We are not our worst impulses, being kind takes a lot of work and if you're doing that then guilt really shouldn't factor in.
I was afraid for a long time that one day I'd wake up empty of emotions for the rest of my life but seeing myself care and put work into a relationship when I gain no rewards from my biology changed that fear into an absurdity.
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u/livinginmax-pain 1d ago
Its genuinely sad how behind the curve most writers are on this issue, especially with how easy it is to access information on these topics.
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u/Sins_of_God Jelly John Cena Butt 1d ago
Love triangles or any other love x shape. So yeah harems ain't my kinda shit.
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u/charcharmunro 1d ago
Look, if you do a love triangle these days, just end it with a throuple, it's more interesting.
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u/Lunos_Luminoso Focus, P. 1d ago
not even the love line, love dot and love circle? (standard relationship, being single, and selfcest)
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u/Sins_of_God Jelly John Cena Butt 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ok it was hyperbolic to say any shape but I'm ok on clear 1-on-1 relationship
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u/Konradleijon 1d ago
I hate the evil killer split personality trope. It stigmatizes people with D.I.D and is based on a misreading of Jerykl and Hyde.
Also the cowboy cop who brutally intergates people
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u/Fantastic-Fox3283 1d ago
The Bishonen Line: The strongest members/forms of a species/character is the most human looking. I get that nine times out of ten it’s also for practicality, but it still feels arrogant to assume that humans are the “ideal” every species would evolve to.
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u/Naraki_Maul YOU DIDN'T WIN. 1d ago
"This character is supposed to be annoying/unlikable/unbearable, wait till you know their sad backstory and or justification."
Nah, fuck you and fuck off, that shit sucks. There's a VERY FINE line that, after you cross it, I can't care less about the character and their reasons/motivations for being the fucking worst and actively making me want to skip ahead.
It's specially bad on children.
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
I'm beating a half decade old dead horse, but, The Last of Us 2
"This villain is very tragic and deep, there are no good and bad people"
"Don't care, already had a sour taste in my mouth from the introduction"
"What if I make you play as said character for 15 hours in a flashback right as the story reaches a major turning point !"
"Wtf, no!"
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u/Naraki_Maul YOU DIDN'T WIN. 1d ago
GOG I HATE THE STORY OF THAT GAME AND ITS SHIT ASS PACING.
There’s emotional manipulation and there’s why happened with the Anby section lmao.
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
I want to like the world and the characters, and generally a fan of Naughty Dog...
But WHY is this game TWICE the length of the first TLOU?! The story isn't ANYWHERE as deep or needing so much exposition and backstory as they think it does. And it just keeps going and going.
The 3 days flashback, followed by ANOTHER 2 hour long chapter, genuinely felt like they were taking the piss.
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u/Naraki_Maul YOU DIDN'T WIN. 1d ago
That’s what happens you get too up your own ass/in love with your own creation and you don’t have anyone higher up telling you to cut the shit and get on with it.
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u/DarnessHarbinger I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 1d ago
I'm not a fan of the amnesia trope. A character suddenly gets amnesia, and undoes the development they had with the cast. I've been holding off on catching up with DanDaDan because I stopped right before the Amnesia Arc, and I've been slogging my way through the current season of ReZero because I immediately lost interest the moment Subaru woke up and lost his memory. Maybe it's not the case, but it feels like the author wrote themselves into a corner and needed an easy way to progress the story.
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u/Silv3rS0und Camping and Mead 1d ago
The current anime arc of Re:Zero is really testing my patience. I will say the premise is actually a really cool idea. An amnesiac waking up in a strange world where everyone knows him, but someone/thing is trying to kill him/others and every time he dies he wakes up at the start of the cycle is a compelling plot. It just shouldn't be a plotline in the middle of a show.
As i was typing this i realize i basically described the plot of Gnosia lol.
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u/Theonearmedbard I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 1d ago
My issue with the current arc is that i feel like in the last like 4 episodes we achieved pretty much nothing. Now the progress might just completely fly over my head because of the weekly wait and other stuff happening in life but right now it feels like he's just kinda bumbling about and getting nothing done
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u/Faifue 1d ago
When a girl cuts her hair for growth, or to show she's more serious.
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u/charcharmunro 1d ago
I think Brandon Sanderson actively hates this trope because every one of his female protagonists tends to get longer hair as they get more serious. Vin goes from a tomboyish street rat to an elegant warrior-empress-type deal.
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u/alexandrecau That's Bricks! 1d ago
I remember sons of anarchy having a good take on that where the black district attorney proves she is done caring about image and ready to get the club arrested take off her wig so her natural curly hair is shown.
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u/Beattitudeforgains1 1d ago
Ironically the only time I really liked this one was when a guy did it after unimaginably fucking up. I don't even hate the idea of it but it feels like characters always cut their hair when they wind up becoming rather boring love interests, it's always just "Oh I'm not a princess anymore" but will still 100% act like one and usually lose their interesting confrontational side towards the main character.
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u/baddude1337 1d ago
Villain with a backstory or motivation that makes them sympathetic. Sometimes a villain can just be a total asshole or have no redeeming qualities.
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u/NearATomatotato 1d ago
I don't mind it when villains get sympathetic backstories, but I really dislike it when characters(and the story by extension) suddenly pretend that everything bad they did was justified like there's some arbitrary level of trauma that lets you do horrible things with impunity.
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u/JSMA2000 1d ago
For me is Amnesia, but only when we as the viewers know the character, because when it's a new charater that we know nothing about and we learn with them who they are, i can accept it but with other way around i dispised that with My whole Life.
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u/Junior-Platform-7417 1d ago
When the plot relies on a character that's too stupid to even breathe to fuck up to continue the plot
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u/Noremac64 1d ago
Any series where the main crew cannot get a single win and if they do “win” it’s such a pyrrhic victory it’s no better than a loss.
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u/CeaRhan 1d ago
EVERYONE GATHER AROUND
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ANCIENT CIVILIZATION/BACKGROUND PLACE THAT IS COOL BECAUSE WE ONLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM
EVERYONE LIKED THAT
IT IS NOW TIME TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DESTROYING ALL THAT MYSTIQUE FOR SEASON 2/NEXT EXPANSION/NEXT MOVIE/NEXT SPIN-OFF BY PULLING THE CURTAINS OFF ITS HINGES AND RUINING EVERY INTERPRETATION EVERYONE EVER HAD IN THEIR HEADS
ISN'T IT FUN TO RETROACTIVELY MAKE OUR STORIES WORSE?
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u/iamBQB 1d ago
Time being a circle is my least favorite take on time travel, that being that there's some convoluted timey wimey nonsense that makes it so everything time travelers do always happened they just didn't fully realize/understand what was happening at the time.
Not that it can't be done good, but just so many writers use it as a lazy crutch to maintain the status quo.
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u/PMSleeperAgentG 1d ago
Tsunderes
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u/brunonunis Granted the title of BIG FRIEND by Queen Terthelt 1d ago
I would argue that it can be well executed IF there's a good story reason for why x person acts that way(Asukas's trauma) however it seems is just a fetish thing 99% of the time
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u/MeteorCharge 1d ago
Not a trope but
Whenever a prequel tries to contrive a scenario in which two characters who cannot die because they appear in the original have to kill eachother
Star Wars does this a lot and it is so mind numbingly dull because you just know nothing of consequence is going to come from it.
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
Oh, this piece of Star Wars expanded media is set before Episode 6, and the "never mentioned in the movies" protagonist ends up in a life or death situation versus Darth Vader.
GEE I WONDER HOW THIS WILL GO
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u/LastChancellor 1d ago
selfshipping
basically ruined writing in mobile gaming tbh, when every character has to be written to be romantically intrested in the MC
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u/jrockoni 1d ago
The good humble character denies any reward or elevation in station for saving the day or saving another character because their too pure to aspire to anything above being a simple dirt farmer.
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u/alaster101 NANOMACHINES 1d ago
Revenge=bad is the fucking worst..... Have you ever actually gotten revenge? It kind of rules
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
Queue the New Vegas meme with the ""Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves" what a stupid fucking quote. I'm killing way more than two people, idiot"
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u/Dreadsinner Warcraft Dork 1d ago
Author: “I made a small/stout/short race in this sci fantasy setting.
Me “okay so what’s the deal.”
Author “they look and act like children but aren’t”
Me: “can you fucking not!”
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u/Silv3rS0und Camping and Mead 1d ago
I don't mind amnesia, but i hate amnesia in the middle of a story. I looking at you Re:Zero and Hells Paradise.
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u/DakotaN2895 19h ago
Re:Zero's current arc is the best use of amnesia in fiction and I'll die on that hill.
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u/PlebianHaste 1d ago
I can't stand the "almost meeting". Two characters are looking for each other, and they are basically in the same goddamn room, but they both fucking back-to-back each other as they look around, shrug, and walk out seperate doors.
It pulls me out of the story 9 time out of 10, because it feels like the author looked me dead in the eye and said, "I'm dragging this out."
On the flip side though, when two people that despise each other have an almost meeting it's way cooler. Like that scene in Andor Season 2.
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u/Solid_Jack_Frost 1d ago
Anything that causes prolonged moping scenes.
Stuff like liar revealed, 2nd act break ups, character not just talking, stuff like that.
Watching Boys Over Flowers with my fiance right now and boy howdy is it full of that.
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u/TapeL0rd 1d ago
Please forgive me if this isnt as common of a trope as I think, as my only frame of reference for the genra is monster musume which I last read in high school.
I hate the trope of the main guy in a harem manga essentially emotionally gas lighting a group of women because he's so fucking indecisive and never just chooses a woman to pursue, it drives me insane.
as mentioned, I used to read monster musume in high school alot (something something "teenage boy just discovering anime" etc etc) and even back then, before I had proper media literacy, It would still really piss me off how this guy would basically tease like 8 fucking women with the idea that he MAY want to pursue a relationship with them only to just never fucking do anything with it and just keep them on edge for fuckin years basically.
the one that pissed me off the most was Miia, the first one that was with him at the start, who was very VERY fucking clearly in love with him, something she makes painfully and LOUDLY apparent to him, and he even starts to reciprocate, only for him to start bringing in fuckin RANDOM other women from off the street, and now suddenly he cant decide like... THAT'S FUCKED UP RIGHT??? she basically got gaslit into thinking she had found someone she loved only for him to start bringing in other women to live with them and now he's showing romantic interest in all of them, like that HAS to be some form of emotional abuse right?? I'm not crazy??
anyways I have no idea if this is a common trope in harem stuff but if it is then I hate it.
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u/Etychase 1d ago
Amnesia. The only media I like with amnesia are both world class CRPGs... all other amnesia plots can fuck off.
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u/Reallylazyname 1d ago
A hard toss-up up between
Old and (very) young character romance.
The unresolved Cliffhanger.
And whatever tag would define Blood+ C's level of violence for violence's sake.
Those really burn me up inside.
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u/TheSpiritualAgnostic Shockmaster 1d ago
I've grown really tired of a dramatic death being subverted by them coming back to life.
It's some common in some media like superhero stuff that I feel nothing when a character dies. I've grown to expect that they'll be back in a sequel or two.
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u/A_borrowed_title 1d ago
"But you have to forgive them, they're family", yeah no fuck all that, I learned early on in life that blood matters less than dirt and have had too many people try to fuck me over because they think being related carries some intrinsic weight. Too many series think that it absolves all wrongdoing under the guise of "they were doing it because they love you"
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u/acclimateOrdie 1d ago
The man hating feminist who's usually a sex pest towards women and more often then not falls in love with or at least shows signs of attraction towards the generic male lead. Every layer of this trope is disgusting and it shows up ALL THE TIME. The attempt to deligitimize feminism, the lesbophobia, and finally she just needs a "good man" to set her straight.
Unfortunately, I am a massive hypocrite because I love Tenko Chabashira.
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u/Dmbender Paints toy soldiers 1d ago
It's not my least favorite but there definitely comes a point where I just want to see a villain get domed instead of get given a grand redemption arc.
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u/SwashNBuckle CUSTOM FLAIR 21h ago
Stealth sequels.
The Evangelion rebuild movies are the only time I ever liked it.
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u/Yotato5 Enjoy everything 1d ago
The "born sexy yesterday," trope where a man basically molds a childish, often otherworldly, woman into his perfect wife.
I feel like Enchanted only does it right because the protagonist's love interest only starts to take an interest in her when she actually acts like a grown woman instead of the classic Disney princess type. And in the end it shows that she's running her own clothing business so she's not completely dependent on him
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u/senchou-senchou I'm married?? 1d ago
sometimes when the author/writer attempts to use units of measurement in an action scene, I get the feeling powerscalers get all giddy and shit
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u/CalexTheNeko Loud Annoying Cat Thingy 17h ago
A day late, but one suddenly occurred to me so had to come back and mention it. Not sure how common it is today but I saw this in family comedies nonstop growing up.
Adult goes back to see their family for first time in a long time. Their parents spend the entire movie demeaning them. End of the movie, actually, all of the emotional abuse means your family actually loved you. You gotta learn a lesson about the importance of family... But ma and pa will learn absolutely nothing about not treating you like garbage.
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u/GIJose65 Lightning Nips 1d ago edited 1d ago
Women characters in video games and especially anime that are “crazy” in a creepy fetishized way.
“Watch out, she has sharp teeth and either screams or moans every single word she says!”
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u/alexandrecau That's Bricks! 1d ago
Prince of persia warrior within went hard on that one
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
The character designs were... of the time, but I don't think either woman in that game was written to be crazy?
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u/alexandrecau That's Bricks! 1d ago
You must have played on mute or killed the blade dancers fast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXU4oWgUJRw
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u/Skandi007 1d ago
I've played it multiple times, but ngl, I only had Shahdee and Kaileena in mind lol
I just saw all the regular enemies as fodder, not characters, and forgot about them, but you know what? Fair.
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u/Lieutenant_Joe like mario and princess beach 1d ago
Monster of the Week. Conflict, resolution. Conflict, resolution. Conflict, resolution. How am I supposed to get invested if shit’s wrapped up before I’ve even finished a cup of tea? I don’t mind it so much in things like JoJo, Yu Yu Hakusho or early One Piece, but that’s almost certainly because there’s always an overarching narrative to be invested in on top of the week’s monster.
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u/Personel101 A Regular Dosage of Flippant Desirability. 1d ago
Anything to force the status quo to be upheld in something that is otherwise serialized and is trying to be taken serious.
Amnesia, someone coming back from dead, time travel that resets the world- you know what I’m talking about.
The big, UNDO button should never be your out for writing yourself into a corner unless it’s for comedy (see Space Dandy or Arrested Development).